Poll: When did COD 'jump the shark'? - if ever (Spoilers within)

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Drakmeire

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When the games became "COD:ONLINE" with the entire single player campaign as a 4 hour exorcise in running to checkpoints followed by rail shooting.
I can forgive COD4 just because the nuke at the end made an artistic statement...not that any of the fans appreciated the humanization of the "invincible hero" being wiped out in a few brief seconds. most of them just said "Wow, that was gay"
I understand that I am stereotyping but come on, 90% of the people I've met that play the game are under 15 years old.
 

Treblaine

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MCDeltaT said:
Eveonline100 said:
MCDeltaT said:
Black Ops, Level 3. I need not say more.
the one where you meet John F kennedy or the level where you blow up the rocket?
The Kennedy bit, mainly because it completely ruins what I assume was meant to be a huge plot twist.
Well for that game the Russian rocket level was a massive shark-jump.

I mean it was freaking irrelevant, sabotaging the Russian Space program and a blatant fake-death of the big bad. Who is a terrible big-bad. it was all but irrelevant to the "plot" as stupid as it was.

And to spite all our efforts we fail and miraculously we find a command-guided rocket, that is apparently part of the plan, to blow up the rocket in air as it launches. Why isn't that Plan A? For one it doesn't get us freaking shot at and surrounded as we try to shoot our way into a base.
 

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Treblaine said:
MCDeltaT said:
Eveonline100 said:
MCDeltaT said:
Black Ops, Level 3. I need not say more.
the one where you meet John F kennedy or the level where you blow up the rocket?
The Kennedy bit, mainly because it completely ruins what I assume was meant to be a huge plot twist.
Well for that game the Russian rocket level was a massive shark-jump.

I mean it was freaking irrelevant, sabotaging the Russian Space program and a blatant fake-death of the big bad. Who is a terrible big-bad. it was all but irrelevant to the "plot" as stupid as it was.

And to spite all our efforts we fail and miraculously we find a command-guided rocket, that is apparently part of the plan, to blow up the rocket in air as it launches. Why isn't that Plan A? For one it doesn't get us freaking shot at and surrounded as we try to shoot our way into a base.
Seems like the entire game is just one big shark jumping party.
 

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It jumped the shark the moment that Soap told me use a heartbeat sensor......
Yeah, that just about made sense in Aliens when they had master interplanetary travel with colonisation and terraforming of alien worlds... but not in the 2010's

It doesn't even serve a good purpose, and it couldn't have been done by something more relevant like - oh I don't know - a satellite thermal view of the base with a screen mounted on the rifle? So it would be a first person game but with a picture-in-picture of a third person top-down view.

Ah, but that would be original. Far easier to just rip off a Hollywood sci-fi movie. It even has the same blippy noise.

It was officially the point when COD went from "applied technological principals" like what Tom Clancy does to just making up shit that has zero technological basis. I don't know, maybe there are idiots out there who think a red-dot sight is just so freaking magical because they don't know how it works... "well then I guess I don't care if another thing appears that I have no idea how it works, it's all magic to me".
Even the third person top-down view was done in Ghost Recon (at least in the later ones). Ironically enough, those are Clancy games, and they make sense.

And come on guys, I suspended my disbelief a little bit longer--up until the point where they cleared a 30 metre gap on snowmobiles ;).
 

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Personally for me it was when Shepard suddenly executed me for no reason


Oh it's such fucking bullshit. It makes no sense... ever. And it's such melodramatic Schlock. And then Price whoring himself out misquoting Churchill he then goes on a rampage murdering his own allies to "kill shepard". And for what? By MW3 they are STILL fugitives.

Wait... wouldn't it be better to get Makarov instead? Wasn't it just an hour ago he was mowing down hundreds of innocent people with a belt-fed machine gun. Now suddenly Shepard is the bad guy? Sorry, but get things into perspective. You report shit like this to the President or the Prime Minister.

See anything up to this point you could have moved on from, but not this. It's down hill from here baby, way WAY down.
Holy fuck shit! Its an actual valid criticism of MW2 instead of *HURR DURR* IT WAS TEH SAME GAMEZ. I'm totally gonna send you a pic of a cake or something. You'll probably be the only guy to post in this thread that says something beside *DERP DEY WERE ALL GARBAGE*

I agree, it doesn't make any sense at all once you think about it. They could have been alot less over the top in making Soap and Price fugitives. So for that I do hope that MW:3 is the last one... the story might be able to hold together enough for one more game, but I am not hopeful past that. My hope is that they end the story arc and move on to something else.
 

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T8B95 said:
Treblaine said:
TheSapphireKnight said:
It jumped the shark the moment that Soap told me use a heartbeat sensor......
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Even the third person top-down view was done in Ghost Recon (at least in the later ones). Ironically enough, those are Clancy games, and they make sense.

And come on guys, I suspended my disbelief a little bit longer--up until the point where they cleared a 30 metre gap on snowmobiles ;).

Snowmobiles are pretty amazing machines.... 30 meter jump isn't really all that impressive tbh.
 

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When it Branched into Modern Warfare. I prefer'd my World War Two with 1-3. World at War was ok. Yet Big Red One and 3 had the best campaign to me.

Sure World War Two isn't to original but it also represents the time when it was young and wasn't focused on multiplayer.
 

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Oh it's such fucking bullshit. It makes no sense... ever. And it's such melodramatic Schlock. And then Price whoring himself out misquoting Churchill he then goes on a rampage murdering his own allies to "kill shepard". And for what? By MW3 they are STILL fugitives.
The reason why Shepard kills them is because the DSM they recovered contained information on Shepard and Makarovv's deal to start the war. In order to prevent Roach and Ghost from finsing this out he has them and the rest of TF 141 killed, remember those guys were the elite of the elite and having them out of the picture would make Shepard's plan much easier.

Also the level is called "loose ends", Shepard doesn't like loose ends, and TF 141 was a big loose end and were the only people who had a chnace of finding out what Shepard was really planning.

Yes it's stupid, but it does make sense in a stupid Hollywood blockbuster action flick kind of way.
 

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ChupathingyX said:
Treblaine said:
Oh it's such fucking bullshit. It makes no sense... ever. And it's such melodramatic Schlock. And then Price whoring himself out misquoting Churchill he then goes on a rampage murdering his own allies to "kill shepard". And for what? By MW3 they are STILL fugitives.
The reason why Shepard kills them is because the DSM they recovered contained information on Shepard and Makarovv's deal to start the war. In order to prevent Roach and Ghost from finsing this out he has them and the rest of TF 141 killed, remember those guys were the elite of the elite and having them out of the picture would make Shepard's plan much easier.

Also the level is called "loose ends", Shepard doesn't like loose ends, and TF 141 was a big loose end and were the only people who had a chnace of finding out what Shepard was really planning.

Yes it's stupid, but it does make sense in a stupid Hollywood blockbuster action flick kind of way.
uuuuh, Shepard had the DSM IS HIS HAND when he shot me.

It is also NEVER made clear what Shepard's involvement actually is. Were he an Makarov allies? Or did Shepard trick Makarov? Or did Makarov trick Shepard and Shepard is just covering up his screw up.

Whatever he did, he had no reason to kill or try to kill Soap, Price, Roach or any of TF-141.

They were zero threat, they knew nothing. THERE WAS NO LOOSE END!!! Hollywood has never done something this stupid.

In fact the first hint that Shepard was in any way untoward was when he started murdering his own side.

All Shepard had to do when he was handed the DSM was say:
"good job, now get on that chopper and get your ass to Afghanistan"
Roach: "Say, what's on the DSM?"
Shepard: "Top Secret. Now shut the fuck up and go kill Makarov!"

those guys were the elite of the elite
Don't you think it causes a fuck load more loose ends trying to murder the most elite special forces team in the Western Block? Imagine if General Pretraus started ordering that all the Navy SEALS get shot on sight, that raises a million god damn questions. The most obvious one being that if you don't kill them all then any survivors are a massive fucking liability simply if they contact a politician, judge or simply another officer to inform of the treason.

Even if by some miracle he is able to kill all the TF-141 without anyone noticing, what about his murder squad? They know Shepard is guilty as hell, that IS A MASSIVE LOOSE END! He would then have to kill them all, but then he'd have to killer the killers of his killers. This is why conspiracies are bullshit, it's a Ponzi scheme of murder.

But while Shepard's motives are moronic, not quite as retarded as deliberately provoking that his own country gets invaded to boost recruitment numbers.

yeah, boost recruitment numbers when earlier in the game he was boasting about how the US Army was the largest and most powerful military force THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN!! And he is willing to jeopardise every part of his country just to make it a little bit bigger?

BULLSHIT!

The Rock had a more logical plot and that is NO ENDORSEMENT!
 

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Jumping the canyon that was TOO far for me to jump. Its possible to go far but even with that steep a slope and a jump, not possible to go that far.

OFF TOPIC: Did anyone ever say the Halo "Betrayal" sound when Shepard betrayed them? Its hilarious.
 
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Um....I guess I'd have to say the multiplayer of MW2. I love the campaign and Spec OPs, but the multiplayer sucked. I mean really...Dual wielding shotguns? Are you FUCKING kidding me?
 

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I am suprised to be the only one to vote for MW3 based on the trailers so far. I liked every CoD so far for one reason or another. From M1 garand to M4A1 i love it all. MW1 gave me the best campaign, MW2 gave me the bast multiplayer gameplay, and Black Op gave me BRAINS!!! However it seems like the more attention you pay to the trailer the more it seems like you couldve place it on air a few years ago as a trailer for MW2
 

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when they stopped making CoD games and started making and let franchise stagnate. Seriously, there was a stagnating competition between Halo and CoD. Halo at least came up with RTS, instead of "oh look the only reason anybody will buy this game is zombies"
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Um....I guess I'd have to say the multiplayer of MW2. I love the campaign and Spec OPs, but the multiplayer sucked. I mean really...Dual wielding shotguns? Are you FUCKING kidding me?
The Rock did it in The Rundown, don't be hatin'!

But yeah, that's some serious bullshit.
 

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It was the point where you crawled painfully injured and dieing from the helicopter in MW4. That was touching. Dieing 16 more times? way to turn something that NEVER happens in games into a cliche.

From that point on they kept using the same shit but just "MORE XXX-TREEMEEE!"
 

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For me, it was the triple nuke. The problem was that it really did sound like investors saying "Wow, everyone loved the nuke in MW1! If we do it three times, it'll be three times better, right?"