Poll: Which MMOG should I play.
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PIRATE! RANSOM THOSE MINERS!!!Jobz said:
Oh god, I am so sorry. That happens sometimes. Bear in mind that you can train everything. If you're not sure, picking mining/mission running and get yerself some cash, then explore the other routes.
Try lineage 1 (it's an MMO) on a private server. Live is grindy, but it's still fun. There are plenty of servers with good rates that take the edge off the grind and allow you to get to bosses quicker. In terms of community, most of the private one's I've played have been small, and free of idiots and hackers.
I've given up on MMOs a long time ago, we're better off with SP RPGs where not every person in game is the chosen one! (or so to speak)
Though the MMO I consider "least bad" would be EVE online since not everyone is mr epic who piss liquid win and shit solid success! People in EVE are just that, people. They could just be a miner, a businessman or just a delivery man. Doesn't sound too exiting i know, but there's something about it that gives it a pleasant feeling, and the community is nice to boot.
anyway, I stay away from them pesky MMOs. SP games for teh win, or whatever...
Though the MMO I consider "least bad" would be EVE online since not everyone is mr epic who piss liquid win and shit solid success! People in EVE are just that, people. They could just be a miner, a businessman or just a delivery man. Doesn't sound too exiting i know, but there's something about it that gives it a pleasant feeling, and the community is nice to boot.
anyway, I stay away from them pesky MMOs. SP games for teh win, or whatever...
Yea, there aren't any "professions" so to speak. You can train any skills you want, as long as you can afford them. EVE isn't like WoW or EQ or WAR, if you don't like something, you can do something else without having to make a new character. Just run missions to get money and use the time to ponder what you want to do, remember, if you decide you don't like what you're doing, you can always do something different.Singing Gremlin said:
Yeah I agree with you there, it was worth something when you had to earn it. Well, at least you get to be blue.Baonec said:
Agreed with the above. SWG was possibly the best MMO in history for depth and enjoyment.Stringytank said:
Until SOE fucked it up.
I made an account just to laugh at you.Mrmandude said:
1. Learn to grammer proper.
2. OP said that he was sick of WoW. Why would he want to rejoin if he just said he was sick of it?
3. WoW was NOT the original MMO. Or has the best ideas in an MMO. Well, any that it didn't copy from somewhere else. And EVE online (among many others) doesn't try (or even want to) be WoW.
I second this. CoH is a great game, and I am thinking of reactivating my account, so if anyone plays on the Champion server, my global Id is the same as my name here. look me up!The_root_of_all_evil said:
*cough* 40k *cough*Shiuz91 said:
But, I agree. With enough funds, tabletop games are in fact awesome. If you have a Games Workshop nearby, go and have a look. They usually hold competitions regularly.
HMMM, Conan is Bobbins,Guild Wars is fun but not very indepth, Wow is my thing as yes I am one of those weird people who enjoys grind and am liking the way the Lich King has revitalised what was essentially getting a bit tired, Eve was the most tedious thing I have ever played in my life parts of my brain began to die as I played. Build a ship, realise that from that point onwards you had no skills, no decent weapons and were put up against enemies with guns with a higher range and damage than yours I was pod killed more times than you could count. Then came the point where I needed to level my skills 27 hrs later my free trial ran out so I never saw the improvement, dull dull dull!
Fallout 3 would shatter your Wow need though its awesome
Fallout 3 would shatter your Wow need though its awesome
eve online is not that good.
when it first came out it had great graphics, now they aren't anything special
and to be honest..the game seems fun for a while but...there's just so much travel time. that is what you do most of the game.
until you pay for the game for a year or so...it takes about that long to have a character that can do much of anything. maybe longer now. since skill gain is based on TIME alone (offline/online, one isnt faster than the other) you won't have a character that can do anything for a very long time
and nobody can rush you or anything like that.
its a good move to get money from people since you gotta pay all that money and wait all that time to get to a decent level...and then you don't want to quit because you're like, "omg all that time and money..."
the players that have been in there the longest pretty much own everyone else. i guess there are some small exceptions, but not really. maybe if you're in the wrong ship or something...anyway, aside from pvp the quests are pretty bland and repeitive...not very fun at all.
most of all you just fly places zzzz
fallout 3 is good..for a single player rpg. they basically just ripped off fallout 2. (i know, you'll say 'but aro, it's a sequel', but nothing. fallout 2 was a sequel and they didn't rip off fallout 1. in fallout 3 you still had the FEV virus. The enclave was still the finale and you still had the same power armor, you still had the plot with the president wanting you to spread the fev virus or trying to or whatever...they removed some skills, which was fine, but they didn't add anything NEW (other than the 3d engine).
Not saying its bad. Its worth a play...but if they really wanted to make it awesome all they had to do waas make it 4 player like l4d. Now that would have been epic. Ever since the internet i've had trouble enjoying single player rpgs. Its boring not to share a game with someone else imo. But maybe you hate all other people and want to be as secluded as possible...in which case i guess that's a + for you
I'd get fallout 3 (or borrow it from a friend) but once you beat the game it gets kinda dry. The V.A.T.S system is nice (same as previous fallouts, kinda) but they screwed it up. VATS is supposed to be the ONLY way to fight...not a way to do massive extra dmg. The fact that you can shoot them normally PLUS use vats makes it kinda cheeze. By the end fight nothing could touch me...i hate easy end fights.
sadly, there isn't much other choice out there. i mean...i haven't tried age of conan but i hear it sucks. not much content after 20 and pvp got gimped out or something. i'm not sure i want to bother with it. maybe if there was a free trial.
other mmorpgs (especially free ones) are pretty pathetic or just very old.
and the first graphical mmorpg was ultima online...which was awesome until they gayed it out.
even everquest was kind of fun in a masochistic way...(people certainly took that game seriously...when a death would equal 4+ hours experience loss). It was based on a MUD which is why it had so much content. Looking back, it wasn't that bad...except for the whole you have to give away your entire life to do anything productive in the game, lol. I could never play it for long because of that.
MUD's were the original MMORPG. they were text based games that people played over BBS', just thought you'd liek to know. I even played one ONCE when i was a little kid...back when the internet was just starting out. lol. i was online my dads compuserve something internet and i found it somehow one day..then couldn't find it again lol. the internet sucked back then.
um what else...i tried eq2...its like...everquest wowified...which makes it even worse than wow or everquest. sony has to be one of the dumbest companies i've ever known in my life. they can take any game, no matter what game it is, and find a ways to make it worse. they're quite amazing in that regard. (Cosmic Rift especially). I guess big companies hire people who have nice resumes despite the fact that they don't know what the **** they're doing. And these people have such big ego's that they won't ever ask for help or suggestions cause they're supposed to be good at their job and don't want to get fired.
Anyway, I think the world is about ready for a new, epic mmorpg. The question is...which company has the balls to hire someone who has the insight to make it? (ie: lord british had the right idea with UO, but they were afraid of radical ideas and so they fired him and then proceeded to ruin the game, then lord british tried making some other game in another genre he sucked at and of course it took too long and it sucked in the end, ending his famous career)
even though i like mmorpgs, the sad truth is that i'm waiting for starcraft 2 (for custom maps) and diablo 3.
as for other mmorpgs; if you're not heavily invested into a game and its already 2+ years old...don't bother. You'll never be able to do anything impressive and you'll just waste your time/money. You need to start an mmorpg at or near the beginning...then you get to learn things like everyone else and not just look at a webpage that already has all the answers (ie: mmowalkthrurpg)
It will be years before a new WoW killer is released, though. People just aren't thinking outside of the box. Or they focus so much on graphics that they lack content/depth. Hopefully once graphics improve to the point where everything is super realistic and there's really not much more room for improvement the gaming industry will start switching gears towards content again.
after all...mmorpgs are virtual life. maybe you're a blood elf, maybe you're a space trader, but you're still living their life, online. if you want to make a good mmorpg just look at real life and mirror things about it that people enjoy or are excited about (and that you are capable of mirroring...online sex games would suck since well, think about it...its not just SEEING that is important for sex lol). the only difference between a video game and real life is that there are multiple video games with multiple themes for you to enjoy, in real life there's just one epic battle where anything and everything is possible. well, that and if you die in life you die in all the other games you are playing
think about movies or books -- if the story is fantastic, thats okay...but if its just absurd where nothing makes sense and you can tell the author had no idea what they were writing about, well, you aren't going to enjoy it. like if someone gets shot in the head and dies but later on they show up and they were like "oh well i didnt die cause they missed" you'd be pissed...you'd be like, what the hell, i saw the bullet wound in your forehead...this is a dumb movie.
or like the end of universal soldier where the guy falls off the cliff in the truck but is alive later...and then he uses a muscle enhancer to make himself super stronger (as if it would work that fast...at best maybe it'd be like adrenaline...but that's different and makes no sense since EARLIER he was using the same muscle enhancer days before he needed to fight anything...so it woulda worn off, ergo, it'd be pointless for him to do that...so either it didn't amke sense then or it didn't make sense at the end...)
well that's enough blah blah
when it first came out it had great graphics, now they aren't anything special
and to be honest..the game seems fun for a while but...there's just so much travel time. that is what you do most of the game.
until you pay for the game for a year or so...it takes about that long to have a character that can do much of anything. maybe longer now. since skill gain is based on TIME alone (offline/online, one isnt faster than the other) you won't have a character that can do anything for a very long time
and nobody can rush you or anything like that.
its a good move to get money from people since you gotta pay all that money and wait all that time to get to a decent level...and then you don't want to quit because you're like, "omg all that time and money..."
the players that have been in there the longest pretty much own everyone else. i guess there are some small exceptions, but not really. maybe if you're in the wrong ship or something...anyway, aside from pvp the quests are pretty bland and repeitive...not very fun at all.
most of all you just fly places zzzz
fallout 3 is good..for a single player rpg. they basically just ripped off fallout 2. (i know, you'll say 'but aro, it's a sequel', but nothing. fallout 2 was a sequel and they didn't rip off fallout 1. in fallout 3 you still had the FEV virus. The enclave was still the finale and you still had the same power armor, you still had the plot with the president wanting you to spread the fev virus or trying to or whatever...they removed some skills, which was fine, but they didn't add anything NEW (other than the 3d engine).
Not saying its bad. Its worth a play...but if they really wanted to make it awesome all they had to do waas make it 4 player like l4d. Now that would have been epic. Ever since the internet i've had trouble enjoying single player rpgs. Its boring not to share a game with someone else imo. But maybe you hate all other people and want to be as secluded as possible...in which case i guess that's a + for you
I'd get fallout 3 (or borrow it from a friend) but once you beat the game it gets kinda dry. The V.A.T.S system is nice (same as previous fallouts, kinda) but they screwed it up. VATS is supposed to be the ONLY way to fight...not a way to do massive extra dmg. The fact that you can shoot them normally PLUS use vats makes it kinda cheeze. By the end fight nothing could touch me...i hate easy end fights.
sadly, there isn't much other choice out there. i mean...i haven't tried age of conan but i hear it sucks. not much content after 20 and pvp got gimped out or something. i'm not sure i want to bother with it. maybe if there was a free trial.
other mmorpgs (especially free ones) are pretty pathetic or just very old.
and the first graphical mmorpg was ultima online...which was awesome until they gayed it out.
even everquest was kind of fun in a masochistic way...(people certainly took that game seriously...when a death would equal 4+ hours experience loss). It was based on a MUD which is why it had so much content. Looking back, it wasn't that bad...except for the whole you have to give away your entire life to do anything productive in the game, lol. I could never play it for long because of that.
MUD's were the original MMORPG. they were text based games that people played over BBS', just thought you'd liek to know. I even played one ONCE when i was a little kid...back when the internet was just starting out. lol. i was online my dads compuserve something internet and i found it somehow one day..then couldn't find it again lol. the internet sucked back then.
um what else...i tried eq2...its like...everquest wowified...which makes it even worse than wow or everquest. sony has to be one of the dumbest companies i've ever known in my life. they can take any game, no matter what game it is, and find a ways to make it worse. they're quite amazing in that regard. (Cosmic Rift especially). I guess big companies hire people who have nice resumes despite the fact that they don't know what the **** they're doing. And these people have such big ego's that they won't ever ask for help or suggestions cause they're supposed to be good at their job and don't want to get fired.
Anyway, I think the world is about ready for a new, epic mmorpg. The question is...which company has the balls to hire someone who has the insight to make it? (ie: lord british had the right idea with UO, but they were afraid of radical ideas and so they fired him and then proceeded to ruin the game, then lord british tried making some other game in another genre he sucked at and of course it took too long and it sucked in the end, ending his famous career)
even though i like mmorpgs, the sad truth is that i'm waiting for starcraft 2 (for custom maps) and diablo 3.
as for other mmorpgs; if you're not heavily invested into a game and its already 2+ years old...don't bother. You'll never be able to do anything impressive and you'll just waste your time/money. You need to start an mmorpg at or near the beginning...then you get to learn things like everyone else and not just look at a webpage that already has all the answers (ie: mmowalkthrurpg)
It will be years before a new WoW killer is released, though. People just aren't thinking outside of the box. Or they focus so much on graphics that they lack content/depth. Hopefully once graphics improve to the point where everything is super realistic and there's really not much more room for improvement the gaming industry will start switching gears towards content again.
after all...mmorpgs are virtual life. maybe you're a blood elf, maybe you're a space trader, but you're still living their life, online. if you want to make a good mmorpg just look at real life and mirror things about it that people enjoy or are excited about (and that you are capable of mirroring...online sex games would suck since well, think about it...its not just SEEING that is important for sex lol). the only difference between a video game and real life is that there are multiple video games with multiple themes for you to enjoy, in real life there's just one epic battle where anything and everything is possible. well, that and if you die in life you die in all the other games you are playing
think about movies or books -- if the story is fantastic, thats okay...but if its just absurd where nothing makes sense and you can tell the author had no idea what they were writing about, well, you aren't going to enjoy it. like if someone gets shot in the head and dies but later on they show up and they were like "oh well i didnt die cause they missed" you'd be pissed...you'd be like, what the hell, i saw the bullet wound in your forehead...this is a dumb movie.
or like the end of universal soldier where the guy falls off the cliff in the truck but is alive later...and then he uses a muscle enhancer to make himself super stronger (as if it would work that fast...at best maybe it'd be like adrenaline...but that's different and makes no sense since EARLIER he was using the same muscle enhancer days before he needed to fight anything...so it woulda worn off, ergo, it'd be pointless for him to do that...so either it didn't amke sense then or it didn't make sense at the end...)
well that's enough blah blah