originally I had asked if you would join in the lawsuit, but then someone reminded me that you're automatically a part of a class action if you're a member of the named class, so I changed it to "Would you opt out?"Korolev said:I wasn't aware I was even in it! How can you get out of something you were never in?
Eh, no big-ass company would do that. Not Microsoft, not Nintendo, not Sony. They're too big too care like that, too many customers, too spread out, completely outside the Monkey Sphere.Hiphophippo said:Sony lost a shit load of trust from it's user base because of this. I would truthfully rather this case not even go to court. In a perfect world Sony mans up to it's mistakes and does it's absolute best to make it's users feel safe and wanted. This is the ideal way to resolve this and I hope that's what happens.
And they will be. You and I are only disagreeing over how much is enough.Elamdri said:Yes there have been no confirmed cases of identity theft, but the fact that they lost the data in the first case is also something that they need to be punished for.Raistlinhawke said:When did I say that actions don't have consequences? Potentially losing $24 billion dollars isn't bad enough? Sure, if you are personally hacked and lose funds over the matter, Sony owes you. But manufacturing a lawsuit at this early stage seems ridiculous, when there have been no confirmed cases of identity theft.Elamdri said:You know what? Actions have consequences. If you don't take adequate means to protect customer data, and it get's stolen, and you get sued because of it, then you deserve it.Raistlinhawke said:Becoming part of a petty lawsuit out of spite isn't going to help anything. Especially if the financial implications are correct, and Sony gets ruined because of it.
Here's my thing. Sony is NOT my friend. Sony is a company, who exists to make money. Sony has wronged me by not adequately protecting my personal information and allowing a 3rd party access to it. I want to be compensated for that wrong, and I want to see Sony suffer some consequences for that wrong.Raistlinhawke said:And they will be. You and I are only disagreeing over how much is enough.
I never asserted that Sony or any company should be treated as a friend. The company already stands to lose an incredible amount of money, and has already lost significant revenue, without the presence of a lawsuit. Throwing another legal matter into action without absolute assurance that it is worthwhile is a terrible way to approach any legal system. Sony is already working with multiple investigations in multiple countries, and multiple lawsuits are already pending.Elamdri said:Here's my thing. Sony is NOT my friend. Sony is a company, who exists to make money. Sony has wronged me by not adequately protecting my personal information and allowing a 3rd party access to it. I want to be compensated for that wrong, and I want to see Sony suffer some consequences for that wrong.Raistlinhawke said:And they will be. You and I are only disagreeing over how much is enough.
Now I will be honest, I don't know if this suit has any merits. But it's not like Sony doesn't have a robust legal team that will fight the lawsuit. As far as I'm concerned, if the lawsuit gets thrown out or they lose, then I was wrong, and everything's as it should be.
If they lose the lawsuit, and lose money, then I was right, and everything's again as it should be.
I honestly don't care if Sony stands to lose tons of money. I think that they SHOULD lose tons of money. We'll let the courts decide tho.
Well the records were encypted escapist had an article on it yesterday.Custard_Angel said:keeping records unencrypted and evidently unsecured.Jodah said:I hope the judge takes one look, laughs, and throws the case out.
You are automatically in, you have to choose to opt out or not.funkzillabot said:I'm actually not going to opt in. I'm not going to see anything close to the money they own us for the stress, time wasted calling the bank issuing new cards, dealing with all the other accounts that original card was tied too, and any shit or scam-artists that WILL be coming down the road over the next year.
If Sony was to learn their lesson from this, repent, apologize, and change their ways that would be enough. But I know that they won't. Sony is run by idiots, they will simply blow this incident (like so many others) off as someone else's fault, never themselves. Tomorrow it will be business as usual.
You'll likely be contacted at some point by whoever is doing the lawsuit to inform you of what's going on and what you need to do, and I'm pretty sure they'll have detailed what you need to do if you wanna opt out.Midnight Crossroads said:Can anyone tell me how precisely to opt out of this? I don't want to sue Sony. They made a mistake, sure, but this is the first bad experience I've had with them. I'd like to continue to support them by not suing them.
That account has $4.31 in it, and has a finite floor, and is closed to overdrawing, by my contract for the account. I'm not in a terrible hurry to maintain it's safety.Elamdri said:You should probably close that card just to be safe.BehattedWanderer said:Probably not. I'll log in as soon as it's up, change passwords, and be done with it. The card on file is attached to an account that was eaten by college, and it's empty, I'll just remove the card from it. That account is more or less closed anyway.