Something being nuked 200 years ago has very little relevance. There is no way in hell there would still be mess lying around for that long.Ultratwinkie said:Since when was London nukedSillyBear said:Nope, it doesn't make sense. London was a war torn city too but that didn't make every one's house look like it has mold growing out of the walls. It didn't make every single piece of clothing dirty. People didn't just leave pieces of rubbish lying around for 200 years after.Ultratwinkie said:You need to remember that its a war torn area. California doesn't have constant war, and has benefits Nevada does not. It only became a viable locale recently, and even then it would take a level of support the NCR cannot give due to political reasons. Even Mr House said he repaired the strip as best he could on such short notice. It takes time and certain conditions for things to improve.SillyBear said:Even in New Vegas it was an issue though. Still scrap lying around everywhere, unused houses, etc, etc. No way would it stay like that for 200 years.Ultratwinkie said:Actually society has been around for just a century. In 2242 the NCR was a major player, with other societies vying for control. The NCR has replicators, old world clothing extruders, nuclear reactors, newly built buildings with all the stuff old world houses had, etc.SillyBear said:I LOVE Fallout.
The only thing I don't love about it is a few problems in continuity. Like the fact that after 200 years society has barely rebuilt. Fallout 3 was fantastic, but the wasteland was unrealistically chaotic. I guess you can argue that humanity is rotten to the core and "war never changes" but come on - houses are still just lying there in wreck? No one bothered to clean anything up?
I dunno, it just doesn't make much sense to me. But I LOVE it!
Society did rebuild, but its restricted to California. Why? California (and the west coast) was the center of innovation and had many research stations. Fallout 3 however disregarded all technology and progress that the fallout world had, so you're right on that.
It's all down to restrictions with the engine, and stylistic choices. There is no logic there.
When was London attacked daily by an organised army? From July to October of 1940. Tokyo is another example, as is Darwin and as is Berlin.Ultratwinkie said:and had a band of highly organized armies regularly attack things on a daily basis?
So in 200 years war never subsided anywhere throughout the Mojave? Nonsense. Tokyo of 1946 looked in a better state than DC and New Vegas, and that was only a year after the war. In fallout this is 200 years after the war.Ultratwinkie said:If the war doesn't subside, nothing gets repaired beyond basic needs much like water.
Even if war didn't subside, why is everything filthy and grimy? I'm fairly certain people would still clean their houses and furniture.
So people lost the ability to clean windows, walls and clothing? Interesting.. that explains why nearly every object of those categories in the game is putrid.Ultratwinkie said:Power however is limited to generators due to damage in the electrical grid. You must also realize supplies and knowledge of how to repair things is also limited.