Poll: What would your mass effect 3 ending be like?

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PrinceOfShapeir

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What I had in mind was a little more...well, tragic.

Basically, they load the Crucible onto the Normandy and take it into the battle. Ships are all around them getting blasted apart, the Reapers are massacring the fleet. For every Reaper that falls, a hundred Allied ships are burning. EDI finishes her analysis of the Crucible's design and determines that the Catalyst is a still-live Reaper. In mid-battle, they're going to have to board a Reaper (Harbinger, almost certainly) and deliver the Crucible to his core. Normandy nails Harbinger with several GARDIAN shots that open a way, and then Shepard and the squad board Harbinger, Crucible in tow. They fight their way through, every step of the way one or two staying behind to secure their flanks. Finally, all that's left is Shepard and his/her love interest right before the Core. But at this point, Harbinger is trying everything he can to indoctrinate Shepard. An epic final conversation occurs where Harbinger and Shepard lock wills, Harbinger trying his best to force/convince Shepard not to deploy the Crucible. The conversation ends, one way or another, with Shepard essentially saying "Fuck you." and activating the Crucible. She then radios her crew, telling them to get the hell out of here. But they receive a message from EDI or some other tech specialist on the crew - they're detecting Harbinger trying to make a transmission, transmitting something massive, like his entire mind somewhere far, far away from here.

And this is the final choice of the game. Stay behind and detonate the Crucible before Harbinger has a chance to escape, or set a timer and run like hell. Either way, the Crucible detonates and wipes out the Reaper fleet. If you chose to stay behind, Shepard and his/her lover die together destroying the Reapers for all time. If you chose to set the timer, Shepard stands on the Normandy receiving the cheers, and it's all a happy ending, celebrations and whatnot.

No matter whether Shepard lives or dies, we see what effects Shepard's efforts made across the galaxy, whether it's at the victory celebration or at Shepard's memorial service. Shepard's friends and allies from all across the series show up to mourn/celebrate, while all throughout we see cuts to the worlds and civilizations Shepard affected.

But if you chose to set the timer, at the very end it cuts to Dark Space and an ancient hulk of a ship. It looks similar to the Reapers, but is obviously millions of years older, an ancient design perhaps. The ship comes back to life and speaks in Harbinger's voice.

"We must begin anew."

Essentially, a bittersweet ending either way - Shepard dies, but saves the universe, or Shepard lives, but the Reapers could return someday.

That's how -I- would have written the ending.

Oh, also, at some point in the ending, this would be playing.
 

dreadedcandiru99

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Really, just about anything would be an improvement, IT-related or not. All I've ever wanted was for Bioware to do what they said they'd do:

"There are many different endings. We wouldn?t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can?t say any more than that?"

"You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide some answers to these people."

"For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different based on what you would do in those situations."

"...we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don?t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we?re taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It?s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.?

...you know, something like that.
 

Thammuz

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Keep the endings that are already in, no point in removing them now, we already saw them.

Rewrite the dialogue with the starchild to have it make sense. Coherent motives, at the very least.

Add a "no, fuck you" option to refuse making the choice you're asked to make and see the battle unfold. Maximum war assets == galaxy wins. Don't care whether Shepard lives or dies.

For all endings ADD closure.

15 minutes, minimum. I want to see the battle, i want to see the forces i have spent 20 hours of my life gathering actually fight the reapers, i want to see the aftermath. I want to see If tali actually ends up having a house on Rannoch, i want to see Krogan babies, I want to see Jack become a parent, Miranda reunite with Jacob, James become a Spectre, etcetera.

We lived through hell, we fought the greatest threat the galaxy has ever faced, i want to bloody know how it turns out. In detail.
 

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Aabglov said:
The big gun everyone has been working on turns out to not work, the alliance refuses to help Shepherd so he has to go it alone. Then, as the Normandy is preparing to launch their one-ship offensive, Joker slams on breaks and Shepherd is thrown out the window where he prepares to personally fist-fight each Reaper into submission. However, he quickly discovers his fists are no use against space ships so he pulls out a guitar and ROCKS THEM TO DEATH! This part would have an optional mode to play with a rock band controller.
I'm struggling to put into words just how hard I am for that idea right now.
 

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I go first.

I would have wanted to see my war assets in action. For example thousands and thousands of rachni storming a reaper, volus bombing, elcor tanks kicking ass. Zaeed leading the blue suns eclipse and blood pack, shouting while they desperately try to kill a reaper. Geth and Quarian working together. Wrex leading hordes of krogan on the ground with Grunt. Primarch Victus giving orders to his fleet to fire.

Joker on the Normandy shooting harbinger with the thannix cannon to save Shepard after he breaks the indoctrination. And joker will die by harbinger unless we have the geth or another important war asset to attack the harbinger. Shepard will then run to the beam and if war assets are insufficient Garrus will sacrifice himself so Shepard can get through the beam. Shepard then fights through hordes of brutes and banshees to get to the citadel tower (which will mirror the first game). In the citadel tower the illusive man is waiting. He has been upgraded like Saren and still thinks that he is in control. Final boss maybe? If you didn't destroy the collector base TIM will be more powerful (upgraded by the reaper tech) and he will kill both your squadmates before he dies. Illusive man dies and Shepard goes to the control panel. Harbinger appears as a hologram presenting the final twist (dark energy maybe). Shepard tells him to fuck off and opens the arms. When the arms open Harbinger is right outside. He begins shooting his beam at Shepard while Shepard is running back the way he came trying to avoid certain death. The crucible moves towards the citadel and Hackett orders every fleet to attack Harbinger. If you have don't have enough assets Harbinger will kill Shepard. And more importantly if you saved the council in the first game they will send their fleets to attack harbinger as well. If you let them die in ME1 you will die. The crucible finally connects and the crucible sends out a beam that deactivates every reaper in the galaxy.

This is the ending I wanted to have, or at least the best happy ending:

Shepard is met by millions of cheering people. He shake andersons hand. No words can describe how much they respect each other. Garrus sees his father who says that he is proud of him. Wrex shouts "Shepard" and hugs him. Shepard embraces liara and later the rest of his friends. The other species once enemies shake hands and hug (Wrex and Victus etc.). The council are there as well. The screen cuts to black.

7 years later.

Tuchanka. The turians and the krogans are working together to rebuild the planet to its former glory. Wrex teaches his son Mordin how to hunt and how to fight with honor. He meets Grunt with his boy. Grunt explains that he has found an honorable enemy to fight. He will train his son Shepard to fight and together they will kill the mother of thresher maws.

Rannoch. The geth and Quarians are rebuilding their country. Tali is finally finished building her house. Garrus asks her why she still has her suit on since her immune system is adequate enough for rannoch. She removes her suit and we get to see her face.

We get to see Jacob and his family living on earth, Miranda and her sister together, zaeed living on omega with aria maybe, jack teaching students, ashley or kaiden commanding a fleet, james serving as an N7, joker and EDI on the normandy.

Citadel. Shepard and liara and their blue daughter stands in front of a statue of Shepard. Shepard is retired and lives with liara on earth, spending his time drinking beer on the beach with Garrus while their children play. Their daughter asks children questions and Shepard answers. Shepard's actions have been acknowledged and he finally has time to rest.

Yes maybe this ending is cheesy (maybe even ewok dancing cheesy) but it is the personal ending that I wanted. Shouldn't it at least be possible? I find it very sad that after all the shit Shepard went through he has to die (and ruin the future of everyone). He deserves acknowledgement, a reunion with his friends and some rest.
This is what most people wanted I think. Definitely what I wanted. If this had been the ending I can honestly say that Mass Effect series would have gone down as my favorite series of all time and probably my favorite science fiction series of any medium.

Instead I was left feeling nothing but rage. I voted that the ending was shit and that they should changed the entire thing. I don't care if this makes it less of art, I just want the ending to make sense. Fans shouldn't have such an epic series crushed because of the last 10 minutes. It's just wrong.
 

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I think I would be more agreeable to the current endings if they actually reflected the choices I had made throughout the games. I would also like and ending where everybody doesn't get stranded/die. It doesn't have to be a "good" ending, but it shouldn't be completely miserable/depressing.
 

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Thammuz said:
Keep the endings that are already in, no point in removing them now, we already saw them.

Rewrite the dialogue with the starchild to have it make sense. Coherent motives, at the very least.
Pretty much that. I doubt they'd bother taking out the Star Child now, so yeah, they could at least squeeze out some of the nonsense.

Thammuz said:
Add a "no, fuck you" option to refuse making the choice you're asked to make and see the battle unfold. Maximum war assets == galaxy wins. Don't care whether Shepard lives or dies.
Right, something like this [http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user=1183972&poll_id=29101].

Thammuz said:
For all endings ADD closure.

15 minutes, minimum. I want to see the battle, i want to see the forces i have spent 20 hours of my life gathering actually fight the reapers, i want to see the aftermath. I want to see If tali actually ends up having a house on Rannoch, i want to see Krogan babies, I want to see Jack become a parent, Miranda reunite with Jacob, James become a Spectre, etcetera.

We lived through hell, we fought the greatest threat the galaxy has ever faced, i want to bloody know how it turns out. In detail.
After two weeks, it still astounds me that practically everyone in the world except for Bioware's team of professional writers was able to think of this. They actually believed that "And then Shepard's friends ran away and the galaxy exploded, THE END!" would satisfy people. They accepted a paycheck in exchange for this ending.

...my head hurts.
 

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An ending with more cinematics of your War Assets actually doing something and less pseudo mystcal space magic bullshit.

I'd be fine with the current endings if they were actually acknowledged as a reaper indoctrination attempt and weren't supposed to make physical sense in the context of the ME universe and then had a few extra scenes after Shep breaks the indoctrination attempt and does something sensical, followed by the cinematics of war assets doing something.
 

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dreadedcandiru99 said:
After two weeks, it still astounds me that practically everyone in the world except for Bioware's team of professional writers was able to think of this. They actually believed that "And then Shepard's friends ran away and the galaxy exploded, THE END!" would satisfy people. They accepted a paycheck in exchange for that.

...my head hurts.
No doubt. Seriously, I don't even... I can't... I have no idea why they thought that what they did was such a good idea. I have a few theories though:

1) They were/are the best trolls the world has ever known

2) They wanted to see how involved people were in their games, and were already planning to rectify this after they saw reactions

3) The writers all had a party and were late for work before deadlines, causing them to get fired. The higher-ups then hired someone last minute who would work for cheap. Such as a group of 12 year olds. Or some chimpanzees.
 

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Starting from after the point where Anderson dies...


The crucible detonates much as it did in the default ending, a powerful blast of energy that miraculously destroys every Reaper in the galaxy; their ashes raining down on Earth. Liara (or whoever you chose to romance) looks up to the sky, a smile crosses her face and a lone tear races down her cheek.

"He did it."

Admiral Hackett stands solemnly at the Galaxy map; the crew of the Normandy rise from their stations and look to Hackett as he steps back and salutes in honor of the bravest man he ever knew.

Wrex and Eve stand side-by-side, overlooking the ruins of Earth. Together, the two of them step down from the rubble, ready to do their part in rebuilding the Galaxy.

Tali watches the destruction of the Reapers from a distance. The man she loved is gone forever. Garrus approaches her and throws his arm over her shoulder, comforting her. Together they leave for Rannoch to begin their lives anew.

James and Kaidan stand among Turian, Krogan and Alliance soldiers watching the Reapers explode into a brilliant light that illuminates the horizon.

*One week later*

The survivors of Shepard's crew--squadmates and Normandy crewmen--toast Shepard in Flux. Aria watches from a distance, silently remembering the man who saved the galaxy.

Kaidan eulogizes his fallen friend at a memorial service. All of Shepard's former squadmates are in attendance, as well as all surviving members of the Council, including the newly inducted Steven Hackett.

*Twenty years later*

Liara and her daughter (Shepard's) visit a monument to Shepard. Liara whispers something in the child's ear. Something the audience can't hear, but something that lights up the child's face.

The monument stands boldly and resiliently in the center of newly rebuilt London, a monument to the greatest hero who ever lived. Commander Shepard.

*THE END*

C'mon Bioware, if I can come up with that in ten minutes, it shouldn't take you two years to produce crap.
 

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TK421 said:
No doubt. Seriously, I don't even... I can't... I have no idea why they thought that what they did was such a good idea. I have a few theories though:

1) They were/are the best trolls the world has ever known

2) They wanted to see how involved people were in their games, and were already planning to rectify this after they saw reactions

3) The writers all had a party and were late for work before deadlines, causing them to get fired. The higher-ups then hired someone last minute who would work for cheap. Such as a group of 12 year olds. Or some chimpanzees.
If they were smart they would say 2), and read forums
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
Since I picked Control, I'd like to see something that reflects Shepard controlling all teh Reapers. Personally, I want to see Shepard flying around as the hive-mind of the Reapers, doing cool Shepard things as the new galactic over-god.

FemShep's voice: "Assuming direct control." And then all the husks in the area glow red and start rebuilding damaged buildings or something civicly minded like that. Meanwhile a fleet of Reapers repair/build a new Sol Relay.
I didn't pick control, but if I had, this type of ending would have been awesome.

If none of the endings are changed, I'm fine with just an epilogue. Even with sacrificing Shepard...just give me the blue babies!><
 

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Grivahri said:
Interesting. I like how you imagined the final push towards the tower. Fighting two forces at once, getting updated by Hackett and deciding whether squadmate(s) should hold off the enemies while you take on TIM. Maybe the "citadel run" could be the suicide mission of ME3. You face a ridiculous amount of enemies as you push towards the tower. Maybe your entire crew should be with you and you choose three teams. One team that holds off the right flank, the other the left flank and the remaining two goes with you. Then depending on your war assets, previous choices and how you construct the teams your crew will live or die. I wonder if the developers even considered making endings like these.
Well, I mainly wanted to somehow find ways to incorporate the choices you make along the way, make it so that your war-assets worked for you and that you could see it (Especially due to that being one of the major complaints about the ending).

That, and sometimes theres nothing wrong sticking to formula. It works, and you don't need to fix what isn't broken. Improve on, certainly. As it was, there were plenty of parallels to the endings of both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 3, mainly:

Convincing the Illusive Man to commit suicide so that he does less damage to the galaxy, now that he is clearly indoctrinated. You could do the same to Saren.

So, I felt that there could be a way to mirror both of the ends to the previous games, while making the ending of the third something all its own. A series of homages and references without being completely ripped-off. Its a fine line, and I'd like to think that if it ended this way, it wouldn't have crossed that line, but I can't be sure.

As for the developers and how they thought, I'd like to think so. I want to believe that the writers of Mass Effect 3 knew better, and that they thought of this before. And that it was just time constraints, budget constraints and the idiocy of the few drowning out the protests of the many. At least, until the many became the 'many more'. I refuse to look at the majority of the game and then look at the ending and say that the same people wrote both. The contrast is so stark to me that I think the rumors might be true. Casey Hudson might just be the one who made the ending on his own, possibly even on a whim, without peer review or input. But, we may never really know.

Still, I'm sure there are even better ideas for endings than my own. This was just my thought that I came up with as I wrote.
 

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What I would like:

Three different endings.

This is my main beef with the ending; the logic, the starchild, Shepherd dying, Anderson getting their first, the Illusive Man and his scene, Normandy leaving the system, etc., these are things that I can live with. (I'd even be willing to shell out for DLC to help explain that stuff, or follow up on that stuff.) Spelling "ending" as "ending", "Ending" and "ENDING" just doesn't cut it for me.

Destroy the Reapers:
-Reapers simply stop functioning. No one knows what is happening - enough time passes that the Normandy is able to land on Earth, where Shepherd was last seen, and the surviving crew gathers there.
-Shepherd is able to broadcast a message through them, and says "You have (short time period) to get back to your home systems before the mass relay's explode. GO!"
-Joker and the Normandy take off, heading for a mass relay in order to get to either Palavan or Rannoch and save the two who can't survive on Earth.
--100% Assets: Most of the non-human ships are able to escape in time. Most non-humans are able to be evacuated because you have enough surviving ships to evacuate the wounded and the other crippled starships.
-Citadel is destroyed.
--100% assets: There is a human ship near the Citadel, and Shepherd manages to get to an escape pod which lets him get to the ship and escape.
--99% and lower assets: Shepherd dies on the Citadel.
-Reapers are destroyed.
-Relays are destroyed.
--100% assets: Normandy gets to Palavan/Rannoch.
--99% and lower assets: Normandy crash lands on some unknown planet.
-Cheers on Earth
--100% assets: Most of Earth is still standing
--99% and lower: Every X%, more of Earth is destroyed.
--100% assets AND Paragon options to save the Geth: Geth are spared.
--99% and lower assets: Geth are destroyed with the Reapers. (Not much of a logical reason for this, more space magic than anything else.)
-Cue Credits.
-Stargazer and Child talk about the Shepherd, in obviously human voices. Talk about how The Shepherd destroyed the Reapers and saved the Galaxy, but at a great cost. Reinforce the Renegade "Succeed at all costs" ideal in the story, for this is what The Shepherd did.

2) Control the Reapers

-Reapers simply stop functioning. No one knows what is happening - enough time passes that the Normandy is able to land on Earth, where Shepherd was last seen, and the surviving crew gathers there.
-Shepherd melds with the Citadel/Catalyst, and vanishes/is digitized in a blue light.
-Reapers begin to glow blue.
-A combination of Shepherds voice and a Reapers voice comes out, announcing that the Reapers are departing for Dark Space again.
-Mass Relays are untouched.
-Fleets take up a position around Earth
-Citadel vanishes.
-Cheers on Earth
--100% assets: Most of Earth is still standing
--99% and lower: Every X%, more of Earth is destroyed.
-Cue Credits.
-Stargazer and Child talk about the Shepherd, in obviously alien voices. Stargazer tells of how the Shepherd defeated the Reapers for the first time. Child asks to hear the story about the second time the Shepherd defeated the Reapers. Stargazer chuckles, and says that it wasn't the Shepherd the second time, but before he says the name, the audio slowly peters out.

3) Synthesis

-Reapers simply stop functioning. No one knows what is happening - enough time passes that the Normandy is able to land on Earth, where Shepherd was last seen, and the surviving crew gathers there.
-Shepherd leaps off into the green beam, and a green light envelops all of the Reapers and Geth. Then beams leave the Synthetics and zap organic life.
-Organics do a version of the Harbinger taking control of the Collector, except Green animation.
-Wounded team mates glow green, there is a short animation of what looks like a circuit board to their veins, and their wounds close.
-Organics look somewhat like the Illusive Man combined with Shepherds scars in ME2. They look at each other in wonder.
-EDI and Joker embrace, realizing that their love can be truly expressed now. (sorry, I did like that part of the main green ending.)
-Tali looks at a nearby Geth, then takes off her helmet for a quick reveal to make Shep-Tali shippers feel like their lives have meaning, and... (*smacks hands!* Bad Tono! No low-fat muffin for you.)
--Tali looks at a nearby Geth then take off her helmet for a quick reveal, showing similarities between herself and the Geth as a way to reinforce the point and to make many Mass Effect fans happy. (will even allow for badly photoshopped stock photo.)
-Cheers on Earth
--100% assets: Most of Earth is still standing
--99% and lower: Every X%, more of Earth is destroyed.
-Earth looks slightly synthetic as the green takes a brighter shade.
-Cue Credits.
-Stargazer and Child talk about the Shepherd, in voices that sound like softened Reaper voices. (Perhaps the Stargazer would be a female voice, to soften the pitch, tone, and other audio terms that I'm horribly misusing) They talk about how The Shepherd brought a new order to the chaos in the galaxy.
 

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dreadedcandiru99 said:
Right, something like this [http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user=1183972&poll_id=29101].
Or this: http://arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125 which compounded with one of the comments made me seriously tear up.

dreadedcandiru99 said:
After two weeks, it still astounds me that practically everyone in the world except for Bioware's team of professional writers was able to think of this. They actually believed that "And then Shepard's friends ran away and the galaxy exploded, THE END!" would satisfy people. They accepted a paycheck in exchange for this ending.

...my head hurts.
To be fair, if anything about this article: http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5695/article/mass-effect-3-writer-allegedly-slams-controversial-ending/ is true, and it does sound very legit, only Hudson and Walters actually thought that was a good idea, nobody else had a say on the matter.

I'm an aspiring game designer/programmer and, to be honest, if i ever find myself in the position of having my own studio, anyone pull that kind of shit under my watch ends up with half their salary going into the budget for the fix until it's paid in full. Then we'll discuss termination, which might not occur, provided the person tattoes "I'm sorry" on their head in caps. /hyperbole
 

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Thammuz said:
dreadedcandiru99 said:
Right, something like this [http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user=1183972&poll_id=29101].
Or this: http://arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125 which compounded with one of the comments made me seriously tear up.

dreadedcandiru99 said:
After two weeks, it still astounds me that practically everyone in the world except for Bioware's team of professional writers was able to think of this. They actually believed that "And then Shepard's friends ran away and the galaxy exploded, THE END!" would satisfy people. They accepted a paycheck in exchange for this ending.

...my head hurts.
To be fair, if anything about this article: http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5695/article/mass-effect-3-writer-allegedly-slams-controversial-ending/ is true, and it does sound very legit, only Hudson and Walters actually thought that was a good idea, nobody else had a say on the matter.

I'm an aspiring game designer/programmer and, to be honest, if i ever find myself in the position of having my own studio, anyone pull that kind of shit under my watch ends up with half their salary going into the budget for the fix until it's paid in full. Then we'll discuss termination, which might not occur, provided the person tattoes "I'm sorry" on their head in caps. /hyperbole
When you say terminate, do you mean like this?



Or like this?
 

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sshakespeare said:
I can accept the 3 colours of ending (doesnt mean I like them) but dont have Joker and the Normandy running away from the fight for no reason makes no sense
I'd also like to point out he either kidnapped your crew before the fight and sent robots to fight with you OR took a stop to pick them up.

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The comic on Page One as the First Post gots me summed up. If all of a sudden a character you thought was dead just came out of no where and pulled a awesome, bad ass stunt against that little kid ghost thing. The 'Marauder Shields' thing of sorts. Sure it would make less sense, but would be funny as a option while talking to the kid to yell "MARAUDER!" and he just headshots the ghost thing.