ZG was a 20 man raid.
I started with WoW a few months after it's release. Being an Everquest Player who was burned out (and not appreciative of some of their design desicians) I tried a few other games like Shadowbane and pretty much wound up thinking "meh". I went to EQ II with baited breath when it came out and wound up thinking "meh". Then I tried World Of Warcraft since people were raving about it, and found it to be a much better game. I admit to some burn out with it, but despite having tried numerous other games, honestly nobody has yet to do MMOs better.
The potential to make a better than WoW definatly exists, but nobody has yet done it for real. Games like Age Of Conan wind up never turning out to be anything like the hype around them implies.
Right now I'm looking at the two new Supers games coming out (Champions Online & DC Heroes) as well as the new Knights Of the Old Republic MMO. It all comes down to content for the heroes games, and with Knights Of The Old Republic even if they get everything perfect they need to start planning ahead for "Sith Mania" and to keep the game balanced. I personally think Warhammer Online didn't skyrocket like many thought it would because despite being telegraphed a mile away (Road To War, forums, etc...) the Destruction side wound up being unbalanced, and everyone went to that side at least when I was playing. Being a good guy in MMOs is already viewed as being a huge gip (Penny Arcade flat out called rolling alliance in WoW being one of the biggest gips in the gaming world at one point). I half expect KoTRO to die the same way due to overpowered Sith (despite during this time period the Sith getting wiped out so badly that a few thousand years later nobody even knows what a bloody Sith was for sure) and massive "I want to pwn as a Dark Jedi" mania.
At any rate, we'll see what happens in the future, but right now WoW is the best thing out there, and I've played it for years. Not a great player, but I'm there, and I have eventually wound up seeing all of the "Endgame" content before it became totally obselete.
>>>----Therumancer--->
I started with WoW a few months after it's release. Being an Everquest Player who was burned out (and not appreciative of some of their design desicians) I tried a few other games like Shadowbane and pretty much wound up thinking "meh". I went to EQ II with baited breath when it came out and wound up thinking "meh". Then I tried World Of Warcraft since people were raving about it, and found it to be a much better game. I admit to some burn out with it, but despite having tried numerous other games, honestly nobody has yet to do MMOs better.
The potential to make a better than WoW definatly exists, but nobody has yet done it for real. Games like Age Of Conan wind up never turning out to be anything like the hype around them implies.
Right now I'm looking at the two new Supers games coming out (Champions Online & DC Heroes) as well as the new Knights Of the Old Republic MMO. It all comes down to content for the heroes games, and with Knights Of The Old Republic even if they get everything perfect they need to start planning ahead for "Sith Mania" and to keep the game balanced. I personally think Warhammer Online didn't skyrocket like many thought it would because despite being telegraphed a mile away (Road To War, forums, etc...) the Destruction side wound up being unbalanced, and everyone went to that side at least when I was playing. Being a good guy in MMOs is already viewed as being a huge gip (Penny Arcade flat out called rolling alliance in WoW being one of the biggest gips in the gaming world at one point). I half expect KoTRO to die the same way due to overpowered Sith (despite during this time period the Sith getting wiped out so badly that a few thousand years later nobody even knows what a bloody Sith was for sure) and massive "I want to pwn as a Dark Jedi" mania.
At any rate, we'll see what happens in the future, but right now WoW is the best thing out there, and I've played it for years. Not a great player, but I'm there, and I have eventually wound up seeing all of the "Endgame" content before it became totally obselete.
>>>----Therumancer--->