Poll: Will there be another American Revolution?

[maturin]

Oh hell no then! Pals with the Soviet Union is understandable but Castro?

Uh, he led the freaking Cuban Revolution alongside Castro. That is his sole claim to fame.

But I don't see how Castro could be called worse than the Soviet Union. (Although I suppose the USSR was in its most cuddly stage, barring the Hungarian Revolution.) The Cuban Revolution was like the Iranian Revolution. Not really worse than what came before, and warranted by it.

 

[Madara XIII]

Oh hell no then! Pals with the Soviet Union is understandable but Castro?

Uh, he led the freaking Cuban Revolution alongside Castro. That is his sole claim to fame.

But I don't see how Castro could be called worse than the Soviet Union. (Although I suppose the USSR was in its most cuddly stage, barring the Hungarian Revolution.) The Cuban Revolution was like the Iranian Revolution. Not really worse than what came before, and warranted by it.

I mostly say "Hell No" to the Cuban Revolution because it was no secret Castro hated America.

But Russia has proven to be our allies at times and despite the fact that we may get into some serious staring matches (Arms Race) I think we're better off with them

 

[Madara XIII]

The High class have the jobs and the films. We're not in Orwell's time, we're in Huxley's.

Spoiler: Long Image is Long

Well you sir seem to have blown my freaking mind XD

 

[maturin]

it was no secret Castro hated America.

Taking over people's countries tends to do that.

But Russia has proven to be our allies at times and despite the fact that we may get into some serious staring matches (Arms Race) I think we're better off with them

Okay, I'm not so sure you're up to date on your history here. About the time of the Cuban Revolution, the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. almost ushered in Armageddon together. And this after shooting down each other's pilots over Korea.

 

[n00beffect]

No. Simply, because I think our society has evolved to a state where war is absolutely redundant. Explanation: People want to make money, not spend it(carelessly, at least)(I mean on weapons and things like that, at least!) And I am not looking at these Arabic countries, because, let's be honest, they're way wa~y back. I mean, the gap between their society and ours is ENORMOUS. I don't want to be racist, but it's true.

Anyway, back to the topic, can you really imagine these hotshot suit wearing brokers, or the short-skirt/shirt wearing, Miami Beach girls getting their pitchforks and starting bonfires everywhere? I don't think so. And I know what you're going to say: "What about the south?!". Answer - Rednecks are, fortunately, becoming an indangered species. So that makes it less likely that they will make a revolution against the black people and homosexuals they hate so much.

 

[Gilhelmi]

I do not know.

Only because we are still comfortable, but if something happened like a ban on religions or any attack on any constitutional rights (1 thru 10) then the odd shift to 70% yes, 30% no.

Im no american, but im pretty sure that there is an attack on your constitutional rights right now.. Actually a couple of them.. Read alittle about the TSA and you will see...

I mean A major attack. With the airlines people can still say "No, I will just drive/take the train to get where I am going." We still have a choice about whether or not the service of air travel is worth the hassle and frisking of the TSA.

When I say "attack on the constitution", I mean something a bit more obvious like banning a religion, or making it unlawful to own a gun, or making it a crime to not answer police questions (believe it or not the one about police, that I think is the most likely).

AFAIK, there has been alot of raids against people owning guns even though they were not at all criminals.. A SWAT team even killed a veteran because he tried to defend himself against what he thought was burglers..
Owning a gun might not be illegal, but they sure dont like people who has them, since they might actually revolt at one point..

I try to keep up-to-date with the upcomming police-state in America.. And IMHO, its comming sooner than we/you think..

Edit: and saying that you can just stop taking a plane if you dont like the TSA doesnt really dismiss my point.. It is illegal to grope small childrens genitals and going into babies daipers, ESPECIALLY in the name of security and freedom..

First, I know my enemy. The Army has shown me pictures of the enemy using children as bombs. I am a peaceful person and I rarely use the word hate (as it degrades your soul if you allow hate to come in without just cause), but I hate the enemy that uses the innocent children as weapons.

Onto the first part with the SWAT team, I want to know details. Did they raid the wrong house (obviously) or given bad info from a bad informant? This is the reason I do not like the "No-Knock" Warrants.

Where do you live in the US? In Kansas, where I live, I know alot of people who live (literally) off of wild game. That is where they get their meat. Also, I see guns being banned first, and you are correct only a small group of people, in the South (us Southerners do like our firearms), are going to rebel. Then the government is going to try and suppress the uprising by banning certain Churches that verbally support the rebels. This act will greatly offend the rest of the Churches that, until now, were neutral or in favor of the government. Then, seeing the rebellion spread, the government will start treating Christians like many government officials treat the peace-loving Muslims. I do not know how this story ends. One of three things will happen, Christ returns and ends the fighting, government just plain wins, or the rebels where out the US government and the South and Bible belt states leave the Union.

Personally, I would like to see Christ return. If for no other reason then to see the stupid end. Darn, that was darkly jaded. On a positive note, I like chickens!! Eggs, fried chicken, they just give us so much.

 

[Austin Howe]

Well considering the Confederates weren't even really revolutionaries, that's 235 years strong without overthrowing the government. That's, longer than France has ever gone, if memory, sarcasm, and exageration serve me correctly. And considering Britain hasn't had one in centuriies either, I doubt it. For revolutions, you need dictators. Snicker and be misanthropic all ya want, America isn't a dictatorship. The largest group who have seriously considered taking up arms are regularly scorned as non-patriots who want to restart the civil war.

 

[GWarface]

I do not know.

Only because we are still comfortable, but if something happened like a ban on religions or any attack on any constitutional rights (1 thru 10) then the odd shift to 70% yes, 30% no.

Im no american, but im pretty sure that there is an attack on your constitutional rights right now.. Actually a couple of them.. Read alittle about the TSA and you will see...

I mean A major attack. With the airlines people can still say "No, I will just drive/take the train to get where I am going." We still have a choice about whether or not the service of air travel is worth the hassle and frisking of the TSA.

When I say "attack on the constitution", I mean something a bit more obvious like banning a religion, or making it unlawful to own a gun, or making it a crime to not answer police questions (believe it or not the one about police, that I think is the most likely).

AFAIK, there has been alot of raids against people owning guns even though they were not at all criminals.. A SWAT team even killed a veteran because he tried to defend himself against what he thought was burglers..
Owning a gun might not be illegal, but they sure dont like people who has them, since they might actually revolt at one point..

I try to keep up-to-date with the upcomming police-state in America.. And IMHO, its comming sooner than we/you think..

Edit: and saying that you can just stop taking a plane if you dont like the TSA doesnt really dismiss my point.. It is illegal to grope small childrens genitals and going into babies daipers, ESPECIALLY in the name of security and freedom..

First, I know my enemy. The Army has shown me pictures of the enemy using children as bombs. I am a peaceful person and I rarely use the word hate (as it degrades your soul if you allow hate to come in without just cause), but I hate the enemy that uses the innocent children as weapons.

Onto the first part with the SWAT team, I want to know details. Did they raid the wrong house (obviously) or given bad info from a bad informant? This is the reason I do not like the "No-Knock" Warrants.

Where do you live in the US? In Kansas, where I live, I know alot of people who live (literally) off of wild game. That is where they get their meat. Also, I see guns being banned first, and you are correct only a small group of people, in the South (us Southerners do like our firearms), are going to rebel. Then the government is going to try and suppress the uprising by banning certain Churches that verbally support the rebels. This act will greatly offend the rest of the Churches that, until now, were neutral or in favor of the government. Then, seeing the rebellion spread, the government will start treating Christians like many government officials treat the peace-loving Muslims. I do not know how this story ends. One of three things will happen, Christ returns and ends the fighting, government just plain wins, or the rebels where out the US government and the South and Bible belt states leave the Union.

Personally, I would like to see Christ return. If for no other reason then to see the stupid end. Darn, that was darkly jaded. On a positive note, I like chickens!! Eggs, fried chicken, they just give us so much.

I didnt remember the SWAT incident correctly, they did a drug-raid on the veteran's house and they shot him before he even got to arm himself... And no drugs was found.. I cant find the article now, but it shouldnt be hard to find..

I dont live in the US, i live in Denmark. Now you might think; "why do you care about our laws then?".
I care because danish politicians LOVE to lick the boots of the US government, just like most of the other European countries. And if the US government is succesful in implementing an police-state, the rest of the western world will soon follow.
Either by following orders or by one of your "humanitarian kinetic operations" because we then pose a "threat" to your "security".

It disgusts me to see all the videos of US policemen shooting innocent. That woodcarving native american that gets shot in the back on an open street. The guy at the metro-station that videotapes the police shooting another guy, the police sees him, jumps on him and cuffs him face down, he then wiggle a little and then one of the officers stands up at shoots him in the head.

I just dont want to see this in my country. Hell, i dont want to see that in ANY country. Its police brutallity and thats one of the first signs of an police-state.

And i dont really understand what you mean by "enemy".. Is this baby an enemy that needs to get checked for bombs?
http://www.infowars.com/tsa-looking-for-poop-bombs/
Dont believe what the Army has told you.. The police is already being told in training that your Founding Fathers was terrorists, i wonder what lies your military is telling then..

 

[Gilhelmi]

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I didnt remember the SWAT incident correctly, they did a drug-raid on the veteran's house and they shot him before he even got to arm himself... And no drugs was found.. I cant find the article now, but it shouldnt be hard to find..

I dont live in the US, i live in Denmark. Now you might think; "why do you care about our laws then?".
I care because danish politicians LOVE to lick the boots of the US government, just like most of the other European countries. And if the US government is succesful in implementing an police-state, the rest of the western world will soon follow.
Either by following orders or by one of your "humanitarian kinetic operations" because we then pose a "threat" to your "security".

It disgusts me to see all the videos of US policemen shooting innocent. That woodcarving native american that gets shot in the back on an open street. The guy at the metro-station that videotapes the police shooting another guy, the police sees him, jumps on him and cuffs him face down, he then wiggle a little and then one of the officers stands up at shoots him in the head.

I just dont want to see this in my country. Hell, i dont want to see that in ANY country. Its police brutallity and thats one of the first signs of an police-state.

And i dont really understand what you mean by "enemy".. Is this baby an enemy that needs to get checked for bombs?
http://www.infowars.com/tsa-looking-for-poop-bombs/
Dont believe what the Army has told you.. The police is already being told in training that your Founding Fathers was terrorists, i wonder what lies your military is telling then..

I do not believe what the Army tells me blindly, they have videos of this happening. Sadly, I can not post any of them because the Army has told me not to, mainly because the videos are very graphic. When I say enemy today, I mean terrorist, usually Bin Ladins group (I cannot remember how to spell their name). That TSA pic, I do not know the details but odds are good they were justified. The terrorist we are currently fighting have done this S*** "Son, go up to the man and hug him. BOOOM. It is OK, the boy is a Marty for the cause." I have seen videos of children being used as bombs.

There will always be bad police, who are too trigger-happy. We do need to work on our laws to fix that. I do not know how yet but I need to demand action from my legislature.

 

[Gilhelmi]

Well considering the Confederates weren't even really revolutionaries, that's 235 years strong without overthrowing the government. That's, longer than France has ever gone, if memory, sarcasm, and exageration serve me correctly. And considering Britain hasn't had one in centuriies either, I doubt it. For revolutions, you need dictators. Snicker and be misanthropic all ya want, America isn't a dictatorship. The largest group who have seriously considered taking up arms are regularly scorned as non-patriots who want to restart the civil war.

I could argue that the government before and after the civil war were quite different. Before that war the states were in more control. After the war the federal was more in control.

So really, it could be sad that the original intent of the government was overthrown.

 

[PopeAwesomeXIII]

There's nobody for us to revolt against, dudes. Only each other, and in that case it's not an "American Revolution" so much as a "Civil War."

Nixon and his lackeys are dead. Long live Democracy.

 

[Ashcrexl]

wasnt the american revolution against the english monarchy? seeing as how we are no one's colonies right now, i very much doubt there will be another revolution.

 

[Greatjusticeman]

No.

But sometimes I wish there was. Our nation needs a good asskicking in it's own ass.

 

[RaNDM G]

Unless it is during the occurrence of a plague or zombie apocalypse that utterly devastates the entire North American continent, I don't see a full-scale rebellion happening any time soon.

 

[ChieftainStag]

I don't think there will be a revolution in the next 50 years. American patriotism is a powerful thing. No, there won't be a revolution in America but I do foresee the possibility of a civil war. American politics have always been incredibly, er, bombastic and all it might take is a series of assassinations on both sides of the polarized political scene.

Sure just stay the hell out of Canada.

Also this. If you guys are going to be killing each other, please don't bring that here.

If we do have a revolution do you mind if I come up there?

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

I don't think there will be a revolution in the next 50 years. American patriotism is a powerful thing. No, there won't be a revolution in America but I do foresee the possibility of a civil war. American politics have always been incredibly, er, bombastic and all it might take is a series of assassinations on both sides of the polarized political scene.

Sure just stay the hell out of Canada.

Also this. If you guys are going to be killing each other, please don't bring that here.

If we do have a revolution do you mind if I come up there?

Leave your guns behind and learn to be polite and I think we'll be alright

 

[Raso719]

I say no for one simple reason. Nobody cares anymore.

As much as the country may be polarized, as much as we might be in turmoil I just don't see Americans going up in arms against anyone.

Sadly, on the off chance there IS a revolution I don't see it being a real one, but a coup d'état by the larger corporations and super rich and their Washington puppets cleverly disguised and crafted to appear t be a revolution or civil war where we're tricked into fighting people with completely harmless ideas or opinions and then have the government reformed in such a way that makes the government from V for Vendetta look like benevolent civil servants.


Even sadder is that before EITHER of those I'd sooner expect we come up with some scapegoat or another for all of our woes and "round them up". I can see it staring with either Hispanics or Muslims, depending on how the next few years play out. After that we'd move to either of the 2 remaining. There'd be talk of defense and sacrifice and all that jive and I'd suspect most people would eat it up. After the Muslims and Hispanics are rounded up I'd predict next up would be Atheists or anyone that ever supported abortions. Gays might also follow suit as being another victim. All this would be in the name of "solidarity and taking America back".

And EVEN STILL! I just don't think any off that will happen for one simple reason: WE JUST DON'T CARE! We let politicians play games and lie to us with no ramifications to them at the polls, we don't take personal responsibility for our own governance or even our own actions, we don't inform ourselves about up coming legislation and react to outrageous lies and crazy talk more than reason and truth and we let politicians take all sorts of donations from sketchy people who then get the favor returned in the form of tax breaks, less regulations and all that jive.

Basically, there's no reason for anyone who wants to take over out country and install their own government or puppet government to bother because the system is already easily manipulated and most people just don't care enough or aren't educated enough to know better if such an event happens that warrants a revolution (be it bloody or civilized and peaceful).

So, no. There will probably not be any revolution. Which is a shame because, you know.... We all want to change the world.

 

[OptimisticPessimist]

Doubt it. The American people seem to have cumulatively adopted an apathetic attitude towards matters of state. Even things that would have prompted revolutions in ages past seem to pass by without incident. Granted, somethings gotta give eventually, but I doubt it'll come in the form of a civil war, or anything of that nature. Of course, I could be talking outta my ass here, so take that with a grain of salt.

 

[Liudeius]

Government isn't so much the problem. To lessen the constantly growing gap, bribing of government officials to favor the well-off over the barely-able-to-scape-by needs to stop. Don't revolt against the government, don't even revolt against the rich and corporations, revolt against the corrupt.

 

[Raso719]

Government isn't so much the problem. To lessen the constantly growing gap, bribing of government officials to favor the well-off over the barely-able-to-scape-by needs to stop. Don't revolt against the government, don't even revolt against the rich and corporations, revolt against the corrupt.

There's a problem with your logic in that you're using logic. People don't respond to that. At least that's not what get's the most attention. No, if you go on and on about long winded and complex ideas like that people won't listen. Especially not if they're level headed and rooted in sanity.