Poll: Who would win? Samus Aran or Master Chief?

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raankh

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Samus! Even without armour (she does kick the Motherbrain's ... ehm, encephalon .. in a one-piece if you complete the NES game quickly enough).
 

Liam Wolfy

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Cmon,Samus for the win, She has many upgrades, she has supermissles, smart, her chozo suit is godlike.
She can travel through beams of light for she can basicly teleport, complete Metroid prime 2 Echoes for this suit.
She could easyily freeze master chief then dimension dark beam his backside to the stoneage, failing thus she could use the plazma beam and he would be an atom or two within seconds.
 

Liam Wolfy

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Cmon,Samus for the win, She has many upgrades, she has supermissles, smart, her chozo suit is godlike.
She can travel through beams of light for she can basicly teleport, complete Metroid prime 2 Echoes for this suit.
She could easyily freeze master chief then dimension dark beam his backside to the stoneage, failing thus she could use the plazma beam and he would be an atom or two within seconds.
 

soladrin

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well, like i said, dont know much about samus, but lets do it like this!

both drop armor and fist fight! i say MC crushes her skull in 1 hit though (read the books, he killed a marine and maimed one before he even finished the spartan program, he was hit on the back with lift weights, he responded with an elbow to the face breaking his neck and the other had a broken spine and couldnt move from the waist down for the rest of his life, they tried picking a fight with him, GG)

well, samus seems to have obvious technology and weapons advantages, but yea MC has the strategy and all, so like its been said before, it just depends on situations, if MC has cortana with her.. who just happened to hijack a covenant flagship (again) and fire that things plasma weapons... samus would be fried, along with half the planet they were on. OR we fire a MAC gun at them :D but yea, im just thinking of halo universe butchering methods....."dwells on in his mind.."
 

J-Val

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Samus would win, as, being a through-and-through heroic American arcehtype, Master Chief would NEVER hurt a lady, especially one who was aesthetically pleasing. He would surrender, and then Samus would slap him so hard that his helmet would snap in half, revealing....

MASTER CHIEF IS A WOMAN!
 

Anton P. Nym

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To my knowledge, the Master Chief has never curled into a ball at the first sign of trouble. (Thieved from the Bungie.net Webmaster, at great personal peril.)

That being said, the obvious winner of a Samus vs. John117 fight would be the shareholders.

-- Steve
 

soladrin

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Anton P. Nym said:
To my knowledge, the Master Chief has never curled into a ball at the first sign of trouble. (Thieved from the Bungie.net Webmaster, at great personal peril.)

That being said, the obvious winner of a Samus vs. John117 fight would be the shareholders.

-- Steve
QFT
 

Katana314

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I actually have to admit that Samus' charge-in mentality could cause problems. Honestly, when in Metroid did you think "WAIT! What if the mother brain laid landmines?" People when a door closes behind Samus, she isn't expecting it.
Well-written argument, danimal. I'm changing my vote.
 

LordOmnit

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Aw, man. Katana got blasted. Shoot.
Well, I still have to note that most of the time, people saying MC would win are giving him enough time to win, while saying Samus would be sitting their picking her nails, waiting for MC to get enough firepower to blow her to oblivion and back and forth. If it was dropped into an arena with what they are normally given, Samus would win. She's got so much more power than him it's painful. If it was dropped into an arena virtally naked with only their fists to duke it out, of course the super soldier program's masterpiece would win. And if it was give MC enough time to turn himself into the villian who's laid a perilous path before his enemies, of course he'd be likely to win then, but I don't think the originator wanted to have it as an MC-is-given-all-the-time-he-wants-to-prepare situation.
 

xbeaker

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danimal1384 said:
Samus has no sense of tactics or stealth, which the master chief excells in both. so while she would be expecting him to charge out into the open like every enemy she's ever experienced has done, he would be 2 kilometers away with mines already planted and a sniper rifle trained on her head. she would end up dead before she ever found out where he was. now i'm not a halo fanboy by any means, in fact i had spent years fighting against it's proclaimed GOD like status. but i'm putting this into a sense of realism, if there can be such a thing given the subject(s) in question.

As for LordOmnit's comment of the size of MC's sniper rifle, in the game, it fires 14.5mm armor piercing, fin-stabalized discarded-sabot rounds. 14.5mm is fucking big. 20mm were used in World War 2 as anit-aircraft guns. and Sabot rounds are full of burning magnesium, which is around 6000 degrees fareignheight. this isn't a small rifle, nor weak by any means. one shot and Samus's environment suit would be bubbly and melting. if she can't go through lava, she can't take sabot rounds, period. the assault rifles in halo fire 7.62mm rounds. i've seen what 7.62mm rounds do to people, it blows them in half, literally.
I really have to contest you here. First off, Samus has as much, or more stealth then Master Chief. She is a bounty hunter first and foremost. Her SOP for combat is the scan her target at a safe distance, assess it?s condition and weak points then attack in a way such to give her the best tactical advantage. Master Chief looks at the old motion tracker and starts shooting in the direction of any blips.

As for the weapons, again, you are way off. Master Chief?s sniper rifle is a Barret M82A1. It is indeed 14.5mm. Also known as a 50 Caliber. The Caliber of the gun more accurately is a reference to the diameter of the barrel though. As the rounds fire from the Barret are the same caliber as those fired from a Desert Eagle pistol. But the cartages themselves are vastly different. It is not as simple as bigger is better. Speed is important and the Barret shells pack a lot of propellant so they can travel long distances with minimal drop off. If he is firing fin stabilized sabot rounds, they are NOT magnesium rounds. Sabot is just a term for a bullet within a bullet. You see the fins could not travel smoothly down the barrel of the gun. So they encase the actual round in a breakaway shell that is perfectly round. That breakaway casing is 50 caliber (half an inch). The sabot inside is much smaller, but can travel a long distance. Just because the A-10 warthog uses magnesium rounds (among many others) in its main cannon which are sabot (the casing in this case to prevent them from igniting with the air before they are fired) does not mean all sabot rounds use it.

You have not seen what 7.62 rounds do to someone. In most cases they leave fairly clean holes. A single 7.62mm round (smaller then a .38, larger then a .22) would do little to you unless it hit a vital organ, or was hollow point anti-personnel. As the rounds MC uses would be designed for armor piercing potential they would be solid, fully jacketed slugs. But firing at full auto they can devastate a target.

Yes, Samus can survive in lava, and pretty much any hostile environment. Longer, I would venture, then even Master Chief could. MC?s tech is 500 years in the future (though his weapons seem surprisingly current day don?t ya think?) Samus? year is probably closer to 1000 years in the future. She has the tech, she has the skills, she has the win.
 

soladrin

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xbeaker said:
danimal1384 said:
Samus has no sense of tactics or stealth, which the master chief excells in both. so while she would be expecting him to charge out into the open like every enemy she's ever experienced has done, he would be 2 kilometers away with mines already planted and a sniper rifle trained on her head. she would end up dead before she ever found out where he was. now i'm not a halo fanboy by any means, in fact i had spent years fighting against it's proclaimed GOD like status. but i'm putting this into a sense of realism, if there can be such a thing given the subject(s) in question.

As for LordOmnit's comment of the size of MC's sniper rifle, in the game, it fires 14.5mm armor piercing, fin-stabalized discarded-sabot rounds. 14.5mm is fucking big. 20mm were used in World War 2 as anit-aircraft guns. and Sabot rounds are full of burning magnesium, which is around 6000 degrees fareignheight. this isn't a small rifle, nor weak by any means. one shot and Samus's environment suit would be bubbly and melting. if she can't go through lava, she can't take sabot rounds, period. the assault rifles in halo fire 7.62mm rounds. i've seen what 7.62mm rounds do to people, it blows them in half, literally.
I really have to contest you here. First off, Samus has as much, or more stealth then Master Chief. She is a bounty hunter first and foremost. Her SOP for combat is the scan her target at a safe distance, assess it?s condition and weak points then attack in a way such to give her the best tactical advantage. Master Chief looks at the old motion tracker and starts shooting in the direction of any blips.

As for the weapons, again, you are way off. Master Chief?s sniper rifle is a Barret M82A1. It is indeed 14.5mm. Also known as a 50 Caliber. The Caliber of the gun more accurately is a reference to the diameter of the barrel though. As the rounds fire from the Barret are the same caliber as those fired from a Desert Eagle pistol. But the cartages themselves are vastly different. It is not as simple as bigger is better. Speed is important and the Barret shells pack a lot of propellant so they can travel long distances with minimal drop off. If he is firing fin stabilized sabot rounds, they are NOT magnesium rounds. Sabot is just a term for a bullet within a bullet. You see the fins could not travel smoothly down the barrel of the gun. So they encase the actual round in a breakaway shell that is perfectly round. That breakaway casing is 50 caliber (half an inch). The sabot inside is much smaller, but can travel a long distance. Just because the A-10 warthog uses magnesium rounds (among many others) in its main cannon which are sabot (the casing in this case to prevent them from igniting with the air before they are fired) does not mean all sabot rounds use it.

You have not seen what 7.62 rounds do to someone. In most cases they leave fairly clean holes. A single 7.62mm round (smaller then a .38, larger then a .22) would do little to you unless it hit a vital organ, or was hollow point anti-personnel. As the rounds MC uses would be designed for armor piercing potential they would be solid, fully jacketed slugs. But firing at full auto they can devastate a target.

Yes, Samus can survive in lava, and pretty much any hostile environment. Longer, I would venture, then even Master Chief could. MC?s tech is 500 years in the future (though his weapons seem surprisingly current day don?t ya think?) Samus? year is probably closer to 1000 years in the future. She has the tech, she has the skills, she has the win.
i think your forgetting halo is 500 years in the future it is NOT a Barret M82A1 and it as said before, books and such help us :)
 

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soladrin said:
i think your forgetting halo is 500 years in the future it is NOT a Barret M82A1 and it as said before, books and such help us :)
Yes, but, at the least, Samus tech is 500 years more advanced than Johnny boy's. And besides, we're all forgetting;
Samus is a girl, and Master Chief would never hurt a women. Well, maybe if it was one of the conspisciously absent Covenant women - just how do the Elites, Brutes etc reproduce? At the least, he would use physical force to restrain her, but he'd never kill a woman. It's just not heroic.
 

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I know it is 500 years in the future. I said so in the last paragraph. And wile it may not be that exact model, it is clearly a very close cousin of it. Take a look at the real weapon vs the one in Halo. Even if we chalk it up to some crazy coincidence, they rest of what I said still fully applies. :)

I admit MC has the upper hand in the Master Chief vs Gordon Freeman debate. That one was fun to debate because there were only a few points that could but Gordon over the top. This one.. Seriously, Samus has it all over Master Chief. Remember Master Chief?s present is Samus? distant past.

Master Chief?s rocket launcher carries 2 rockets at a time? Samus?s carries 90? and they do more then just blow things up, they can pack EMP, freeze bombs, etc. Physical bullets? Samus? basic cannon fires chaged plasma in line with the best Covenant plasma rifle, but her weapons never runs out of ammo, and can be super-charged like the plasma pistols. We aren?t even getting into her advanced gear. In vehicles, her ship can out fly, out maneuver and outgun anything the Spartans or Covenant could throw at her.

I wasn?t even going to bother with this thread (and these are usually my favorite kind of time waster debate threads!) because it seems such an obviously one sided fight. Only if they were both stripped of armor and any weapons could it be a fair fight. But that is silly. I figure these vs scenarios to assume fair and normal conditions.
 

J-Val

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Yeah, you really need people in similar time or position for a fair fight.

Place your bets on next X vs Y thread:

Inspector Tequila vs Max Payne?

Marcus Fenix vs Jack Carver?

Sam and Max vs Jak and Daxter?
 

LordOmnit

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My impression is that it depends upon who you are talking to. I basically assumed that they had any of the particular weapons they can acquire, but are just thrown into some place and told to fight.
Many seem to believe that MC would be given as much time as he wanted to prepare to completely blast Samus, her suit, her undergarments, her ship, her pet, and the very memory of her out of existence or that he has some gun that apparently he does or doesn't.