Poll: Who would survive?? (A bit more expanded than that, though...)

[Wolfgang Ravenna]

Okay, before you get into fits of rage, I know this question might be a bit like one of those stereotypical, throw back to Fight Club ideas, but hear me out.

We can blather on for ages about who would win in a fight, but the question isn't really about martial prowess (Because, due to my bias, i'd have to pick Shepard). Think about it this way: IF YOU TOOK A CHARACTER OUT OF THEIR GAME WORLD AND PUT THEM IN ANOTHER'S, WHO WOULD BE THE BEST AT SURVIVING ANY OF THOSE UNIVERSES?

It may seem weird to put the Elder Scrolls franchise in there (Although, fashion sense wise, they could fit in well during Human Revolution), but let's think about that for a moment. Let's drop him in the Mass Effect universe, Dovahkiin powers and all. Now imagine what unrelenting force could possibly do to a reaper. Biotics would be hard to put on par with a dragon shout.

Take JC Denton and put him in the Fallout Universe. Would he be able to survive when the only Bio energy he can get comes from volt batteries used to charge energy guns?

Would the Lone Wanderer be able to survive in Minecraft, knowing he'd actually have to mine for minerals to make the ammunition for those weapons?

Would The Player still be the master builder he is in the Mass Effect universe, a world of ceramics, plastics and Eezo.

How would Mario fare in any of these worlds? Would he get depressed in Dues Ex and off himself?

Remember, Surviving isn't just how well one can adapt in a survival skills contest kind of thing: It's about how well you would adapt to the society you're thrust into. Sure, the Dovahkiin could outshout any biotic, but what would happen if they tried to, say, buy food or interact with any technology period? What about space travel? And let's not forget i've included Mario in this poll, so we have to take into account your jumping/macho princess saving abilities into this as well.

If you think there'd be a better candidate to survive in all gaming universes, point out why in the thread below.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I pick nameless hero from the ES because most of them are believed to archived CHIM which is a state of near god-hood which makes them pretty much unkillable and able to warp all reality to their desire.

Tiber Septim was able to turn all of Cyrodil from a dense tropical forest into as it was in Oblivion using CHIM.

CHIM pretty much lets you do anything.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Minecraft guy, as long as he's running Equivalent Exchange.

 

[Fappy]

I pick nameless hero from the ES because most of them are believed to archived CHIM which is a state of near god-hood which makes them pretty much unkillable and able to warp all reality to their desire.

Tiber Septim was able to turn all of Cyrodil from a dense tropical forest into as it was in Oblivion using CHIM.

CHIM pretty much lets you do anything.

This.

Vivec basically implies this in Morrowind through some of his dialogue and his books. When the lore implies that the player character cheating with the console is actually a legitimate strategy then you know you're character is godmode incarnate.

 

[SajuukKhar]

This.

Vivec basically implies this in Morrowind through some of his dialogue and his books. When the lore implies that the player character cheating with the console is actually a legitimate strategy then you know you're character is godmode incarnate.

-Opening the inventory, thus freezing time, to drink a health potion? your character does it with CHIM
-Using the "load Save" menu to reload a game from before you just got killed? Your character does it with CHIM
-Using the creaton kit to modify the game world? Your character does it with CHIM

CHIM is so OP

I think the ES series is the only game series to have canonized its modding tools into lore.

 

[Fappy]

This.

Vivec basically implies this in Morrowind through some of his dialogue and his books. When the lore implies that the player character cheating with the console is actually a legitimate strategy then you know you're character is godmode incarnate.

-Opening the inventory, thus freezing time, to drink a health potion? your character does it with CHIM
-Using the "load Save" menu to reload a game from before you just got killed? Your character does it with CHIM
-Using the creaton kit to modify the game world? Your character does it with CHIM

CHIM is so OP

I think the ES series is the only game series to have canonized its modding tools into lore.

One of the craziest parts about it is the whole "Dragonbreak" idea. I still have a hard time wrapping my head around that. Its a really creative/meta way to explain how things happened the way they did after the events of a game (Daggerfall) that had several different endings. I can only imagine how they came up with that.

"Hey, so what are we supposed to do about Morrowind if so many different things can happen at the end of Daggerfall?"

"We say it all happened."

"WUT?!"

 

[SajuukKhar]

One of the craziest parts about it is the whole "Dragonbreak" idea. I still have a hard time wrapping my head around that. Its a really creative/meta way to explain how things happened the way they did after the events of a game (Daggerfall) that had several different endings. I can only imagine how they came up with that.

"Hey, so what are we supposed to do about Morrowind if so many different things can happen at the end of Daggerfall?"

"We say it all happened."

"WUT?!"

To explain the dragonbreak one must know all the gods are dead, and that each races view on the gods causes the gods power to spawn those views of the gods as a real being

Akatosh and Auri-el are both the dragon-god of time, and are the same being, and have the same power, but they are also separate and fight each other.

What happens in a dragonbreak is a magical power goes up to the dragon gods and re-kills them.

Numidium KILLED Akatosh dead and thus broke time, the jills, the female dragons that mend time, and Akatosh who is dead, fixed time.

 

[Fappy]

One of the craziest parts about it is the whole "Dragonbreak" idea. I still have a hard time wrapping my head around that. Its a really creative/meta way to explain how things happened the way they did after the events of a game (Daggerfall) that had several different endings. I can only imagine how they came up with that.

"Hey, so what are we supposed to do about Morrowind if so many different things can happen at the end of Daggerfall?"

"We say it all happened."

"WUT?!"

To explain the dragonbreak one must know all the gods are dead, and that each races view on the gods causes the gods power to spawn those views of the gods as a real being

Akatosh and Auri-el are both the dragon-god of time, and are the same being, and have the same power, but they are also separate and fight each other.

What happens in a dragonbreak is a magical power goes up to the dragon gods and re-kills them.

Numidium KILLED Akatosh dead and thus broke time, the jills, the female dragons that mend time, fixed time.

I love TES lore.

One of my favorite theories about it the lore is the idea that Sithis is actually just the absence of Lorkhan.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I love TES lore.

One of my favorite theories about it the lore is the idea that Sithis is actually just the absence of Lorkhan.

Actually Sithis is the soul of the primordial force of change Padomey incarnate. Lorkhan is... I don't know the exact words to describe it, but he is basically change, Sithis/Padomey incarnate.

Lorkhan = Sithis = Padomey

Also according to lore writer Micheal Kirkbride Lorkhan is Akatosh and Akatosh is Lorkhan

Much like how space and time are actually one thing in our universe, Space-time, the gods of Space(Lorkhan) and the god of time (Akatosh) are really the same being.

Also
-Talos = Lorkhan
-Sheogorath = Lorkhans creativity
-Shor = Lorkhan
-Tiber Septim, Martin Spetim, and The Divine Crusader from Knights of the nine are all avatars of Lorkhan.

 

[Fappy]

I love TES lore.

One of my favorite theories about it the lore is the idea that Sithis is actually just the absence of Lorkhan.

Actually Sithis is the soul of the primordial force of change Padomey incarnate. Lorkhan is... I don't know the exact words to describe it, but he is basically change, Sithis/Padomey incarnate.

Lorkhan = Sithis = Padomey

Also according to lore writer Micheal Kirkbride Lorkhan is akatosh and akatosh is Lorkhan

Much like how space and time are actually one thing, Space-time, the gods of Space(Lorkhan) and the god of time (akatosh) are really the same being.

That... that hurts my brain.

Silly dwemer thought they could control space-time.

 

[SajuukKhar]

That... that hurts my brain.

Silly dwemer thought they could control space-time.

Well they kinda did, ther were able to make spheres that cut by breaking the earthbones/the laws of physics

So sad that they merged their entire race and became the brass skin of their giant robot Numidium which was destroyed by the Underking.

They will never come back. so sad.

I need to make a Es lore thread with all the crazy ES lore in it.

time travelers, spaceships, robots from the 9th era sent back in time because of the Hist/Jill wars, gods who are other gods who are other gods.

 

[Fappy]

That... that hurts my brain.

Silly dwemer thought they could control space-time.

Well they kinda did, ther were able to make spheres that cut by breaking the earthbones/the laws of physics

So sad that they merged their entire race and became the brass skin of their giant robot Numidium which was destroyed by the Underking.

They will never come back. so sad.

I need to make a Es lore thread with all the crazy ES lore in it.

Yeah you do.

I thought the whole Numidium skin thing was just a theory/myth? It doesn't really explain what happened to that one mage guy at the end of the dwemer College of Winterhold questline when he smacked that soul gem (I think it was a soul gem) with Keening and vanished.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I thought the whole Numidium skin thing was just a theory/myth? It doesn't really explain what happened to that one mage guy at the end of the dwemer College of Winterhold questline when he smacked that soul gem (I think it was a soul gem) with Keening and vanished.

The Dwemer became bound to the nearest divine object which was at the time the Numidium powered by the Heart of Lorkhan

The Dovahkiin carrying the blood of the dragons and being an Avatar of Akatosh that is Lorkhan is divine, which is why that guy became bound to you.

Also the brass skin thing was stated in an offical interview by Bethesda called the skeleton man interview.

 

[Dandark]

I came into this thread and I looked at the ES lore

OT: I wouldn't mind seeing Alex mercer(Prototype) thrust into another universe. It would be very interesting to see how the blacklight virus would react and interact with other things.

I also would be a fan of a Darkness crossover.

 

[Fappy]

I thought the whole Numidium skin thing was just a theory/myth? It doesn't really explain what happened to that one mage guy at the end of the dwemer College of Winterhold questline when he smacked that soul gem (I think it was a soul gem) with Keening and vanished.

The Dwemer became bound to the nearest divine object which was at the time the Numidium powered by the Heart of Lorkhan

The Dovahkiin carrying the blood of the dragons and being an Avatar of Akatosh that is Lorkhan is divine.

Oh, well then.

...

That's fucking creepy. I don't think I ever want to finish that questline ever again D:

 

[SajuukKhar]

I came into this thread and I looked at the ES lore

The Es series IMO has the best lore for a series that is not based off of something else, like NWN being based off of D&D.

It is a series that is designed to be impossible to exist, even under its own rules, were all myths, no matter how contradictory, become real, were entire lands only exist because of belief, i.e Atmora which is really the past Kalpa or universe only exists in the current universe because the Nords think it does, were dead, schizophrenic, gods battle themselves, were robots from a future that may never be travel through time.

were magic hermaphrodite god-kings(vivec) mate with other hermaphroditic Daedra, have kids, then murders his kids with his "spear", I will let you guess what the spear is.

It is madness incarnate.

 

[Rowan93]

I'll pick "other" and say "Karan S'Jet".

Just about all the other settings are mostly on one world, so she can just appear in orbit and dominate everything. Minecraft is weird, but I think the huge onboard factories of the mothership should be at least somehow usable - modify Salvage Corvettes to fly in atmosphere, then proceed to harvest everything and build everything else? Shouldn't be too difficult.

Then there's Mass Effect. Well, being the same size as a reaper and not needing mass relays to jump should be beneficial, at any rate.



Another choice, for similar reasons, would be the Commander from Supreme Commander. Again, only the Mass Effect universe poses a challenge here, although if you let it into any of the actual levels of the game it would redefine "level" on them, then build a tank factory on the ruins - the only real worry is the fleet of omnicidal sapient two-kilometre long dreadnoughts.

 

[Zayle79]

The blank slate PC from TES. Morrowind, to be specific; even disregarding a certain plot twist of the game's main quest, the PC could become a mage, and Morrowind mages can teleport and levitate in addition to the already godlike powers of high-level Destruction, Illusion, and Conjuration spells. Maybe not tough enough to take down a Reaper on his/her own, but certainly enough to blow anything else away from the franchises listed in the poll.

On second thought, the PC can become a god, sort of, in Shivering Isles, so that probably outranks the Morrowind PC. Maybe.

Edit: Now that I think about it, just about any of those characters could survive in any of the other universes (I can't really picture Skyrim bandits killing Adam Jensen, and Mario would love Minecraft for one very obvious and hilarious-to-picture-in-my-head reason), but still, teleportation and levitation are pretty much "win buttons" no matter what universe you're in.

 

[Rawne1980]

Any of my characters from an Elder Scrolls game.

They got so overpowered they were like walking gods. Add to that my awesome looking mod armour.

 

[A Raging Emo]

Either Adam Jensen, because of his implants. The Lone Wanderer (to clarify, the FO1 and FO3 protagonists, because they lived in a Vault their whole lives, and thus, are adaptable); or the Minecraft Guy, because again, the Minecraft Guy is incredibly resourceful and adaptable.