Poll: Why does everyone seem to hate Micheal Bay?

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Squilookle

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Look, he's got potential, he always did, I actually loved 'The Rock' to bits and thought 'The Island' was really interesting -until they broke out- my main beef with him is his total lack of self control. His action sequences lately get so caught up with an attitude of 'look at this scene- everything's exploding! isn't that COOL!' at the cost of decent dialogue and us knowing what is going on. Sure if we were there it would be hectic, hard to keep track of, but we're NOT- we're relying on the camera angle to tell us this story- there's sure as hell no other way we'll get to see it. That's why I hate Quantum of Solace. If someone else was in charge of camera and editing, that film might have been half decent.

Another thing is he does all the same gimmicky tricks all the time. Most people especially hate the 'zoomed in just a bit too far to see what's happening till it's over' thing, but the one that stands out the most for me is whenever someone's driving a car above the speed limit (or flying a plane or any other vehicle) and they have to be seen saying something, the camera is literally waving all over the goddamn place so their face is a blur all over the damn screen. Films like Star Wars and Ronin have shown that you don't lose any intensity of a situation if the driver/pilot is shown with a fixed camera, so why the hell does Bay keep doing it?

Just watch the car chase in The Rock and see the bit where Sean Connery is driving that Hummer, and is surprised by the car phone going off. There's no dialogue, the music even knows to get a bit softer so we hear the ringing clearly, but the camera still waves all over the shop like the Hummer has no tyres on a cobbled street.

It's just such a shame that when he actually tried to do something a bit deeper and more meaningful with 'The Island', he couldn't help himself and halfway through resorted to his nonstop chase ways. People didn't like that one bit, but you know what his Rep said when asked why it didn't sell? 'The movie title was misleading, because audiences never got to see an island' Oh. My. God. Now he'll think THAT'S what's wrong, and will keep everything else just the same as always. Damn you Michael Bay!
 

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I'm sorry, but I think people are just going about this the wrong way.

Igf you go to a Micheal Bay movie expecting deep characters, deep plot, or any other kind of depth really, you're going to be dissappointed.

However, if you going expecting a testosterone-fueled action flick with lots of massive explosions, cool weapons, more explosions, inclusion of one or more attractive females,just enough plot to have it kinda-sorta make sense, and a few more explosions, you'll come out pleased.

Incidentlly, I nominate Micheal Bay to do the Halo and Gears of War movies.





And I'm looking forward to Revenge of the Fallen and District 9 as well.
 
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I haven't liked anything Michael Bay did. All Transformers needed was the usual CGI and action, but instead it was riddled with pointless dialogue and product placement. The entire film seemed to take a backseat to the romantic sub-plot.
You know what I didn't pay good money to see? Ten story tall robots sneaking around a residential area while some boy I have no interest in is being lectured about masturbation by his parents.

- "Do you want a piece of me?"
- "No, I want TWO!!11!!one!1"
 

Ossum

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Michael Bay on making films:

"Everything explodes! Roll credits, get paid."
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I dont like his movies but he is good at the hugely over done action scenes and thoes can be enjoyable so I suppose I have to vote yes
 

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AstorSapolsky said:
You know what I didn't pay good money to see? Ten story tall robots sneaking around a residential area while some boy I have no interest in is being lectured about masturbation by his parents.
Hey, at least Ironhide finally learned why every time he lubricates his tertiary drive piston, his head gasket blows and his ball bearing races go slack.
 

JK3600

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Wow its alot more mixed than I thought. I just went to see Transformers to see giant robots fighting. the rest of the plot I really didnt much care for.
 

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Ossum said:
AstorSapolsky said:
You know what I didn't pay good money to see? Ten story tall robots sneaking around a residential area while some boy I have no interest in is being lectured about masturbation by his parents.
Hey, at least Ironhide finally learned why every time he lubricates his tertiary drive piston, his head gasket blows and his ball bearing races go slack.
That was a little disturbing
 

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I think Transformers was great.

Perhaps because I'm a 15 year old male, and explosions and giant robots grab my attention like nothing else.

He may not be the best "storyteller" out there, but his action sequences (the majority of most of his movies) are simply amazing.
 

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quiet_samurai said:
I thought Transformers was good, and I don't care what anyone says I liked The Island, and Bad Boys 1 & 2. How does liking giant explosions make you lame or gay?
no one said it made you gay, if it wasent for the fact that he is bullshit i might have said
freudian slip?
 

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I dislike Micheal Bay because he plots so poorly. I know, I know, someone else (probably several some elses) writes the script, but Mr. Bay can't seem to organize things to make much sense. To make it worse, the movies are too long, and taken with the first, lead to convoluted messes with too much "stuff" happening, but not enough plot movement. Explosions, dialogue, or explanations, it's all chaotic spectacle. He needs to focus.

Transformers is a good example precisely because it isn't all explosions. We went to a movie to watch giant robots blow stuff up, and got treated to Shea's girl problems. Why? Would it have been such a stretch to be (for instance) about military guys tilting the odds in the fight between good and evil? That was a theme in the movie and it could've been better explored. Instead we get a terribly predictable and tedious love-interest story that could've been left on the cutting room floor. And lecturing about violence by beings that wrecked their world so badly that not even robots can live there? I'd rate this movie up a notch had Shea called Optimus on that.
 

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I enjoyed Transformers even though all along I was thinking, "I coulda done better."
I'm really skeptical about Transformers 2 though.
 

JK3600

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Being a 17 teen year old male it helped that the female lead was amazingly hot.
 

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I think the problem I have with most of Michael Bay's films is that have gotten so bloody formulaic. Good guy + Hot chick + Something exploding + Something destroyed + Guy and chick make out + Villain disappears = Profit! and Sequel profit!

Also, he has such an ego on him, that he thinks he makes the best bloody movies ever, and I would love to walk up to his face and tell him "Your movies are on the same level as viral videos where some teen gets smacked in the nuts." Sure security would beat the shit out of me, but it would be worth it.
 

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The only Michael Bay film I saw was Pearl Harbour and I was filled with pathos until I felt the need to relieve myself.
He seems to be mainly about special effects, too.
A very apt example of what is wrong with today's creators of movies.
Honestly, watch Tora! Tora! Tora! for a good Pearl Harbour movie.
 

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TaborMallory said:
The Transformers movie sucked. Take that, fanboys.

Of course, it wasn't simply because of Michael Bay's (questionable) take on directing. It's only because I dislike ridiculous movies. This includes any and all super hero movies.
wow you must be a really boring movie date.

anyway I like Micheal's special effects, transformers was awesome.
 

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I only saw Transformers. Every 10 minutes there was something so mindbogglingly stupid, that I couldn't believe it got into the final cut of the film. The product placement was annoying. The ending was terrible.
The villain gets the MacGuffin. Getting the Macugufin kills him.

I haven't seen the Island but it's often cited as one of the worst uses of product placement.
 

Abedeus

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"- We need ideas how to deal with those terrorists.
- Eighteen-wheeler, driving on full speed, and then WHOOOM!!! And an exploding building going ROOOOAAAR!!!
- No, no, these aren't new ideas! These are special effects!!
- ...I don't see the difference.
- I know you don't. Guards, take him away."

But his movies are pretty good.
 

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I really like 'The Rock', I think it is the best movie he's directed. I like 'The Island' as well.