Poll: Who's better at comedy? Brits or Americans?

[weker]

Everyone on the internet knows things like VS threads are totally subjective

But you see the person I was responding to, did not. This is the problem with a bulletin board. A reasonable person comes along and suddenly what was a point worth making to one person is now, suddenly superfluous.

Well, I am yet to see a reply from him saying "wow you really opened my eyes, and now I know that my humor isn't the same as everyone else, and is different for each person"
My gripe with your previous post is relative still, I moaned that everyone understands this, but they want to "pretend" that there is real evidence for it being "better".

You look across the escapist, most will write "it's just your opinion man" or "it's subjective" but they still have a go at flogging their fav things as better. Have a gander at this thread and you'll see loads of people using words like "better" and "intelligent" without saying imo, and the reasons why... it's because almost everyone knows its just their opinion.

 

[silent-treatment]

Not everything in life revolves around scientific theories and religion. When people are so ashamed of their country that they will just trash anything pertaining to that country, just cause it is from that country? There is an issue, and that is pretty rampant on this site.

It doesn't bother me when people outside the country do it though, I usually just write off their comments. Kind of like your dig at Americans over something that, in the grand scheme of things, means very little. Except I acknowledged it... look a distraction!!!!!

"anything pertaining to that country" I didn't state they hated everything, I was just stating a reason why they might do.

"dig at Americans over something that, in the grand scheme of things, means very little." Would hardly call it little, as it halts progress, and fills fox news viewing figures.
Anything that improves fox news viewing figures, tends to be a bad thing.

Then you and I are talking about two very different people in the first place cause that is what I meant in the first place. You will find a rather large traffic of Americans that will apologize for stupid things on this site. Some things, like dragging the world into multiple wars, I get. It was dumb, and hopefully my generation can fix this. But pay attention next time a "controversial" (come on, you know what threads I am talking about) thread comes up, you'll find um.

I can sympathize with Creationists, a little...okay not all that much, being that one of my friends is a skip jump and one girlfriend away from being one (long story, made more sense in my head). How would you feel if everyone in the world was barreling towards a future that included an idea that literally calls the entirety of your belief system into question? Religion is an important aspect of someone's psyche, people will literally define themselves by and because of it. I do not know you so I will not try to invent a similar situation for you, but how would you feel if someone were trying to rid the world of something you define yourself by? You would be trippin the heck out too. This is when people turn to hack organizations like Fox News and allow men like Glenn Beck, and Bill O'Reilly fill their heads with gross overreactions and misinformation. At least he wont say that they are inherently unenlightened.

I am totally down to continue the conversation, but in PMs. The thread has died, and no point in continuing to waste bump space. On a side note, It be 2 am here and I really do not want to go to work.

 

[thylasos]

British humour would be better if they banned canned laughter (im looking at you otherwise amazing IT crowd!)

It's in front of a live audience, apparently. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd#Production)

 

[TheCrapMaster]

For standup i go for brits, american standup artists just swear to be funny.

Are you joking? One of our most famous stand ups (Seinfeld) doesn't swear at all.

Well i havent watched to much of standup, mostly on comedy central and stuff like that and MOSTLY when there been an american on they have MOSTLY been swearing, like that asian girl "cho" or something. Havent watched alot of her but that i have seen have been alot of swearing in. But now im generalising and pardon if it was upsetting. Might be that i just prefer british standup becuse i like how they talk more.

 

[Ghengis John]

Well, I am yet to see a reply from him saying "wow you really opened my eyes, and now I know that my humor isn't the same as everyone else, and is different for each person"

And how often do people admit that they were wrong, usually? Most people when they see a fight they can not win, simply back away. It takes a big man to fess up to being in the wrong. That requires the prerequisite maturity of course to even recognize it for a fact and even then most people will simply become bitter.

You look across the escapist, most will write "it's just your opinion man" or "it's subjective" but they still have a go at flogging their fav things as better.

And yet you can see that I did not. So what are you wasting my time for? Because you assume that simply because you know something that everyone does? That's a tiresome premise and I don't need you to explain that most people don't scrutinize their speech in casual conversation. I don't believe everyone who excludes a relative statement genuinely takes their position as anything more than their opinion. This person however challenged the notion that the results of an opinion poll should not be taken as proof of a fact and I replied to him primarily because he solicited my opinion on the matter.

If you're wondering why I don't chase down everyone on the escapist and "correct" them, well there you have it. Now please take your war cloud off my door step. If you're holding me accountable for things other people do, these "floggers", then I can't help that.

 

[weker]

And how often do people admit that they were wrong, usually? Most people when they see a fight they can not win, simply back away. It takes a big man to fess up to being in the wrong. That requires the prerequisite maturity of course to even recognize it for a fact and even then most people will simply become bitter.

Yes that is true, but if their not admitting to being wrong, then they still believe their right.

And yet you can see that I did not. So what are you wasting my time for? Because you assume that simply because you know something that everyone does? I don't believe everyone who excludes a relative statement genuinely takes their position as anything more than their opinion. This person however challenged the notion that the results of an opinion poll should not be taken as proof of a fact and I replied to him primarily because he solicited my opinion on the matter.

If you're wondering why I don't chase down everyone on the escapist and "correct" them, well there you have it.

you said it was subjective.

 

[Ghengis John]

Yes that is true, but if their not admitting to being wrong, then they still believe their right.

Yes, and? If somebody doesn't want to listen they won't. Was it wrong of me to try then?

you said it was subjective.

And I still do. But I am also a human being. I understand that not everything is black and white and I don't feel obligated to tell everyone it's subjective unless they ask me what I think. Do you have a point to make of it or are you simply being tiresome for the sake of taking offense at the way I said something?

 

[weker]

Yes that is true, but if their not admitting to being wrong, then they still believe their right.

Yes, and? If somebody doesn't want to listen they won't. Was it wrong of me to try then?

Yes it is, it's pointless and that is why we are having this discussion.

 

[Ghengis John]

Yes it is, it's pointless and that is why we are having this discussion.

I can't think of a more pointless discussion to be having then, but I'll have it with you if you insist if only because your avatar is bizarrely hilarious. Not to change the subject but just what is he holding? A screen full of bees?

Edit: So I was right, but because I did not succeed I should not have tried? I'm sorry I don't accept that and I don't think I ever will. I'm just going to say that up front. If you believe it to be your personal duty to punish me for my sins, be aware that you can talk all day from this point forward and we'll get nowhere.

 

[Odysseous2]

Brits. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

(I'm American)

 

[Zagzag]

Also, Radio 4 makes some really super comedy shows. Bleak Expectations, The Museum of Everything to name but two.

I have to agree with you about the very high standard of Radio 4 Comedy. My personal favourites are Bleak Expectations and the Now Show, but there are many, many, many others that are just as good.

 

[SlickBoy]

you decide.

also why you think that? and any favourites you would like to add.

The plucky little UK vs the huge america/ns. let the war over the atlantic begin!

I think american and british comedy are identical where they are terrible and differ only slightly where they are brilliant; what I am replying to is 'plucky little uk'.

Plucky little UK.

Srsly.

You know, not one hundred years ago, England sat on top of one of the single largest empires this planet has ever known, yes? 'Plucky little' denotes 'perennial underdog.' Like, for example, the Jamaican Bobsledding Team, that can be considered as 'plucky little'.

'Formerly in possession of nearly a fifth of the planet' doesn't really lend itself well to the descriptor 'plucky little', wouldn't you agree?

Yes i agree we british have had the largest empire ever on this planet but that is very much in the past.

If we are talking military terms here, I know probably more than most the size of our force now.
USA 2.5 mil. UK 100k an going down.
However the term "plucky" was implied due to the fact of the small number of population, yet we always have a quality force of troops and/or comedians. USA has about 300m pop compared to the UK's 60m and the british still compete for the amount of comedians and comedy at a quality level.

 

[xvbones]

you decide.

also why you think that? and any favourites you would like to add.

The plucky little UK vs the huge america/ns. let the war over the atlantic begin!

I think american and british comedy are identical where they are terrible and differ only slightly where they are brilliant; what I am replying to is 'plucky little uk'.

Plucky little UK.

Srsly.

You know, not one hundred years ago, England sat on top of one of the single largest empires this planet has ever known, yes? 'Plucky little' denotes 'perennial underdog.' Like, for example, the Jamaican Bobsledding Team, that can be considered as 'plucky little'.

'Formerly in possession of nearly a fifth of the planet' doesn't really lend itself well to the descriptor 'plucky little', wouldn't you agree?

Yes i agree we british have had the largest empire ever on this planet but that is very much in the past.

If we are talking military terms here, I know probably more than most the size of our force now.
USA 2.5 mil. UK 100k an going down.
However the term "plucky" was implied due to the fact of the small number of population, yet we always have a quality force of troops and/or comedians. USA has about 300m pop compared to the UK's 60m and the british still compete for the amount of comedians and comedy at a quality level.

Well, yes, it's also a significantly smaller landmass, but so long as i am splitting hairs here (and I am splitting hairs, here) and arguing literally nothing beyond semantics (luckily, this is the internet where such utterly pedantic actions are celebrated); it's the word 'plucky' I'm having difficulties with.

Apart from that, America has Dave Chapelle, England has John Oliver.

We have Tina Fey, you've got Steven Frye.

We're really about even.

 

[Rubymuto]

Brits. Ross Noble, Frankie Boyle, Steven Fry, Russel Howard, Dara Ó Briain etc.


while its true there is a lot of British comedy and comedians that just arent funny the same is true for American comedy. It all depends on what your after. Personally I love Ross Noble.

Dara O Briain is IRISH can you not tell by the name

I know Dara is Irish, but if you look on his wiki page he is Britian's favourite Irishman. British is not the same as English and includes scotland n wales, Thought it included ireland too but its only Northern Ireland that is considered part of Britian and there's been a lot of Civil conflict because of that. be that as it may, mock the week which is a british show just wouldnt be the same without Dara's hosting, so he can be included in british comedy.