Poll: Why, Modern Art? Why?

[killerap85]

Funny I was thinking the same thing about you

"Art isn't basketball, it's not like watching a slam dunk where we stand in awe wishing we could jump that high."

Ahh, but a SKILLED basketball player can make the game into an art. Jordon anyone?

I want art that awes me and inspires me

You speak about art like it is some vague concpet that defies expression and exists only in some mysterious thing.

I think art is something that is clearly and skillfully defined. I think a great artist is someone skilled in clearly and distinctly defining all of these abstract concepts most modern artist are simply to lazy to bother with.

I think a great gamer can make a game do things that others could hardly dream of.

 

[Imitation Saccharin]

Perhaps normal people are able to understand it.

From the general public's sentiments on the topic I'd say no.

What is wrong with an obscure "point?"

Nothing. You can be as bizarre, singular, and self-referentially complex as you want. It's a free country.

I'm just being descriptive.

 

[axia777]

You speak about art like it is some vague concept that defies expression and exists only in some mysterious thing.

I think art is something that is clearly and skillfully defined. I think a great artist is someone skilled in clearly and distinctly defining all of these abstract concepts most modern artist are simply to lazy to bother with.

That is because it is a "vague concept that defies expression". Just like beauty, art is in the eye of the beholder. Your point of view is trying to force all that anyone see in art into one small confined box. I am an artist and to make any sort of art takes the exact opposite state of mind. Art is free and unconfined. What is art to some is not art to others, and that is ok.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Art doesn't need to have a point. People who try to find meaning in a page of randomly arranged shapes are in fact twats and give modern art a bad image. The question you have to ask yourself is "is it pleasing to look at?" If the answer is yes, then it was probably more worthwhile than another portrait.

 

[Imitation Saccharin]

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I have? no words? they should have? sent? a poet?

 

[killerap85]

"That is because it is a "vague concept that defies expression"."

i give you that today it is and seems to be created for soul purpose of trying desperatly to prove it, but I think norman rockwell had a great many non-vague concepts that he expressed very well. The four freedoms fly in the face of it with vivid color.

"Your point of view is trying to force all that anyone see in art into one small confined box."

No Im not. Im not forcing anyone to do anything or see anything. Im simply saying what I think good art is. Some people like peanut butter and mayo on bread. I dont. I think its silly and dumb.

"I am an artist and to make any sort of art takes the exact opposite state of mind"

Minbd if we see some of your stuff?

"Art is free and unconfined." free only to define itself within boundries.

"What is art to some is not art to others, and that is ok."

We agree here

 

[killerap85]

eggo, is that a 10k piece of art or something?

 

[killerap85]

BTW, Im using Norman Rockwell as an example for a reason. He was probably, imo, onetof the greatest artists of his time and was ignored by the artistic elites for being nothing more than a commercial artist. I think any one of his works is worth the entire modern art movement.

Maybe if he sucked up to gertrude stein like picasso did he would have been rich too.

 

[killerap85]

Maybe your points should have points?

 

[one-shot-finch]

I once saw a plane made entirely out of knives that wouldnt make it anywhere near a real plane a great commentary on plane security. in the same room there was also a blank canvas. underneath it said the "artist" only painted in white

 

[killerap85]

"I once saw a plane made entirely out of knives that wouldnt make it anywhere near a real plane a great commentary on plane security. in the same room there was also a blank canvas. underneath it said the "artist" only painted in white"

Thats it though. I think a point on airplane security is better served being created with words. Unless of course there is some kind of skill being demonstrated.

The joke pieces are just that.

 

[killerap85]

So according to that wiki article the whole point of him grabbing a urinal and actin like it was art was to provoke people and that somehow makes it art? wtvr

I like art that takes skill. If any douchbag can do it, it isnt art TO ME. Its some douchebag talking the walk.

But the thing is, not any douchebag can make good modern art. It just looks like it.

somehow missed this.

If it looks like a duck and walks like duck...

 

[Uszi]

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It's not trying to say anything like
"What is the crab? Is it the representation of our sorrow? our anger? Our wasteful ways?"
Instead it's just
"Croaw! I'm a giant crab and I'm gonna eat'cher!"

Actually, it could represent all of those things, and I'm sure if you showed it to an artist or someone with an degree in art, they would find some sort of interpretation for you.

As for us nerds though, whenever we see a picture like that, all we can think is:

"Hey, kid, ATTACK ITS WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!"

 

[Archon]

Tom, if you'll grant me that aesthetic impact and technical skill are both relevant to a fair definition of art, I'll revise my opinion from "aesthetic beauty" to "purposeful and powerful aesthetic impact" then, to include the (fair) example of a Picasso or similar works of high technique and potent emotional impact, albeit not beautiful...

 

[Agiel7]

I consider myself as someone who immensely enjoys art (Renoir especially, but Luis Royo is also on my short list). However, if a man wearing a turtle-neck and a beret just splatters paint on a canvas and tells me I'm not looking into his "painting" deep enough, I still think its an excuse for a lack of actual painting ability.

 

[jdog345]

Pollock threw paint at the canvas thinking, "This *splat* is *splat* so fucking *splat* easy!"

 

[tendo82]

"purposeful and powerful aesthetic impact"

An eloquent summation of the artistic endeavor.

 

[GothmogII]

Art doesn't need to have a point. People who try to find meaning in a page of randomly arranged shapes are in fact twats and give modern art a bad image. The question you have to ask yourself is "is it pleasing to look at?" If the answer is yes, then it was probably more worthwhile than another portrait.

I can agree here. No, it's not a very 'deep' way to approach art. But it's how I like it, I look at a piece, and say, do I like the way this looks? Is it interesting? Pleasing to the eye, that's all I'm looking for personally. I don't think it's a great disservice to the artist to not agonise over something looking for whatever obscure meaning they've attempted to stick on to it, they'll have plenty enough people doing that anyway, don't see why -everyone- has to.