Poll: Why the hate for Dragonforce?

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rainman2203

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I got to see these guys when they were in the states (for once). Maybe a crowd 50 people tops. I have to say their music is a little repetitive and definitely ridiculous, but hey, I love power metal, so that's not a problem for me. They kick ass live. How often do you get to see a keytar solo anymore?

Extra: Fun drinking game- have people choose words such as 'fire', 'flames', 'high', 'dragon', 'steel', 'pain', or 'fight' and drink every time you here your word. Needless to say, you're going to get trashed in no time at all.
 

BonsaiK

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TheLoveRat said:
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They have their heads firmly lodged up their asses and are all the worse for it.
I hate them because they don't make good music. All they do is play really fast music, which quite frankly, I think sounds terrible. Plus being able to play live well is a sign of a good band for me, if they lack this then I have no interest in listening to them.
PS(I changed the quote but I don't know how you put the changes in bold, any help?)
Don't change my quote. If you've got something to say have the courage to say it without putting someone else's name on it.
That's not what I was trying to do, if you actually read the pot then you would have seen that I was trying to put the changes in bold to indicate what you should have said.
I know what you were trying to do. I still think it's lame. Don't indicate what you think I should have said by changing my post. Indicate what you think I should have said by actually having the balls to say it yourself.
 

Frank_Sinatra_

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ultimatechance said:
Repetitive and predictable chords make Dragonforce a very very dull band.
Pretty much, they only have 3 good and barely good songs.

Much better power metal out there.
 

NeutralDrow

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
ultimatechance said:
Repetitive and predictable chords make Dragonforce a very very dull band.
Pretty much, they only have 3 good and barely good songs.

Much better power metal out there.
Which ones, out of curiosity?
 

Frank_Sinatra_

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NeutralDrow said:
Frank_Sinatra_ said:
ultimatechance said:
Repetitive and predictable chords make Dragonforce a very very dull band.
Pretty much, they only have 3 good and barely good songs.

Much better power metal out there.
Which ones, out of curiosity?
Through the Fire and the Flames, Heroes of Our Time, and Operation Ground and Pound.
 

NeutralDrow

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
NeutralDrow said:
Frank_Sinatra_ said:
ultimatechance said:
Repetitive and predictable chords make Dragonforce a very very dull band.
Pretty much, they only have 3 good and barely good songs.

Much better power metal out there.
Which ones, out of curiosity?
Through the Fire and the Flames, Heroes of Our Time, and Operation Ground and Pound.
Cool. Can't argue with you there.
 

ultimatechance

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
Through the Fire and the Flames, Heroes of Our Time, and Operation Ground and Pound.
Those are their best songs, as well as Fury of the Storm. The only issue is, they all sound almost identical to each other.

EDIT: Fucking mispost.
 

CuddlyCombine

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I like them, but they're not great. I like them in the same sense I like Green Day's old stuff, basically. Something about them just makes them really repetitive (seems to be a recurring theme after reading through these pages).

I don't see why anyone would hate them, though. They've got talent, but they don't know how to apply it effectively (as opposed to bands like Dream Theater, for example). I could justify hating Nickelback, but not Dragonforce.
 

Rajin Cajun

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Ultrajoe said:
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Come on man, that wasn't even an attempt to answer the title of the thread let alone add to the conversation. The OP has already dicussed the repetition as a factor but you feel the need to jump in and lash out with the same old line? Poor form, poor form indeed.
Uhh have you ever listened to Dragonforce? There is nothing to add about them except repetition. Dude they use the same exact riffs repeatedly what is there to say about a band that doesn't bother with originality except with an unoriginal comment? To say you can't use that against them is because the OP stated it is a cop-out. Dragonforce is niche crap and always will be because they appeal to the lowest common denominator in the Metal Community.
I'm not disputing you claims, i'm expressing my disaste that you felt the need to waste a post to type up one line of an already established fact. I'm not saying 'you can't use it against them', i'm saying it's a dead horse comment and you're not contributing anything constructive by 'using it against them'. Hence the poor form.

Calm down, you'll do yourself an injury.
Calm down? From What? Talking about the boring songs of Dragonforce? I would hardly get worked up over a band like that.
 

KeyMaster45

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I do get that some people think they're repetitive, but why does it call for hate and stupid profanity? Every DF video, 90% claim that they suck. When will people learn to be more respectful and less judgemental? Oh, and while I'm on it, a little survey on what the Escapists think of them.
Here's something I've noticed about the interwebs, when people hate something they broadcast it to the world, the people who like it stay quiet because there's no use arguing with someone who's already made up their mind....and think that everyone needs to know what they think.
 

vampirekid.13

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crazyhaircut94 said:
I do get that some people think they're repetitive, but why does it call for hate and stupid profanity? Every DF video, 90% claim that they suck. When will people learn to be more respectful and less judgemental? Oh, and while I'm on it, a little survey on what the Escapists think of them.

because its freaking impossible to beat their songs on expert in guitar hero.
 

NeutralDrow

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KeyMaster45 said:
crazyhaircut94 said:
I do get that some people think they're repetitive, but why does it call for hate and stupid profanity? Every DF video, 90% claim that they suck. When will people learn to be more respectful and less judgemental? Oh, and while I'm on it, a little survey on what the Escapists think of them.
Here's something I've noticed about the interwebs, when people hate something they broadcast it to the world, the people who like it stay quiet because there's no use arguing with someone who's already made up their mind....and think that everyone needs to know what they think.
Oh, good. It's not just me, then.

vampirekid.13 said:
because its freaking impossible to beat their songs on expert in guitar hero.
Frankly, I think their songs are just more fun on the lower difficulty levels, but I feel that way on a lot of the games' music. I just don't have fun paying exclusive attention to the notes and none to the music.

_>

...which isn't to say I'm not a member of the "2% Completion" club on Through the Fire and the Flames. That went by too fast even to be humiliating...
 

JetFire62

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Lexodus said:
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Their music is repetitive, they are terrible live, it's all studio magic, just because you shred the hell out of your guitar doesn't mean you're a guitar god *cough* Yngwie Malmsteen *cough* Good music comes from great musical talent, and great songwriting, which many bands these days are terribly lacking. The only active bands I can truly believe that invest in songwriting are Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Bullet For My Valentine, Rush; the list can go on forever. The songwritng is the soul of music, that's why Led Zeppelin is the most epically beautiful music I've ever heard. Unless they get their shit together and invest in the songwriting, all they'll be remembered for when they disappear is Through The Fire And Flames.
"The only active bands I can truly believe that invest in songwriting" in the same sentence as "the list can go on forever"? You, sir, or ma'am, as the case may be, have just made an ass of yourself.

I love Dragonforce. That's all I have to say about that.
Then please allow me to rephrase that:

"To name a few, the active bands I can truly believe that invest in songwriting are Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Bullet For My Valentine, and Rush"

that should clear it up
 

Lexodus

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JetFire62 said:
Lexodus said:
JetFire62 said:
Their music is repetitive, they are terrible live, it's all studio magic, just because you shred the hell out of your guitar doesn't mean you're a guitar god *cough* Yngwie Malmsteen *cough* Good music comes from great musical talent, and great songwriting, which many bands these days are terribly lacking. The only active bands I can truly believe that invest in songwriting are Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Bullet For My Valentine, Rush; the list can go on forever. The songwritng is the soul of music, that's why Led Zeppelin is the most epically beautiful music I've ever heard. Unless they get their shit together and invest in the songwriting, all they'll be remembered for when they disappear is Through The Fire And Flames.
"The only active bands I can truly believe that invest in songwriting" in the same sentence as "the list can go on forever"? You, sir, or ma'am, as the case may be, have just made an ass of yourself.

I love Dragonforce. That's all I have to say about that.
Then please allow me to rephrase that:

"To name a few, the active bands I can truly believe that invest in songwriting are Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Bullet For My Valentine, and Rush"

that should clear it up
Better, gramatically and sensically speaking, but I still like Dragonforce.
 

Conqueror Kenny

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They can play fast and that's why so many people like them. But no matter how fast you play if you don't make good songs with good lyrics, melodies and other songy stuff they are still going to be bad.

I heard somebody once say that they would be good if they were 12 year old kids playing in battle of the bands then they would be great. But as a real band they are just not that good.
 

SprodeMaster

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Those dudes have got no soul, and as far as lyrics go, it sounds like a read-through of Eragon (If it was written by a 13 year old in a Pixie Stix factory.)