Poll: will machines ever be more intelligent than people?

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Yopaz

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If we define intelligence as IQ then I think we might be there already. If we use a broader more human application of what intelligence is then not likely. Creating something as complex as the brain and the nerve system of even simple organisms is far more complicated than we give it credit for. We are at the level where we can make synthetic bacteria, but that is already taking advantage of things we didn't create ourselves. If we want to create something with more complexity than us I think we'll need to use bioengineering in order to create a computer than can reproduce and communicate on its own. Writing the software is the tricky part since programming is very restrictive and mirrors specific purposes and the intelligence of the creator.

Kriptonite said:
I think, completely, that machines can be smarter than humans. Easy.
I just don't think humans can make that(those) machine(s).
Of course this is quite possibly what I am trying to say.
 

MorganL4

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Okay, lets look at storage space ALONE. If I remember correctly the human brain has what would be the equivalent of 2 trillion terabytes of strorage space, AND your brain grows until the day you die ( literally). On the other hand The most we can do right now is 100 terabytes on one disk. And then factor in we have more types of reasoning available to us, and that we don't rely solely on binary math, but instead any kind of math we can invent, which just points out another thing, we can invent, machines have yet to get complex recognition down, let alone the ability to create something from nothing. ( okay, maybe when we have replicators) but without Chief OBrian to keep em running they cant create something from nothing, :)
 

Terminate421

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They always will be, but they lack the proper judgment and instinct that only humans can deliver.
 

mad825

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Rowan93 said:
mad825 said:
Very unlikely, the biggest problems for AIs are the hardware resources. It's just isn't sufficient enough so far especially with transistor technology.
it's difficult for us to multiply four-digit numbers together without paper. Neurons operate at a pitiful 100Hz. There might be a lot in there, and a lot of parallel processing, but there's no way the issue is hardware. It's software.
...And the brain is adaptive and always adapting through constant stimuli and evolution. Something that's non-living cannot achieve this.

Nevertheless, you cannot compare a logical problem(i.e mathematics) to the performance of the human brain. Some are better at it than others not even to mention the insanely amount of factors that could contribute to it. A computer would always say 1+1=2 while a human might say 1+1=infinity.

In my opinion, hardware is leading problem because of the power it will require and the physical limits that exist. The greatest machine is the brain.
 

Rowan93

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mad825 said:
Rowan93 said:
mad825 said:
Very unlikely, the biggest problems for AIs are the hardware resources. It's just isn't sufficient enough so far especially with transistor technology.
it's difficult for us to multiply four-digit numbers together without paper. Neurons operate at a pitiful 100Hz. There might be a lot in there, and a lot of parallel processing, but there's no way the issue is hardware. It's software.
...And the brain is adaptive and always adapting through constant stimuli and evolution. Something that's non-living cannot achieve this.

Nevertheless, you cannot compare a logical problem(i.e mathematics) to the performance of the human brain. Some are better at it than others not even to mention the insanely amount of factors that could contribute to it. A computer would always say 1+1=2 while a human might say 1+1=infinity.
That something non-living can't be as adaptive as the brain is a baseless assertion, and almost certainly wrong.

Not even the best human in the world at mental mathematics can beat what the processor in my phone can do, so the claim that "some are better at it than others" just lets us know how far beyond us computers can get in fields that can be understood enough to write the code for them to do it. The answer is, they're lightyears beyond. Eons beyond.
Can you explain what this "insanely amount of factors" involves? Is there any situation where a human who said 1+1=infinity wouldn't just be wrong?
 

Scrustle

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Without question. Computers are already vastly more intelligent than us in so many ways. And they are trying really hard to improve their intelligence in other areas. One day it will get out hand and the human race will be doomed. We stand no chance as soon as the machines learn to think for themselves.