Poll: Which are more annoying, fanboys or haters?

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Vrex360

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Right now there has been a lost of talk about fanboys lately and an equal amount of talk about haters. Now I got the idea for this thread, when someone made a thread asking how Halo is so popular when it's so mediocre for the forty seventh time *twitch*. Most of the people responded simply 'Halo is popular because people like it, accept it and piss off ' however it did give me a moment's reflection. That moment of reflection then spawned this poll.

My thought was (I'm going to use Halo as an example because currently it really best example) 'how come there is so much flack about fanboys when there are so much more haters?' Let me reprhase that:
Whenever people talk about how annoying and obnoxious Halo fanboys are (I saw a poster about this in another thread), always whining about how great Halo is and that you should only ever play Halo. I always find myself wondering where these idiot fanboys are. Because whenever I surf the threads I never see any posts like that, in fact more often it's about Half Life. However one thing I do see a lot of is obnoxious and frankly juvenile attempts at starting flame wars usually starting by some Valve optimist going onto a Halo based thread and spamming it with hatred an obvious trolling for something three posts before getting banned. Meanwhile I'm being told that Halo fanboys do this but I never see it, in any forum I go onto.
(this now marks the end of using Halo as an example, as I'll probably warrant a few million responses all with the intelligent, detached academic response of PLAE HL2 HALO SUX.)

Personally I feel that the concept of 'fanboy' needs a broader definition because most people who are accused of fanboyism are simply fans of the game. Meanwhile the people who really, really, Really, REALLY want everyone to know how much they hate (enter game title here) will make post after post, thread after thread, spam after spam and troll after troll and honestly it gets on my nerves.

But that's just my view of it... where do you stand in this. What is a bigger plague to the forums, fanboys or haters?
 

SharPhoe

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madbird-valiant said:
Haters. Fanboys generally don't bother anyone until Haters insult their baby. And Haters need no provocation to be absolute douches.
You seem to forget that fanboys also show no restraint in decrying anything that could compete with their flower child, thus making fanboys and haters one and the same, in some situations.
 

CosmicGrenade

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I would have to say both. Haters just go off and with Fanboys go off if you say something even remotely agaist what they love.... it's a lose/lose situation.
 

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madbird-valiant said:
Haters. Fanboys generally don't bother anyone until Haters insult their baby. And Haters need no provocation to be absolute douches.
Couldn't have said it better.
 

kjrubberducky

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Both. They feed off each other. It doesn't matter who starts it, and most times you can never find the true source in the first place. All of a sudden, the thread is just there, and the war is on.

Also, sometimes the Fanboys ARE the Haters. A Halo Fanboy = A Half-Life Hater, and vice versa. They always have to take the high ground: "No, the game XXX doesn't just suck, it is an absolute FAILURE compared to game YYY."

I mean, at least Yahtzee tries to hate everything. (He's still a Valve Fanboy / JRPG Hater, though. :p)
 

tk1989

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Fanboys. Because without fanboys there would be no haters.

You need to go to the route of the problem to destroy them both.
 

Valiance

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madbird-valiant said:
Haters. Fanboys generally don't bother anyone until Haters insult their baby. And Haters need no provocation to be absolute douches.
I resent that.

I only speak my opinions on certain games/consoles when I have the opportunity to do so...And there's some pretty good things about any game, even if I don't like them or think they straight up suck.

That said, I'm overly critical of everything: that is, I tend to find something to hate about everything, even my favorite games.

Naturally, I hate it when mediocre or bad products do better than exceptionally good products, but I think everyone here does - like BG&E having less sales than the Imagine series.I feel like a justified hater, but I suppose they all do, eh?

I just feel terrible and superficial when people just talk to me about how beautiful and wonderful everything is. Especially when I personally feel it's not. Now, I'm not about to give a lecture on how awesome the GOOD OL' DAYS were, but suffice to say that I can, I almost want to, but I don't mind people enjoying what they have.

I'm just tired of everyone running around talking about how they're a FPS expert when they've never heard of Quake, and the only UT they've played is 3. I'm tired of people claiming to be the biggest Fallout fan when they've never played the first two games. Tired of strategy experts who won't play Starcraft because the graphics are cartoony.

I don't like it when fanboys are in love with their franchise and refuse to try anything else.
I don't like it when fanboys talk down on me for not liking their franchise when I already have a substitute that (to me) is superior.
I don't like it when fanboys are bro gamers.

Can I stop now?

The problem is that fanboys ARE haters. Ever meet a PS3 fanboy? 80% of the time they're 360 haters. And likewise for the 360. Ever meet a PC, 360, OR PS3 fanboy? They're all fucking Wii haters. Ever find a Wii fanboy? They shun everyone who even owns a 360 or PS3 because OBVIOUSLY the ONLY people who would own a 360 is a FPS-fanboy, and all PS3-owners HAVE to love MGS and hate those 'casual' kiddie games.

Unconditional love for something that deserves it? Debatable.
Unconditional love for something that doesn't deserve it? Bad.
Unconditional hate for anything? No.
Conditional hate for products and companies that do services in a way that is wrong? Debatable. (windows live, I mean, seriously)

Anyway, my point is that haters can be justified. A lot of them are terrible, but not all of them. And fanboys can be justified too. A lot of them are terrible, but not all of them.

Why lop them together like this?
 

NeutralDrow

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Haters, hands down. Fanboys can get overenthusiastic at times, but they're never as obnoxious or spiteful and haters.

Yes, there's some overlap as fanboys can hate on other things...but it's always that hater tendency they adopt that gets on my last nerve.

tk1989 said:
Fanboys. Because without fanboys there would be no haters.
Get rid of fanboys, and haters won't even notice, let alone change.
 

Sketchy

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kjrubberducky said:
I mean, at least Yahtzee tries to hate everything. (He's still a Valve Fanboy / JRPG Hater, though. :p)
Is it possible not to be a Valve Fanboy though?

Rhetorical question, don't bother answering Valve haters.
Also, I hate haters who hate because it's the in thing to do. Hate. Like people who hate games just because everyone else does.

People who hate Halo because the majority of people on their favourite forum do, but then go and play it and have a great time.
 

tk1989

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NeutralDrow said:
tk1989 said:
Fanboys. Because without fanboys there would be no haters.
Get rid of fanboys, and haters won't even notice, let alone change.
I always was under the impression that a haters 'hate' was a result of keeping the status quo in terms of overhyped games by fanboys. If games weren't overhyped by fanboys, a la Halo 3, and if fanboys didn't keep saying "Best Game EVA", then haters wouldn't have to keep the balance and say "Worst Game EVA".

Its all about balance man :p
 

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It depends on who the fanboys and haters are. I suppose if I say that I say that I don't like Mass Effect too much then I might be considered a hater on Mass Effect forums. Maybe posting it on Fallout 3 forums wouldn't be as controversial and I would be seen as a reasonable poster.

When you get onto a general board it does seem that there are some hateful posters when you get a lot of anti posters for every pro. If there is some discussion about something that you don't like then you don't necessarily need to stamp your e-authority on it with a negative or hateful post. Every time.
 

NeutralDrow

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tk1989 said:
NeutralDrow said:
tk1989 said:
Fanboys. Because without fanboys there would be no haters.
Get rid of fanboys, and haters won't even notice, let alone change.
I always was under the impression that a haters 'hate' was a result of keeping the status quo in terms of overhyped games by fanboys. If games weren't overhyped by fanboys, a la Halo 3, and if fanboys didn't keep saying "Best Game EVA", then haters wouldn't have to keep the balance and say "Worst Game EVA".

Its all about balance man :p
A good chunk of the hate I see comes as a simple result of popularity rather than individual overhype. Even if FF7's fanbase was a lot less zealous, I suspect it would still attract a large share of obnoxious detractors.

I also find it hard to believe a status quo interrupted by loud geeks could be restored by loud asshats.
 

Valiance

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madbird-valiant said:
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I quoted you for the first line of my post.

Nothing more.

Congratulations, you know more tolerant people than I do. I wish I lived in that Utopia. ;/
 
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I like to think of fanboys as people who are just comically focused on their favourite game/console/film/whatever and bring it up at any opportunity. I'll call them 'enthusiastic fanboys'. I like them. They're driven by love, hope and optimism. They want their game to be good and they want everyone to know how good their game is. Yeah, it can get repetitive, but they're so enthusiastic, it's a nice thing.

Militant fanboys are what most gamers think of when they hear the word 'fanboy'. People who not only go on and on about why their favourite game is the best thing ever, but also attack anything that might threaten it. These people are a nuisance and should be ignored. But as long as they are truly fanboys and not just haters, they still have some of the postitive features of the enthusiastic fanboy; a militant Pokemon fanboy might lash out at any games machine that can't play Pokemon, but if you want to know what the 134th Pokemon in the Sinnoh Pokedex is, they can probably tell you.

Haters are like militant fanboys without the redeeming qualities. Haters look out for people who enjoyed a game more than they did, just so they can tell them it's the worst game ever. Like fanboys, haters rarely give a coherent justification for their emotional response; usually they state their opinion as an objective fact ("Pokemon is total crap!") until challenged on it, and then retreat behind the shield of subjectivity ("It's just my opinion and opinions are never wrong"). Haters treat any game which they didn't personally enjoy as though it had caused them physical pain. Haters are incapable of acknowledging that a game they didn't like might be fun for other people. Haters are driven not by a love of anything, but only by a need to be right.

At least fanboys celebrate games, in their misguided way. Haters are just depressing.

Vrex360 said:
I'm going to use Halo as an example because currently it really best example
I can see where you're coming from, but I was sure that invoking the H-word was going to turn this thread into a train wreck. Congratulations, it isn't... yet.