Poll: Why I think Call of Duty is Poisoning Video Game's Image (besides the fact that i don't like it).

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Nueemann

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TheLefty said:
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TinCynic said:
So COD is bad because it's popular?
And the game is not responsible for those retarded mongrels who prejudge games. That's their own retard fault. The story, well can't argue there.
I'm not saying it's bad because it's popular, I was saying that it's a bit too popular, and it's diluting other good games. If you want me to talk about why it's a bad game that's a completely other topic.
How can a game be too popular. So lots of people enjoy it despite its flaws, however big or small they may be. So what?
It's diluting other games, how so.
Maybe I'm making too big an assumption for the rest of the world, but where I live (New Hampshire, USA) the pain has mad a pretty big impact, and has become a painful stereotype. I once had a conversation with a kid in my school, a while I said said something about how I like videogames, and this kid asked me how many time's I've prestiged. This is what I'm talking about, how it's just assumed that if you play games you love Call of Duty.

As for diluting other games, I'm saying that other great games that fall in a similar category, Bad Company 2 for example, are getting passed up or ignored, because people are content with Call of Duty. Now it sounds like I'm saying that's the end of the world, but that's not what I mean, I'm just saying that when people are talking about COD, and I reply with a "Bad Company 2 is better" only to be insulted for my choice, it's not exactly the best of condition the industry could be in.

Once again though, maybe it's just where I live, and I assumed it's a more wide spread phenomenon.
No, I'm pretty sure it's more widespread. After all, it's the same fucking story where I live. (The middle of nowhere in Canada.) I used to be one of the few people (Like six or seven I believe.) at my school who were well known as Gamers, now everyone thinks that if you play video games it's fucking Call of Duty. make no mistake, I enjoy the game, I play it a fair amount, but I hate the first thing people ask me (Being known as a gamer for a while.) being "How many times have you prestiged?" or "What's your K/D?" Hell, I heard two guys talking about getting a Chopper Gunner and almost reaching a Nuke, and those two used to laugh at me for playing video games.
 

Chipperz

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Meh, everyone here's moved on to Red Dead Redemption, and that's mainly people who are just waiting for Cataclysm. Modern Warfare 2 has calmed down.

Besides, by your logic, if these same people came in and saw my Wii library (which is currently both No More Hero's and MadWorld), they'd assume that the Wii is specifically designed to show people the proper way to torture people to death, and people just aren't that stupid.
 

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Honestly, I have no problem with MW2 (or any current era shooter/tactical shooter). The problem I *do* have is the people who take it to an extreme. You know the ones I'm talking about. They own MW2, a copy of Battlefield BC 2, and a few of the Tom Clancy games, and it makes them a certified gunsmith. Yes, it's great you can point out ballistic specifications. Yes, it's great that you know which tactical accessory can be switched between which weapons. The type of person who can recite ballistic information to the 1000th decimal place but have never even been in the same room as a firearm irritate me to no end. Sure, S&W 500 and a DE50AE may be near ballistically identical (using this as example--ballistically, the S&W is ballistically superior, in some aspects), but can you really hold onto either one while sending a full magazine/cylander down range? Perhaps this particular .40 cal has a better handgrip and balance than the .45 cal that you're thinking of, thus a better option for accuracy...

Just my single, raw pet peeve with shooters. :D
 

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I have to admit I was disappointed that CoD MW 2 became the top-selling game in gaming history. I didn't want THAT to be the shining example for video games. Then again... it's not like Twilight: New Moon (the film with the biggest opening weekend ever) is a shining example for movies.
God, I read that and idly wondered what would happen if they released 'Twilight' video games. Crossbeams everywhere would feel the swing of human bodies and the tight grasp of nooses.

Ugh... someone please make it so that that never happens.

As for CoD, I enjoyed the Modern Warfare titles and it seems like you're hating on them because you wish people would pay more attention to the games you like. Unfortunately, industry (especially this industry) doesn't work that way so until the craze passes, I think you should just try and grin and bear it with a little dignity.
 

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Cheesus333 said:
As for CoD, I enjoyed the Modern Warfare titles and it seems like you're hating on them because you wish people would pay more attention to the games you like. Unfortunately, industry (especially this industry) doesn't work that way so until the craze passes, I think you should just try and grin and bear it with a little dignity.
Obviously MW2 was going to be popular from the get-go. I just wish it wasn't so popular that non-gamers take it as a representation of gaming. I would prefer that a well made, well written game that wasn't all about unbalanced multiplayer, 12 year old rage quits and griefing was the representation of gaming.

Just like I hate how Halo represents the 360 for a lot of people.
 

TPiddy

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Not to mention, the inevitable flood of clones, rip-offs and imitators that are sure to come out seeing the success of this one.
 

TheLefty

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Lord Mountbatten Reborn said:
TheLefty said:
Maybe I'm making too big an assumption for the rest of the world, but where I live (New Hampshire, USA) the pain has mad a pretty big impact, and has become a painful stereotype. I once had a conversation with a kid in my school, a while I said said something about how I like videogames, and this kid asked me how many time's I've prestiged. This is what I'm talking about, how it's just assumed that if you play games you love Call of Duty.
But, New Hampshire's supposed to be smarticals! Have I been deceived by The West Wing?
The adults...maybe...teenagers have a wide range.
 

Gethsemani_v1legacy

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This reminds me of how White Wolf roleplayers (most notably Vampire-players) used to whine about how everyone always associated roleplaying with Dungeons & Dragons. Personally, I don't see what the big problem is. It is always a good thing that your obscure hobby is getting some widespread recognition.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Are you mentally fucking retarded or something.
There really is no need to be so rude, surely you can make your point without using insults.
Yeah and how are you not put on probation for this? I saw some guy the other day got busted for putting 'meh', which is frankly pathetic.
They can't get probation if no-one reports it, chances are the 'meh' post got reported a few times but this one hasn't, even though it's twice as offensive.
 

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I don't see a question to go along with the poll, but assuming if it is 'Do you agree?' and I'm gonna say no. I like CoD games, they have pretty good stories, everything works and sure the XBL community isn't great but the mute function more than makes up for it.

I did notice you think people who like popular games are jerks .... that seems a little unfair, games are popular for a reason.
 
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I don't truly understand all the hate for CoD. I have been playing since Finest Hour and I have always enjoyed them. I like to think I am a good player and I help my team. I just hate the other people on there but Call of Duty isn't the only game where idiots and ass holes are. Even playing Left 4 Dead 2 I end up with people who barely understand how to play the game. Don't blame CoD for being the most popular game. If the player count is higher you are more likely to have more people you don't like playing with. But the goal is to still enjoy the game without other people ruining it for you
 

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I believe that CoD like all other games has its place; many of the players are the whiny prepubescents that would otherwise be clogging up games such as Bad Company 2(which is awesome). As this is the largest portion of the games industry at the minute it seems reasonable to conclude that CoD is "poster boy" for the industry.

But is it really all that bad? The benefits are clear. I'm simply thankful that games such as Manhunt and GTA aren't getting huge press reels anymore and advertising how violent and destructive games are. CoD doesn't give gaming that bad a wrap as it is.
 

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Gameplay in MW2 is beautifully fluid. No other FPS feels quite so natural as it does, at least not to me. The weapons are all pretty much the same thing, save for a few with out-of-control recoil. There's not really any issues with balance. Almost all of the bugs and glitches have been patched. These are the things I like about CoD.

Perks are silly and nonsensical (Why does being a Ninja make my heart stop beating?). There's a lot of things in it that simply do not exist (Why does the other team have the ability to detect my heartbeat to begin with?). There is way too much shit flying around in the air, shooting at me, for me to be able to focus on figuring out where that sniper shot came from. The knife is a viable main weapon. These are the things I do not like about CoD.

I'm on the fence. I can't decide whether to hate this game or not. But it is superior to most other FPS titles out there, has the most players, and can be fun when you're not dealing with lag or general jack-assery (which will always be present in every online multiplayer game that grants people any amount of freedom). Yes, this game has probably fucked with the industry a bit. But it has also delivered some unique and desirable qualities that most people like to see in a game. These are qualities that many other developers have failed to mirror. They are the things that set this game apart as the best in its genre.
 

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Seems we have a case of a rather flimsy argument here. If you are to post a contravertial thread its very important to get your wording right, "poisoning video games image" is very different to "diluting the industry" to "being too popular and therefore overshadowing lesser known titles" all of which have been mentioned in this thread. So, to put it to rest, lets examine each one of these things in turn.

1. To say it Call of Duty as a franchise is posioning video game's image seems a bit odd, since for the most part its shooting nazis, and when its not shooting nazis its shooting terrorists. Nazis and terrorists have long since been the bedrock of things to kill in both video games and films so this holds little weight.

If we are to say that it gives the impression that "every gamer is a Call of Duty fan" yes this can often seem the case from the outside, simply because its the most sucessful franchise at present, what with MW2 breaking various records. Though, not too long ago a little game called Halo came out on the Xbox and as I recall, every gamer was a Halo fan, right up until 3 which is still the (2nd?) most played xbox 360 game out there.

2. "diluting the industry" is perhaps a more relevant reason, and one I do agree with to an extent. Due to Modern Warfare's vast pulsating popularity it has meant that in an effort to make a near-popular game other game designers have made modern wafare-esq games with their own little twist. Nothing so in your face as modern guns/terrorists (though there are some, Bad Company 2's single player for instance) but in more subtle ways: regenerative jam on your face, fast and light character though still claiming "realism". That last one is probably a little unfair no one ever complained that Unreal runs along at 100 miles an hour with a pin point accuracy zero recoil rocket launcher ;) but I love it. However, the hide behind a box until you wipe the jam off your face is par for the course, rendering many games rather... unimaginative, so this I will grant you.

Addendum: There is a reason for this however, its because its good fun. Popular things are popular for a reason. If it works, why not emulate it? why not make a hundred games with higher and higher production values because no one ever gets tired of *boom headshot!*

I digress... Tremble puny earthlings soon my mighty race will destory you all! *ahem* sorry.

3. I have already covered popularity so I will just touch on overshadowing. The games industry is so huge and diverse I don't really think this is the case. Bad Company 2 is a superb game, and its never difficult to find a server to play multiplayer. So does it really matter if everyone around you prefers MW? Its a different experience. If your friends don't want to try BF, that's their problem, all you can do is ask them to consider an alternate game. You must not fall into their ways of thinking, "Bad Company is superior, MW2 is rubbish!! because this makes you as bad as them. Further, considering the slew of FPS on the horizon, it doesnt look like Call of Duty is dominating at all. F3AR is around the corner and Crysis 2, both excellent long standing series. Halo Reach of course, then a new IP, Rage which has dominated critics attentions at E3 overshadowing even Black Ops. Infact, though it is clear Black Ops is a quality title, it has become so obvious that the Call of Duty franchise makes decent games that it is past over and the attention firmly placed in the fresh and the new. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is a fad, and one that will be passed over by the next big franchise with mass appeal.

My own 2 pence: I think this problem, and infact this thread is symptomatic of the problem, is that mass appeal means that a franchise is scrutinised. Look at Halo, once the bees knees, now mostly shunned and complained about since its the done thing. (note people still play it ALOT so this argument is thin also) Anything with mass appeal with have the lovers, of which there are many, and the haters which are less but louder - it is the way of things. Mass Effect 2, the lovers, and the haters who say its not as good as the first. Dead Space, the lovers who thought that the action horror was visceral and terrifying and the haters who found it wooden and not scary atall since you could cut up the badies no trouble. (The old its not scary if you're competant argument)

So play the games you love, moan about how rubbish everyone else's taste is if its not yours and the world will go on as before.

Also, woo 100th post. *birthday poppers*
 

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I do agree that it's annoying that pretty much every fps is going down this road after it's success; it's a little tiring. Don't get me wrong, I loved Cod 4, though MW 2 was pretty fun too, but when every other company falls in line and just rips it off it does my head in.
I like originality in my games. So in that respect I certainly agree that it's had an overall negative influence on the way development is going lately.