Poll: Why does everyone hate ME3 so badly?

[Bat Vader]

See, here's the thing, PROVE IT?

See the problem, the problem is that there is no PROOF that everything has turned for the better. As much as you WANT to believe there is (It doesn't help that the tone of the game was explicitly darker.) There is no guarantee. I don't need a day to day Rundown, but at-least during the credit, SHOW these populations rebuilding, show that our choices in the game actually MEANT Diddly Squat.

First rule of Storytelling

Show, don't tell.

See, here's the thing, prove that it doesn't happen.

The stargazers at the end of the game show that civilizations do carry on in a post-relay galaxy.

given the themes of the series and the stargazers existence, there is more evidence that they did, then they didn't.

One thing I don't understand is how did the old stargazer know what Shepard did when he/she met the catalyst? Shepard was the only one up there and if he/she died how would anyone else know what Shepard and the catalyst talked about? I liked how Bioware ended Dragon Age: Origins with telling you what happens as a result of the choices you made. I was hoping they would have that in Mass Effect 3 at the end.

 

[Tahaneira]

I personally think the game is amazing. Up until the ending/s. I feel dissatisfied by the end, but up until that last cutscene, I thought the game was great. It still is great. I just probably won't finish it again anytime soon.

And yes, this is one of the few games I would support a changed ending for. In my opinion, it's the only major stain on the experience.

And not enough Tali.

Don't judge me.

Even though you totally should.

 

[SajuukKhar]

One thing I don't understand is how did the old stargazer know what Shepard did when he/she met the catalyst? Shepard was the only one up there and if he/she died how would anyone else know what Shepard and the catalyst talked about? I liked how Bioware ended Dragon Age: Origins with telling you what happens as a result of the choices you made. I was hoping they would have that in Mass Effect 3 at the end.

If you do specific things after the ending is over you see Shep buried in debris and then he moves.

 

[Ravnican]

What are you talking about? The game is awesome, easily my favorite of the trilogy... well, except for the ending. I won't go back to that because I have run out of booze.

 

[ecoho]

ok so i beat the game yesterday and have been thinking about the ending since then and heres what ive thought. The ending was "ok" but i wish they would have given you a paragon/renigade choice to do a third option were you can get a combination of both endings and well do as garuss sugested at one point

now i must say the ending is not bad per say just not fully thought through, well thats my 2 cents anyways.

 

[xdj220]

Too bad it has been proven that bioware didnt lie about the DLC.

Nice try though.

Source? Proof? The files talked about are more than placeholders, they are full data files.

 

[Bat Vader]

One thing I don't understand is how did the old stargazer know what Shepard did when he/she met the catalyst? Shepard was the only one up there and if he/she died how would anyone else know what Shepard and the catalyst talked about? I liked how Bioware ended Dragon Age: Origins with telling you what happens as a result of the choices you made. I was hoping they would have that in Mass Effect 3 at the end.

If you do specific things after the ending is over you see Shep buried in debris and then he moves.

Is that after completing New Game + or is that getting over 5000 points for war assets?

 

[SajuukKhar]

Source? Proof? The files talked about are more than placeholders, they are full data files.

source? proof? That it was finished before the game came out and that is why they could put it on the disk.... ohh wait.... there isn't any, just that they put some of the completed data on the disk to allow for easier integration.

That is how DLC is made, the files we see on the game disk are the few files that were completed before the game was done, from the DLC's pre-production and early production stages, that they were able to put on the disk for easier integration. The DLC wasn't finished however till AFTER the game had hit certification.

Also if you look the files we do see
-Animation files are things that they copy pasta from one squadmate to another and alter them slightly for each squadmates specific skin.
-Squadmate banter, and dialog in general, is usually done early on in the dev process also.

Those are the EASIEST things to get done and probably took less then a couple days allowing them to be put on the disk so that you had to download less later.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Really? So far all you've offered are convoluted theories that require you to make up wild assumptions to fill in the gaps in the game's logic.

All the game offers is a crap ending, that ruins the "choice matters" theme of the games and undermines everything that you had accomplished with a "this was all a story told in the far, far future, hundreds of years later" ending.

the choices mattered part only applied to your decision effecting how what war assets you would get in Me3, peoples belief that you could get all these diffrent endings with little text pop-ups telling you what happened to who is somethign the fans made up along with the dreams of thier space waifus.

secondly the stargazer was recounting the events that had happened in the past, it wasn't just a story.

 

[xdj220]

Ok, so your proof is a chart showing something irrelevant that I already knew, and speculation as to what happened based on what Bioware said in spite of having no evidence. Right.

Oh, apparently you can also add the DLC squadmate to your crew by editing one line in an .ini file without the DLC installed, and it will work fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRRpGlmtws8

 

[VanTesla]

Pretty much what the subject line states. To clarify, although there are problems and fan rage for things like the Tali's face = stock photograph incident that I completly agree with, for the most part I am really enjoying Mass Effect 3 and cannot wrap my head around all of the ungodly amounts or rage. Enlighten me

Edit: Sorry this is my first forum posting and apparently I did horribly with the poll

2: Fixed it

To me the ending ruined what could have been one of my favorite games of all time... None of your choices you made before truely matter in the end and the three endings are all copy and paste the same mostly... So a game that promotes choice boils down to three endings that has no bearing on what you did before hand and makes many contradictions about the Reapers and a huge plot hole... Spoiler about Shepard

Spoiler

He dies in all but one ending if you had high resources, and some people think that he was dreaming the whole thing aka indoctrination by Harbringer after he was hit by the beam. So Bioware can sell the actual endings later on... I am fine if Shepard dies and all, but the whole ending makes little sense and like I said before makes mostly all your choices up till then completely meaningless...

 

[Terminate421]

I don't "hate" Mass Effect 3, its a great game with a great story but I do have to say the ending was not up to par.

The problem was it felt so limited and with little accomplishment from my past choices.

 

[Matt King]

best game i have ever played, until the very last scene

 

[StriderShinryu]

Great game from start to finish. The ending wasn't anywhere near as bad as some people say it is, though it could certainly have been longer, and there were a few more very minor technical issues than in the previous games, but the issues don't comprimise the overall experience. One of the very very few games I started a new save file on the second I finished the first.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

Because it is cool nowadays to appear to hate something that everyone else loves... I'ts 'individual'!

Remember when you were a kid, and the new super mario came out, and it was goddam flawless... there was nothing wrong with it at all! (Even though the graphics sucked, when you ran fast you blurred for some reason, and it was goddam nails in places because the game cheats, but noone complained about that!)

Nowadays people expect too much of things, and forget to take them as they are! Meanwhile crap games get released and sidelined without any hate what so ever!

 

[Jandau]

Mass Effect 3 is stuck as the latest victim of the clash between the gaming community and the publishers.

On one hand, the game is good. Exactly how good might be debatable, but I'm more than halfway through it and it is objectively a good game. It might not be to everyone's tastes, but it looks good, plays good, sounds good, the writing is solid thus far, there's emotional impact, there are interesting characters, there are varied setpieces, pretty much every character and story line from the first two games makes an appearance and gets some closure, etc. The game itself isn't a problem.

However, on the other hand, EA/Bioware's actions surrounding the game have not been well recieved. From Ashes day1 DLC, Tali's Face, 1000000 tiny pieces of DLC, that Chobot chick, etc. All this means that there are a lot of people out there raging more than they probably should have and trying to lash out against these percieved injustices (which may or may not be actual injustices, that's open to debate) by badmouthing the game, hating it, review-bombing it, and so on and so forth.

It's not the first game to suffer this and it won't be the last (Diablo 3 is shaping up to be one as well). Good games getting shit tossed at them because of the actions of the publishers.

 

[Dark Prophet]

I'm kinda sad , I really like ME and ME2 despite the Mako handeling like big dog in a bouncy castle and some of the side stuff being just talk talk run talk talk in ME and the fucking probing, gearsofwary combat and fewer rpg bits in ME2 and I would probably got over the whole origin thing and the dlc but in the end all that matters is the end.