Luxembourg. With there population of less than 5000 people, you know the 10 guys in there military have to be the best.
I come from a large military family. I'm getting commissioned in the USMC after I get out of college. I'm around military personnel 24/7. Every male in my family and half the females are in the military. I have 6 family members in the USMC and 2 in SOCOM. One of them is a CCT (AF SOCOM) who has personally worked with SAS and the other is a cocky-ass SEAL. They all admit that the SAS have them beat.boyvirgo666 said:Id really like to see what your basing this on. Because iv never heard a commonly accepted rate of who is better than who.th3xile said:American here saying British SAS. SEAL's are close but it's pretty commonly accepted that the Brits got us beat in "best special forces." Also, you could have added the IDF special forces. Those Israeli's grow up in a battleground and know how to take care of business. You also left out most of the American SOCOM, while it is pretty well known that the SEALS are the best we have, there's USAF CCT's, USAF Paramedics, and USMC MARSOC.
EDIT: It's mostly known that Russian Spetzsnaz is on par with our Army Rangers, who are blown out of the water by the SEALS. Unless you're using some really weird credentials for what makes one of them the best, in terms of effectiveness, the only competition is between the SEALS and SAS.
If its your opinion just say its your opinion man.
I really don't think that Deadliest Warrior is a good source of that kind of information. Not to say it isn't entertaining, but there are always plenty of factors they never take into account. The Spetsnaz are trained well skill-wise, but Delta is more organized. One Delta vs one Spetsnaz, the Spetsnaz would probably win, but if it were squads I feel like Delta would walk all over them. Besides, Delta doesn't hold a candle to the SEALS who aren't even as good as the SAS, so I feel that this argument is pointless.Elementlmage said:They fill the same role as the Rangers (well, more like Marine Force Recon), however, the training they receive is more on par with the SEALs/SAS. I am loathed to use this as an example, but did you ever see the episode of Deadliest Warrior: Green Berets vs Spetsnaz? Yes, their testing and "simulation" is a complete joke. But with "inferior" equipment that Spetsnaz operator made a complete mockery of the Green Berets in one-on-one testing. If that isn't some decent proof I don't know what is?th3xile said:EDIT: It's mostly known that Russian Spetzsnaz is on par with our Army Rangers, who are blown out of the water by the SEALS. Unless you're using some really weird credentials for what makes one of them the best, in terms of effectiveness, the only competition is between the SEALS and SAS.
The SAS can do the same thing out of a helicopter. Trust me man, I come from a cocky military family that admits this. I have a cocky SEAL relative who even says he wouldn't be able to take a SAS operator.Saltyk said:snip
I'm joining the Royal Marines in a few years, so I'm somewhat obligated to say them.Danzaivar said:SAS are pretty amazing for the guerrila type stuff they can pull off, so I'm gonna say them. Bit biased being British like but still.
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.gh0ti said:"Most elite" isn't really the right way to describe what I think you're asking. Going by toughness of selection processes, then the SAS is right up there, but there's not a lot to choose between them and other highly selective forces like SBS, SEALs, and so on.
In terms of all-round kickass fighting effectiveness though, I would pick the Royal Marines. They tackle a far wider-ranging number of tasks than all of the well-known "special forces", functioning both as a special force and a conventional light infantry brigade. Most of the missions undertaken by SAS (and their ilk) emphasise flight over fight (or shoot-and-scoot, as they call it).
The Royal Marines are the real heavy-hitters in this group. Their training is the longest and toughest in the world and they come with the equipment and expertise required to achieve strategic goals rather than the small scale (if highly valuable and challenging) objectives of traditional special forces.
Then your Cocky SEAL realative isnt really a seal. Period.th3xile said:The SAS can do the same thing out of a helicopter. Trust me man, I come from a cocky military family that admits this. I have a cocky SEAL relative who even says he wouldn't be able to take a SAS operator.Saltyk said:snip
Ahh yes. Joint Task Force Two. It's like if Great Britain and America had a military love-child, who could disassemble and reassemble any firearm while blindfolded at age 7, then proceed to take down 9 targets with 5 rounds, and finish it all off by saying sorry and meaning it. It's good to be Canadian.Shiftysnowdog said:No JTF2 so im gunna go with seals. If any of you brits saw the training Seals go through not one of you would have voted SAS