Poll: What's your opinion on Loli and Lolicon?

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crepesack

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(Beardback-tan condemns lolicon)

Hello escapist! I come here asking your opinion on lolicon. Most specifically its morality and definition.

According to Google translate "rorikon" in japanese gives pedophile in english. This definition sort of irked me as in my opinion being a lolicon isn't the same as pedophilia although in some circles, I admit, it is.

So here we are Escapist, what is your opinion?
 

SnootyEnglishman

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I just see them as cool pictures to look at. If anyone gets turned on by just a picture then there's something with their brain.
 

Julianking93

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Oh here is the perfect thread for me...

OT, as someone who admittedly views lolicon hentai, I can't say that it equals perverse pedophiliac attractions.

It's just an art style, no more fucked up than anything else in hentai. It's just a different form of it. While the depictions are of children or fully grown women who happen to look like children, it doesn't mean the person viewing or drawing is a pedophile.


Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find.. Those type of people are sick and disgusting. They're the ones leaving things in comments about how they've claimed to fuck their 6 year old sister or how much they wish the drawing was real.
 

Miumaru

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Julianking93 said:
Oh here is the perfect thread for me...

OT, as someone who admittedly views lolicon hentai, I can't say that it equals perverse pedophiliac attractions. It's just an art style, no more fucked up than anything else in hentai. It's just a different form of it. While the depictions are of children or fully grown women who happen to look like children, it doesn't mean the person viewing or drawing is a pedophile.

Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find.. Those type of people are sick and disgusting.
Would you prefer they actually do it or look at real CP? Better to have pedophiles take care of their interests harmlessly through stuff like loli than end up scarring children forever.
 

Julianking93

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Miumaru said:
Julianking93 said:
Oh here is the perfect thread for me...

OT, as someone who admittedly views lolicon hentai, I can't say that it equals perverse pedophiliac attractions. It's just an art style, no more fucked up than anything else in hentai. It's just a different form of it. While the depictions are of children or fully grown women who happen to look like children, it doesn't mean the person viewing or drawing is a pedophile.

Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find.. Those type of people are sick and disgusting.
Would you prefer they actually do it or look at real CP? Better to have pedophiles take care of their interests harmlessly through stuff like loli than end up scarring children forever.
That's exactly my point.

There are two sides to this argument.

One that states the pedophiles are better off just looking at that rather than really doing anything, which is the one I fully agree with.

Then there's the other that states they will eventually tire of just pictures then move to real CP and eventually child molestation.

That's never happened to me so I can't say it's true, though I've never seen any studies on the subject or met anyone who was like that.
 

Miumaru

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Julianking93 said:
Miumaru said:
Julianking93 said:
Oh here is the perfect thread for me...

OT, as someone who admittedly views lolicon hentai, I can't say that it equals perverse pedophiliac attractions. It's just an art style, no more fucked up than anything else in hentai. It's just a different form of it. While the depictions are of children or fully grown women who happen to look like children, it doesn't mean the person viewing or drawing is a pedophile.

Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find.. Those type of people are sick and disgusting.
Would you prefer they actually do it or look at real CP? Better to have pedophiles take care of their interests harmlessly through stuff like loli than end up scarring children forever.
That's exactly my point.

There are two sides to this argument.

One that states the pedophiles are better off just looking at that rather than really doing anything, which is the one I fully agree with.

Then there's the other that states they will eventually tire of just pictures then move to real CP and eventually child molestation.

That's never happened to me so I can't say it's true, though I've never seen any studies on the subject or met anyone who was like that.
And people could get tired of killing virtual hookers in GTA and go out to kill real ones.
 

Julianking93

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Miumaru said:
Julianking93 said:
Miumaru said:
Julianking93 said:
Oh here is the perfect thread for me...

OT, as someone who admittedly views lolicon hentai, I can't say that it equals perverse pedophiliac attractions. It's just an art style, no more fucked up than anything else in hentai. It's just a different form of it. While the depictions are of children or fully grown women who happen to look like children, it doesn't mean the person viewing or drawing is a pedophile.

Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find.. Those type of people are sick and disgusting.
Would you prefer they actually do it or look at real CP? Better to have pedophiles take care of their interests harmlessly through stuff like loli than end up scarring children forever.
That's exactly my point.

There are two sides to this argument.

One that states the pedophiles are better off just looking at that rather than really doing anything, which is the one I fully agree with.

Then there's the other that states they will eventually tire of just pictures then move to real CP and eventually child molestation.

That's never happened to me so I can't say it's true, though I've never seen any studies on the subject or met anyone who was like that.
And people could get tired of killing virtual hookers in GTA and go out to kill real ones.
Precisely.

That's the same bullshit people like Jack Thompson try to say, but nothing has yet to say it's true.
 

chainer1216

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not my thing, but i don't think theirs anything morally wrong with it, its just pictures, to say it equals pedophilia would be like saying playing action games is murder.
 

Gigaguy64

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It Depends.
I don't like Erotic Loli.
But i find just Loli to be utterly Adorable.

A lot of people hear the word Loli and immediately think Pedophile.
But really Loli is just a style, Erotic Loli is not the entire style.
 

Miumaru

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Julianking93 said:
Miumaru said:
Julianking93 said:
Miumaru said:
Julianking93 said:
Oh here is the perfect thread for me...

OT, as someone who admittedly views lolicon hentai, I can't say that it equals perverse pedophiliac attractions. It's just an art style, no more fucked up than anything else in hentai. It's just a different form of it. While the depictions are of children or fully grown women who happen to look like children, it doesn't mean the person viewing or drawing is a pedophile.

Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find.. Those type of people are sick and disgusting.
Would you prefer they actually do it or look at real CP? Better to have pedophiles take care of their interests harmlessly through stuff like loli than end up scarring children forever.
That's exactly my point.

There are two sides to this argument.

One that states the pedophiles are better off just looking at that rather than really doing anything, which is the one I fully agree with.

Then there's the other that states they will eventually tire of just pictures then move to real CP and eventually child molestation.

That's never happened to me so I can't say it's true, though I've never seen any studies on the subject or met anyone who was like that.
And people could get tired of killing virtual hookers in GTA and go out to kill real ones.
Precisely.

That's the same bullshit people like Jack Thompson try to say, but nothing has yet to say it's true.
So we were both playing Devil's Advocate against eachother? @-@
 

evilartist

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Julianking93 said:
Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find..
That may not last forever, though. I've heard that lawmakers are starting to arrest people for owning loli.
 

Julianking93

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Miumaru said:
So we were both playing Devil's Advocate against eachother? @-@
Seems to be the case, yes.
evilartist said:
Julianking93 said:
Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find..
That may not last forever, though. I've heard that lawmakers are starting to arrest people for owning loli.
Some are in some countries. I live in a country where it's legal, so I have no reason to worry.

For the time being anyway.
 

crepesack

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evilartist said:
Julianking93 said:
Though, while I say this, there are plenty of people who are pedophiles who view it as the only legal substitute for CP that they can find..
That may not last forever, though. I've heard that lawmakers are starting to arrest people for owning loli.

You are correct, there was a bust of this man's loli paraphernalia collection recently (within the last 2 years) and he was arrested and fined. His collection contained a vast number of eromanga and miscellaneous products. However the damning evidence was the manga's specification of underagedness.

This was in the United States, I'll have you.
 

Sacman

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Julianking93 said:
Oh here is the perfect thread for me...

OT, as someone who admittedly views lolicon hentai
I thought I was the only one on this site!!!
 

Julianking93

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Sacman said:
Julianking93 said:
Oh here is the perfect thread for me...

OT, as someone who admittedly views lolicon hentai
I thought I was the only one on this site!!!
Wait, you did????

Dear, god man I've openly said I enjoy lolicon several times here XD

Should be obvious from my avatar and list of favourite anime.