Poll: Will Fallout New Vegas Be Better Or Worse Than Fallout 3?
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Let's see. Take Bethesda's mastery of gameplay mechanics that were self-evident throughout Fallout 3, add in JE Sawyer and friends who are better writers and loremasters than Emil Pagliarulo could hope to be in his wildest dreams (don't get me wrong, Emil rocks, but he's got nothing on the original Fallout guys)...
That sounds an awful lot like a "best of both worlds" Game of the Year lock right there.
That sounds an awful lot like a "best of both worlds" Game of the Year lock right there.
I nearly pulled off a hardcore no-death run on Normal before a tri-beam laser-armed Super Mutant Overlord fucked it up at the 30-hour mark. That I would even seriously consider attempting something like that speaks volumes to the game's absurd simplicity (not that I mind; it makes just that sort of character-risking challenge so much more fun).Furburt said:
Looks a lot like Fallout 3.
I like the fact that your skills determine paths in the conversation, rather than just relying on barter and charisma.
I like the fact that your skills determine paths in the conversation, rather than just relying on barter and charisma.
Bethesda + Original Fallout developers? There's no way you can go wrong with this, other then the FPS part but hopefully that's improved over Fallout 3.
I agree.Soulgaunt said:
Not only storywise, but also in the hallmarks of game events. Yes I know that you in Fallout 3 needed to get power armour training in order to actually be able to use it, but power armour clad NPC's and you getting it just didn't feel as special as it was in Fallout 1 or 2.
And also I remember that if you stumbled across Enclave soldiers in Fallout 2, it tended to be a matter of: "HOLY SHIT! Enemies with power armour and laser weapons! Im gonna die!" The first few times it happened. In fallout 3 it didn't take long for me to slaughter enclave troopers wearing power armour in their hundreds without breaking a sweat.
Fallout 3 jumped the gun on way too many things. And also I really didn't like the part where most types of armour could grant attribute bonuses. I liked the fact that boosting your attributes more or less permanently was difficult to du in the first two games, and the fact that power armour boosted your strength value made it extremely good, instead of just being "meh..."-good like it is in Fallout 3.
I hope that New Vegas will go back to this and make not only the story a lot less shallow but also the moments where the player is most likely to acquire certain pieces of technology that have been the hallmarks of Fallout since the first game. No need to rush it, the game is more fun when you have to work for it.
Also, I certainly hope that the developers can dig out their balls and make the game a lot less kid-friendly again like Fallout 1 and 2 was. No im not som psycho who actually WANT to shoot pre-pubescent children in the crotch with a shotgun, but I feel stifled when the game actively prohibits me from doing it. Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 didn't. Especially Fallout 2 was filled with non-kid-friendly themes ranging from prostitution, drug abuse, pornography, foul language, A LOT of violence (even against children) etc. etc.
Some of it was there in Fallout 3, but not nearly enough. If you're even going to bother with having a "moral choice" system in a game, then what's the point of including moral restrictions? Free the players and let them go nuts in any way they want. Screw the malicious countries who wish to impose censorship. The game will most likely sell anyway through import. The censorship goblins will never learn if game companies don't fight them and refuse to bend to their ridiculous "standards of decency".
If New Vegas can have the game engine, graphics and game system of Fallout 3, but include the story depth, difficulty and as much (if not more) adult themes as Fallout 2, then the game will most likely be pretty sweet.
It looks pretty cool. I do think a little more challenge is a good thing, but it shouldn't go over the top. In my personal opinion too much challenge makes a game less fun. I play Fallout 3 on easy just because I enjoy feeling like a minor god in a world full of scrounging losers.
Funny, I get this feeling after running through Op. Anchorage and the Pitt for the Chinese Stealth Armor and the Infiltrator. Once you've got both items it's barely a step up from 100% Chameleon in Oblivion.Godavari said:It looks pretty cool. I do think a little more challenge is a good thing, but it shouldn't go over the top. In my personal opinion too much challenge makes a game less fun. I play Fallout 3 on easy just because I enjoy feeling like a minor god in a world full of scrounging losers.
Well...Here's my take...
Fallout 3 was a great game...it's so good...so unreasonably that it'd be next to impossible for the next one to be better or even as good...
Bioshock 2 wasn't a bad game in anyway...the only problem with the game was that it wasn't Bioshock 2. If it was released first, everyone would have been amazed at it just like the first. The first time you descended into Rapture and saw the giant whale swimming through the city, the first reaction I had (and probably everyone else playing the game had) was "Holy shit...that's awesome..." By the time part two came out, instead of the reactions I had, it was "Hey, a shark" and then I moved on with my life. It got to the point where I wasn't exploring everything the way I did in the first one or even looking out of the glass tubes to see what was going on outside like I was in the first one.
I think New Vegas will have the same problem
Fallout 3 was a great game...it's so good...so unreasonably that it'd be next to impossible for the next one to be better or even as good...
Bioshock 2 wasn't a bad game in anyway...the only problem with the game was that it wasn't Bioshock 2. If it was released first, everyone would have been amazed at it just like the first. The first time you descended into Rapture and saw the giant whale swimming through the city, the first reaction I had (and probably everyone else playing the game had) was "Holy shit...that's awesome..." By the time part two came out, instead of the reactions I had, it was "Hey, a shark" and then I moved on with my life. It got to the point where I wasn't exploring everything the way I did in the first one or even looking out of the glass tubes to see what was going on outside like I was in the first one.
I think New Vegas will have the same problem
Fallout 3 isn't that hard to beat, to be honest. Especially if the team making the next one has parts of the original Fallout team, which in my opinion, the first two Fallouts surpassed Fallout 3 in every way possible.Beacon said: