This is why him as both never really clicked for me, it didnt feel like the character at all. I know that the comic book characters change depending on where you see them the most (for me it was the cartoons, games and for some odd reason the 20 first issues that I actually read of the Ultimate series). He felt like even though he was the typical nerd/geek/looser he could still be a cool guy and be interesting, Tobey was the most boring person alive and Garfield was a punk-ish slacker.Casual Shinji said:Sure, it was a bit Charlie Brown-ish, but I liked that
The Raimi movies haven't aged well, but if there's one thing I'll always praise them for it's getting rid of those dumb web shooters. Now I only ever saw the 80's a 90's cartoon series, so maybe in the comics they were swell, but they never made any sense to me.Owyn_Merrilin said:I didn't like the Raimi movies period. They fell into that early 2000's superhero movie trap of changing things for no reason other than because it was still embarassing to do a live action movie based on a comic book. It wasn't quite as awful as the costumes in the X-Men movies, but it still wasn't my cup of tea. McGuire's Peter Parker was both too mopey and not smart enough (the whole point of the web shooters is to show off how much a technical genius Parker is), and his Spiderman was too brooding/mopey, too. Garfield was a good Peter (He actually knows science! He pulls off small, weedy nerd without coming off like a potential school shooter!) and a great Spiderman.
Part of the premise of Peter Parker is that he's a genius scientist, though. He even got his powers in a lab accident. It's less like your Superman example, more like Iron Man's suit or Batman's gadgets. He's actually had a dayjob as a scientist at various points in the comics, the photography gig was more of a high school job for him.Casual Shinji said:The Raimi movies haven't aged well, but if there's one thing I'll always praise them for it's getting rid of those dumb web shooters. Now I only ever saw the 80's a 90's cartoon series, so maybe in the comics they were swell, but they never made any sense to me.Owyn_Merrilin said:I didn't like the Raimi movies period. They fell into that early 2000's superhero movie trap of changing things for no reason other than because it was still embarassing to do a live action movie based on a comic book. It wasn't quite as awful as the costumes in the X-Men movies, but it still wasn't my cup of tea. McGuire's Peter Parker was both too mopey and not smart enough (the whole point of the web shooters is to show off how much a technical genius Parker is), and his Spiderman was too brooding/mopey, too. Garfield was a good Peter (He actually knows science! He pulls off small, weedy nerd without coming off like a potential school shooter!) and a great Spiderman.
If Peter was such a genuis as to be able to create small wrist bands that could discharge miles and miles worth of cable strength webbing from a cartridge the size of a large pill, why didn't he ever make it before getting his powers, how come he hasn't won the Nobel prize, and why hasn't he ever made more amazing inventions? Or is his genuis just limited to webbing?
It was just something silly ontop of the already silly premise of getting powers from a radioactive spider. The Raimi movies had the decency to just catagorize it under the initial silly premise of spider powers. To me it's like Superman having every power except the power of flight, for which he uses a jetpack that he just conveniently invented.
that's what they all said but tobey was not a good peter parker. the only reason they chose him was because peter is suppoer to be a "loser nerd" even though he was never treated like this. maguire was more of a caricature than a character. just eternally inept despite the power and responsibilityStory said:Someone said this on another thread and I'm just going to shamelessly steal this idea because I think it is right on the money:
Garfield was the better Spider-man and Maguire was the better Peter Parker.
Yeah, but being a scientist isn't the same as being an inventor. Tony Stark is established as a genius with a knack for crafting weapons and machinery which results in him becoming Iron Man, and Batman simply had others make his gadgets for him.Owyn_Merrilin said:Part of the premise of Peter Parker is that he's a genius scientist, though. He even got his powers in a lab accident. It's less like your Superman example, more like Iron Man's suit or Batman's gadgets. He's actually had a dayjob as a scientist at various points in the comics, the photography gig was more of a high school job for him.
You know, I think I agree with that. Which surprises me to no end. I never watched any of the Amazing Spider-man movies because when I saw Andrew playing Peter Parker, I just thought, No. He didn't look like Peter, he didn't act like Peter, he didn't behave like Peter. There was nothing Peter about him in my mind. He looked more like those wannabe loners I always saw in high school, who think they're cool because they keep to themselves. Honest Trailers does a good job of summing up just how wrong I felt Andrew was for the part. Meanwhile Toby did feel, act, and downright look like a Peter Parker to me.Story said:Someone said this on another thread and I'm just going to shamelessly steal this idea because I think it is right on the money:
Garfield was the better Spider-man and Maguire was the better Peter Parker.