Poll: Why do you hate Nintendo

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Guffe

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I own a WiiU.
I bought it at launch, had enough titles on it and enough ones coming I was interested in, been a very good console for me.
At the moment I am at a bit of a gamingburnout, so not gaming too much at the moment. Waiting for StarFox and next years Zelda release.
The group is very dead at the moment, but I'll advertise it nontheless, in case we'd get some new blood in there.
There's a WiiU Online Multiplayer user group for people interested: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/WiiU-Online-Multiplayer
We discuss games, get eachothers NintendoIDs for possible mashups and eventually try to play a little together.
Pretty dead at the moment though, which makes me sad :,(
 

hermes

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First of all, "hate" is not really the word, more like disdain. I loved them when I was 12, but I found that, when I grew up, they were not interested in growing up with me, instead focusing almost exclusively on the next 12 years old generation. And so, I moved on and never felt guilty about it, since it looked like they moved on to me as well. Incidentally, much of the things that make me feel they are less relevant to me the more time passes on is because they seem extremely reluctant to embrace new technologies.

I do own a Wii U, though. It is the fist Nintendo console I own since the SNES. In a way, it sounds ironic that their adamant attitude toward new technologies and trends makes the Wii U the most unique console of this generation. Not to bash on the PS4 and XB1, but they were built to be not so different to PCs and they don't even see it as a competition, so the Wii U (complemented with a good PC) is the best place for unique experiences you can't get anywhere else.
 

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I don't hate them but I'm not exactly a fanboy toward them these days.

I bought the Wii and the many game drought I had to endure and once I build a pc, I joined the PC league and never come back that is until I get my bro PS3.

I mainly wanted to played games that were on the PS3 or Xbox 360 but Nintendo just canters to the casuals
 

Nimcha

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I think I could care less about Nintendo, but probably not that much. I guess you could almost say I couldn't care less.
 

Aesir23

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I certainly don't hate Nintendo since, like you, they're one of the reasons I'm a gamer today. While there's actually a Wii-U in my home it belongs to my brother and he's the primary user of it but I did own a Wii.

Actually, the Wii is the exact reason I don't have a desire to personally own a Wii-U. It's not that it was a bad console because I had fun with what few games I owned for it but that was the exact problem, I owned few games for it.

Out of Nintendo's first party games my interest primarily lies in Legend of Zelda and Smash Bros. Beyond that the number of games I actually owned for the Wii can be counted on one hand and it's been collecting dust for a long time. I'm just not interested in most of the games Nintendo has had to offer since the Wii launched and so it's just a simple matter of not being in their target audience anymore. The only two games I have been interested in for the Wii-U have been Zombi-U and that new Fatal Frame game that's supposedly being localised so it's another case of "I don't want to pay X amount of dollars for something I'll get so little use out of."

Although after all of the trouble my family had with our 360 (we're on our third and last one) my sister and I have become solely Playstation people when it comes to consoles.
 

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I don't hate Nintendo, it's just that i don't havy any reason to like it either, theres no nostalgia factor for me, the only Nintendo title that i played as a kid was super mario. I would probably pick up a couple of Nintendo's titles to try them out if any were available on my system of choice, but as things are now i don't have enough interest, time or disposable income to spend on a system that would probably end up gathering dust somewhere.
 

McMarbles

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I hate Nintendo because they're almost TOO good.

/s

I don't own a WiiU because I'm strictly a handheld gamer.
 

Casual Shinji

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Because Nintendo killed my dog right infront of me with a rusty spoon when I was 4 years old!

Can you blame me!?
 

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I own a Wii U. It would have been a tougher decision if my brother and flatmate didn't already have a PS4 and PS3 respectively, so I can play whatever I want fairly easily anyway on that front anyway.

On a side-note, while the Wii U sales are fairly low, they're not that far behind the Xbone. It's not a distant third or anything. Not sure where that impression's coming from, or at least why people aren't discussing XBox in the same regard.
 

Johnny Novgorod

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I don't hate Nintendo, I'm just not into their games anymore. I already had my fix with the SNES and the Game Boy.
 

Johnny Novgorod

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Silvanus said:
On a side-note, while the Wii U sales are fairly low, they're not that far behind the Xbone. It's not a distant third or anything. Not sure where that impression's coming from, or at least why people aren't discussing XBox in the same regard.
Because the Wii U had something like a year and a half headstart, and still managed to lose to the Xbox One.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Because the Wii U had something like a year and a half headstart, and still managed to lose to the Xbox One.
That shouldn't be a huge factor now that both consoles have been out for a significant amount of time. Consoles see significant ebbs and flows at specific points, not steady figures, so once those points have passed a numerical comparison is fair. With that in mind the Wii U is not doing particularly worse than the Xbox One.
 

Callate

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Over all, at this point in time, my feelings toward Nintendo are a net positive.

I have a long history with Nintendo. I was born in the mid seventies. When arcade games started creeping into supermarkets, and not just pizza parlors and seedy arcades, Nintendo's games were some of the most vibrant offerings: both colorful and musical, loud bell-like tones advertising the presence of games like Donkey Kong and Mario Bros. to the world. Later, I played the arcade version of Super Mario Bros/ in a bowling alley not far from my elementary school while my parents ran errands; it was one of the most grand and sweeping games that I had ever played, and that the stages were advertised as "worlds" rather than "levels" seemed like more than just hyperbole.

Despite this, I never owned an NES. I occasionally coveted one; there was an enormous demo booth for the systems at a nearby mall. But I owned an Atari 2600 in the eighties, and a Commodore 64 later; the latter was probably better in terms of my long-term education, frankly. No one ever practiced typing on the NES, as far as I'm aware.

Later, two different friends had an SNES and a Sega Genesis. Reading through video game magazines of the time, I began to take a rather dim view of Nintendo. Their licensing fees for cartridges were high, their standards for what they would agree to license often harsh and even seemingly unfair. Accusations of price-fixing didn't help, and the blatant censoring of violence in games like Mortal Kombat seemed to reinforce the idea that Nintendo both distrusted their customers (who they seemed to view as only children) and was more than willing to exploit them to maximize their own profits.

I still played on my friend's SNES, of course, but I didn't covet one of my own (in part because by then I had moved on to PCs, or as they were called at the time, IBM PC compatibles.)

I half lost track of Nintendo for a while as they seemed to stumble over the Nintendo 64 and the Gamecube. At a certain point I began hearing good things about the Nintendo DS and the interesting things Nintendo was doing with touch-screen gameplay. I purchased a DSi, and still have it to this day, a fine companion for long plane trips and a refreshing change of pace residing between the ham-handed controls of many phone and tablet games and the long minutes of loading and title screens of many PC releases.

I first played on a Wii in New Zealand, now the father of a four-year-old girl. It was different; it was a statement that games should be fun, physical, intuitive, social, public. A couple of years later, with my family returned to the United Staes, we purchased one for Christmas, in part convinced that the array of dance and exercise games meant that it could be a net positive to our household.

My daughter is soon to be a teenager, and she has a 3DS which is hers alone. We have a Wii-U, mostly used for watching Netflix, though we still play on it together as a family. Nintendo has made its share of mis-steps in the current generation, for sure- but it's still possibly the best system for a family or group of friends to gather around to play on together.

As I said elsewhere, Nintendo's stance on Youtube videos bothers me. And I wish they would figure out how to make the whole third-party software thing work for them; between the Wii's shovelware and the Wii-U's abandonment by most of the AAA publishers, it seems to be something big N just can't quite get to work.

But on the other hand, Iwata refused to downsize loyal employees to appease the bean-counters. And Shigeru Miyamoto is possibly the genius of the medium; while the Wrights, Molyneuxs, Camaracks and Romeros have all had significant stumbles and mis-steps, Miyamoto just keeps making games, keeps moving forward. Even on systems that were arguably themselves failures, his work continues to shine.

So I hope they can carry on; better yet, that they can mostly ignore the pressure of twerps like Pachter to follow the crowd into the mouth of micropayment-dominated game play and shallow social media tie-ins. I don't think it's an exaggeration to suggest that even if you aren't yourself a Nintendo "fan", per se, you should still recognize that their presence on the market, their way of doing things, is a positive force in the competitive and creative arenas, just in showing that there's more than one way things can be done.
 

Ishigami

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No I won't buy a Wii U or any Nintendo product for that matter in the foreseeable future.
My last console from Nintendo was the GameCube. I?m done with Nintendo and therefore ignore Nintendo for the most part.
 

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Christ_1989 said:
For what it's worth could we please aim to keep this discussion civil and respect each others views.
Didn't you just say the headline was intended to be inflammatory? Seems like a really bad move if your goal is civil discussion.

But what the hell.

So the general question I'm curious about is why at one point in time you thought that you needed to buy/own a Wii but don't have these same feelings towards the Wii-U ?
I never thought I needed to buy a Wii. In fact, I was sort of reticent to do so. There's a limited number of Nintendo franchises that interest me, and only a couple don't appear on the Nintendo handhelds. Combined with a track record of terrible third-party support, and I might have given the Wii a pass, except I saw a potential in it for the Rock Band-style party peripheral. And the fact that I'm using the latter to describe the former despite the former coming out first tells you how successful that was. Though for a while, the novelty of the Sports disc worked.

And the funny thing is, when people try and sell me on the Wii/Wii U, they try and sell me with things I don't care about. It's absolutely clear to me that the Wii/U is not aimed at me, and they probably don't care that I'm not buying. Except, of course, that they're a multinational corporation trying to push through sales projections. It probably shouldn't matter to Nintendo fans, either. Of course, it does, for reasons that never cease to evade me.

But the Wii U doesn't even really have the party vibe, or the "catch you friends doing dorky things with a controller and put it on YouTube" novelty. It has maybe 4 games I like the idea of, at least one is coming to 3DS, and I'm not sure the others could justify the sale. Hell, the only reason I have a PS4 is because I have friends who I know will never buy/build a gaming PC, and this way I get to play with them. It's also the reason the 360 is still my primary console. If that was the case with the Wii/U, I might be playing GTA on one of them. But that's not going to happen. I doubt I could get any of my friends into Splatoon over Black Ops 3, no matter how fun and novel the concept looks.

So I've got Nintendo handhelds for my Pokémon fix, the occasional top-down Zelda, a Mario game or two, and the upcoming Hyrule Warriors port. That's basically all I care about, and Nintendo's done a poor job at making me care about anything else. But that's cool. I'm not their audience. Nor do I have to be.
 

Barbas

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Please don't make deliberately inflammatory or provocative thread titles to grab people's attention. That is not necessary to start a discussion.