Poll: Why I think Call of Duty is Poisoning Video Game's Image (besides the fact that i don't like it).

[Dr. Crawver]

I hate COD as well, but mainly because it's average, that's it. I'd buy it if it weren't for all the mindless hype that puts me off. It is not that great

 

[Kaez]

Exactly, before it was GTA, before that it was Mortal Kombat, and before that I don't know what order games came out in.

People just *****.

Did you know they used to complain about theater? Yeah, that theater. New mediums are always considered evil by most people of the previous generation, at least for a while.

I'll be one of the few to admit, I'm sick of hearing about 3d, which is growing more and more popular. I like my 2d tv and 2d films thank you very much . I will not shell out money for something 3d for a very long time .

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Exactly, before it was GTA, before that it was Mortal Kombat, and before that I don't know what order games came out in.

People just *****.

Did you know they used to complain about theater? Yeah, that theater. New mediums are always considered evil by most people of the previous generation, at least for a while.

I'll be one of the few to admit, I'm sick of hearing about 3d, which is growing more and more popular. I like my 2d tv and 2d films thank you very much . I will not shell out money for something 3d for a very long time .

Don't worry, I complain about 3D too.

It just doesn't work for me, looks like a regular movie.

 

[SpireOfFire]

you're mad because COD is the poster boy for video games. well, if it isnt COD, it would be something else, and you'd be mad at THAT game instead of COD. seems like you just hate whatever is popular. i hate the chicago blackhawks but they won the stanley cup. we just have to both suffer our enemies successes.

P.S. CoD 3 sucked. this is pretty much common knowledge.

 

[RatRace123]

Yes it is taking away recognition other good games should get.
Yes, it is polluting video games in the sense that every game is trying to copy the formula of realistic military shooter (well every shooter is)
Yes, it's simply rehashing character stereotypes instead of actual characters

But, what can ya do?

 

[Confidingtripod]

Thank god someone made a post about this now I can voice my opinion with a reduced chance of being trolled because of said oppinion!

CoD(MW1/2)the only game's that were almost able to put me off FPS's forever because of the sit and shoot until some-one inaudibly screams orders at me and then I get to sit and shoot some more with zero game value.

But the thing I hate most is the fact that so many of the fans are elietist's and if I get trolled even ONCE over this it will just prove my point

You people are just as bad as your peers. They praise it up to the hilt and you flame it down to hell. Stop it. Seriously, have you stopped to consider how irritating it is when people go "Wahh the world keeps worshipping Call of Duty" compared to "Omggg Call of Duty is amazing"? Sounds the same, doesn't it? I said it before, and i'll say it again. All the hatred of CoD (particularly MW2 right now) is nothing more than zeitgeist and the "cool" thing to do. It's like you think it makes you some kind of connoisseur of video gaming just because you denounce the most popular mainstream title. It doesn't, it makes you look more like a snooty arse.

I like Call of Duty. I think it's a solid, streamlined game with good controls, good graphics, and astounding framerate. I enjoyed the story of both MW games and i think the guns have a fantastic feel to them when you fire them. It's as accurate as i am, and that's what i appreciate, as opposed to the actual gun being shitty and all over the place.

Edit: To all the people whining about the story, it's a first person shooter. What the hell are you expecting, Final Fantasy? Story in shooters is just context for you to go and kill baddies in, unless stated otherwise. Bioshock's focus was atmosphere, environment and story. This is shown in the five to ten minute introduction where you have to wait a fair while until you get a firearm. But this is a game about war. War. War doesn't have a particularly big plot to it when it's so closely tied to a non-fiction setting in the modern day. Be glad they put any story in it at all rather than "We're at war with because we don't like them, go go go!". People who expect ANYTHING revolutionary from a story in a military shooter has their head in the clouds.

While quite offensive to me in the opening paragraph as I am not a:"snooty arse" just for loathing a game before it was cool to do so you do have a point.

I never looked for a story that had some love intrest or any of that crap that is slowley infiltrating games I loved the time splitters trilogy, its that the realism of the game is off for me I continually got a sense of american propaganda in it,the guns you glorify as feeling real is true but I found that limited to the USA weaponry mabie I missed something along the line but that aspect annoyed me as an irish person.

 

[Venom 3135]

(This mostly pertains to the Modern Warfare)

I'll admit.

I don't like the newer Call of Duty games, both modern warfares failed in my eyes, the only one I can think of that I enjoyed was World at War, even then that was just because of Nazi zombies. Call of Duty 3 was more enjoyable than the modern warfares. But I suppose I have to thank them for helping to make my hobby of choice mainstream, video games are pretty common place, and almost everyone I know has at least taken a stab at them.

But at the same time I have to point out that they make video games and (and teenage boys) look bad. At least where I live, "COD" has become almost synonymous with video game. You're playing a video game? It's assumed that you're playing COD. You're not playing COD? You're gay.

And even if you're not playing Call of Duty, someone you know is, and their non-gamer family member or friend will come and watch then kill people for two seconds and judge all games. Granted this goes for most games, but these thoughts are commonly brought up by Call of Duty, which has a horrible story, and (in my mind) doesn't stand out as an example of a "good reason to kill virtual people" (see Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption or Fallout 3 among others for good reasons to kill virtual people).

If nothing else I have to thank the games for being the poster boy for games. Because of that, the jerks who don't care about researching and trying games (and a few who do, because the game generally get amazing reviews) flock to it, because they don't put in the work to find a good game. As such, they stay out of my Bad Company2.

Now, I'm not asking you to change your ways, if you like CODMW (pronounced kind of like codmwah) then play it, I just want to keep this game from ruining the greatest generation the Industry has seen.

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES THAT MODERN WARFARE IS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! *hi five*

 

[Woodsey]

You know, Nazi Zombies is one of the reasons I hate the new Call of Duty games. You know, Call of Duty, the intense, realistic, squad based shooter that was always one of the most respectful tellings of World War II? The game that was always focusing on historical accuracy and sometimes teaching you about the battles and motives of the war? And then they bring in Nazi Zombies.

Call of Duty's never been particularly realistic (even the first 2 in terms of gameplay) and it's definitely never been a squad based shooter.

Anyway, I dislike CoD now because it's lost the heart of the first 2; they were rather strikingly anti-war, whereas the Modern Warfare's keep the quotes when you die but are far more interested in being an action film.

I think I'd still prefer to have CoD as the poster-boy for gaming (to the ignorant) instead of GTA given the (perceived) nature of GTA games.

 

[Venom 3135]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WRONG QUOTE OOPS :S

 

[Venom 3135]

(This mostly pertains to the Modern Warfare)

I'll admit.

I don't like the newer Call of Duty games, both modern warfares failed in my eyes, the only one I can think of that I enjoyed was World at War, even then that was just because of Nazi zombies. Call of Duty 3 was more enjoyable than the modern warfares. But I suppose I have to thank them for helping to make my hobby of choice mainstream, video games are pretty common place, and almost everyone I know has at least taken a stab at them.

But at the same time I have to point out that they make video games and (and teenage boys) look bad. At least where I live, "COD" has become almost synonymous with video game. You're playing a video game? It's assumed that you're playing COD. You're not playing COD? You're gay.

And even if you're not playing Call of Duty, someone you know is, and their non-gamer family member or friend will come and watch then kill people for two seconds and judge all games. Granted this goes for most games, but these thoughts are commonly brought up by Call of Duty, which has a horrible story, and (in my mind) doesn't stand out as an example of a "good reason to kill virtual people" (see Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption or Fallout 3 among others for good reasons to kill virtual people).

If nothing else I have to thank the games for being the poster boy for games. Because of that, the jerks who don't care about researching and trying games (and a few who do, because the game generally get amazing reviews) flock to it, because they don't put in the work to find a good game. As such, they stay out of my Bad Company2.

Now, I'm not asking you to change your ways, if you like CODMW (pronounced kind of like codmwah) then play it, I just want to keep this game from ruining the greatest generation the Industry has seen.

this is the write quote -.-

 

[silver wolf009]

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Call of Duty, which has a horrible story, and (in my mind) doesn't stand out as an example of a "good reason to kill virtual people" (see Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption or Fallout 3 among others for good reasons to kill virtual people).

Call of Duty you kill people to stop terrorists blowing up the world...

Fallout 3 and Red Dead Redemption, you can kill people outside of any context, for no other reason than your sick pleasure at doing so.

EDIT:

My point is that COD is not to be blamed for the perception of games as mindless violence. Blame Doom for that.

And in fallout 3 its all the more gruesome. But i suppose thats why i love that game.

OT: Ive always view CoD as a good series. The main thing i intialy didnt like about the games is how fast you died, even in just core. I think it was because i was just used to playing halo but i got over that. The only real problem i have with CoD MW2 is that i just dont feel thats its balanced enough. Now that may just be how it feels to me but i havent played a single game where over half the players are camping in MW2. That might just be my personal experience though.

 

[Hyper-space]

But at the same time I have to point out that they make video games and (and teenage boys) look bad. At least where I live, "COD" has become almost synonymous with video game. You're playing a video game? It's assumed that you're playing COD. You're not playing COD? You're gay.

Where do you live? Doucheville, U.S.A?. Most people i know whose only exposure to video games is farmville and COD do not act like this and i am beginning to think that you are just pulling stuff out of your ass.

And even if you're not playing Call of Duty, someone you know is, and their non-gamer family member or friend will come and watch then kill people for two seconds and judge all games. Granted this goes for most games, but these thoughts are commonly brought up by Call of Duty, which has a horrible story, and (in my mind) doesn't stand out as an example of a "good reason to kill virtual people" (see Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption or Fallout 3 among others for good reasons to kill virtual people).

So what, some people will always judge a medium based on the most popular series and this pretty much applies to everything. Also, the story is not "horrible", name a good reason why it is bad. People need to stop making baseless statements/claims. And why does a video-game need a reason for you to kill? in MW2 you are in a war against the ultra-nationalists, so the reason for killing is present.

If nothing else I have to thank the games for being the poster boy for games. Because of that, the jerks who don't care about researching and trying games (and a few who do, because the game generally get amazing reviews) flock to it, because they don't put in the work to find a good game. As such, they stay out of my Bad Company2.

"These jerks do not deserve to play my games" this whiny, petty isolationist view-point is what makes us gamers look bad. Stop it and man up.

Now, I'm not asking you to change your ways, if you like CODMW (pronounced kind of like codmwah) then play it, I just want to keep this game from ruining the greatest generation the Industry has seen.

HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS GAME RUIN AN ENTIRE GENERATION? Because its popular? because it shares some concept with other popular games?

 

[TheLefty]

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Where do you live? Doucheville, U.S.A?. Most people i know whose only exposure to video games is farmville and COD do not act like this and i am beginning to think that you are just pulling stuff out of your ass.

Apparently so, as many other people have commented that they haven't seen this behavior.

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So what, some people will always judge a medium based on the most popular series and this pretty much applies to everything. Also, the story is not "horrible", name a good reason why it is bad. People need to stop making baseless statements/claims. And why does a video-game need a reason for you to kill? in MW2 you are in a war against the ultra-nationalists, so the reason for killing is present.[/quote]

Apparently our reasons here differ. The story (in the first one at least) was barely put forward, and I couldn't follow it at all, with the exceptions of some stereotypical terrorist blowing up his own town.

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"These jerks do not deserve to play my games" this whiny, petty isolationist view-point is what makes us gamers look bad. Stop it and man up.[/quote]

That's a great way to quote, summarize, and exaggerate. I never said anyone didn't deserve to play any games. I was saying that the player base for games I play are less polluted with jerks and the like than the MW player base. I've never had to quit a game a Bad Company or Team Fortress 2 match because one of the guys on my team was insulting me, which was relatively common when I played Modern Warfare.

Now, I'm not asking you to change your ways, if you like CODMW (pronounced kind of like codmwah) then play it, I just want to keep this game from ruining the greatest generation the Industry has seen.

HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS GAME RUIN AN ENTIRE GENERATION? Because its popular? because it shares some concept with other popular games?[/quote]

Maybe I didn't word that well, I should have said something along the lines of damaging the image of games or the like.

 

[magicmonkeybars]

I've stopped caring about fps, they al suck now, it's like no one want to inovate anymore.
I'm so sick of war shooters.
It's all so meh...

 

[Jack Nettle]

I just dislike the game because, despite it trying to be realistic, it's not. It's horribly bad at being realistic. My friend survived a nuke by standing under a thin sheet of mesh.

Other than that, I also don't like the fact that it takes little skill level to do... anything.
I do not own the game, but I did borrow it. On my first try on Xbox live, I didn't die once in the first match. Maybe it is because I was playing against others with a low skill level, I don't know. I don't care.
Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops will be forgotten when Reach starts dominating the market anyways...

 

[similar.squirrel]

I'd be inclined to agree with that. Most of these games [COD, Gears of War, Lost Planet..] cater to the kind of people who subsist on a diet of Cola, punctuate sentences with 'fag' and occasionally murder somebody.
Not a good image for any industry. It's like Hollywood being defined by Epic Movie or Transformers.

 

[Hyper-space]

Apparently our reasons here differ. The story (in the first one at least) was barely put forward, and I couldn't follow it at all, with the exceptions of some stereotypical terrorist blowing up his own town.

The storyline of MW2 is not exactly Primer level in complexity. Everything that transpires between your missions is explained in the debriefing. Hell i haven't even played the first game and i knew what was going on the entire time.

 

[TOGSolid]

Modern Warfare 2 is the greatest idiot sponge I have ever seen, and for that reason alone I welcome its presence.

New Hampshire, USA

East Coast

I think I found your real problem .

 

[Irridium]

I always for Call of Duty to be kind of "meh". Not sure how it got so popular so quickly though. It seemed like it happened overnight. All of a sudden everyone was playing it, and I was thinking "why?".

They add nothing to the FPS formula. The first Modern Warfare polished it to a mirror shine, and while that was mildly entertaining, the second Modern Warfare added so much stuff it started to collapse on itself.

I doubt its going to poison all of gaming, but I wouldn't be surprised if it influences a lot of FPS games for a while.

And even if you're not playing Call of Duty, someone you know is, and their non-gamer family member or friend will come and watch then kill people for two seconds and judge all games. Granted this goes for most games, but these thoughts are commonly brought up by Call of Duty, which has a horrible story, and (in my mind) doesn't stand out as an example of a "good reason to kill virtual people" (see Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption or Fallout 3 among others for good reasons to kill virtual people).

I'd like to add on to Fallout 3. There is a very good reason to go insane and kill everyone. That reason is called Little Lamplight.

The poor, broken plot doesn't exactly help my sanity either.

Spoiler: Fallout 3 rant inside

Watch me destroy the plot right here.
Your dad is trying to build a water-purification plant. This is pointless, since a water purifier already exists in Megaton.
That not good enough for you? Here's another way to get easy, clean water: Condensation.

Your robot butler gives you six glasses of pure water every. single. day. They could have taken all that time building the purifier, and just used it to build an army of robots that created water through condensation.

Honestly, Fallout 3 has the worst plot I have ever seen.

 

[lokun489]

i'm not an fps fan but and jrpg fan so i feel the same on final fantasy ruining us saying we all just can't get enough of turn based combat and such so i kinda agree with you.