Poll: Woman guts horse, takes pictures in it's carcass
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Looks like she is aspiring to be a Lady Gaga back-up dancer of sorts 
Seriously though, think of this with the Good, Bad & Ugly approach.
The Good:
- She did not break any laws and the horse was declining in health. It could not be cured and they gave it a quick and proper death.
The Bad:
- There is no reasonable point in slaughtering an animal in order to post pictures of its insides while in and out of its corpse to the internet. No true industry value and clearly did not consider how posting pictures of it on the net could result in an uproar of several communities.
The Ugly:
- Its just sick. Imagine this happening to a human. It would be one of the most disgusting and twisted acts someone could do. Old dying horses are not humans but despite the laws view, is it not a disturbing deed that needs proper rationale and explanation to commit such an action? Without true value or point except her "curiosity" and weird agendas, is it right to not enforce some psychological attention?
I can see this happening again. Maybe the backfire and death threats may prevent her from doing it again... or at least not posting the pictures. Either way someone needs to make sure she is mentally stable before shrugging this off as a silly curiosity of sorts.
Note: Btw I am not an animal lover not a tree huger. I love eating meat, value injured humans getting cured over saving the life of an animal and would probably never date a vegetarian :/
Its just that I find this girls action unreasonable. I reckon it should be a very minor crime, just enough to be addressed.
Seriously though, think of this with the Good, Bad & Ugly approach.
The Good:
- She did not break any laws and the horse was declining in health. It could not be cured and they gave it a quick and proper death.
The Bad:
- There is no reasonable point in slaughtering an animal in order to post pictures of its insides while in and out of its corpse to the internet. No true industry value and clearly did not consider how posting pictures of it on the net could result in an uproar of several communities.
The Ugly:
- Its just sick. Imagine this happening to a human. It would be one of the most disgusting and twisted acts someone could do. Old dying horses are not humans but despite the laws view, is it not a disturbing deed that needs proper rationale and explanation to commit such an action? Without true value or point except her "curiosity" and weird agendas, is it right to not enforce some psychological attention?
I can see this happening again. Maybe the backfire and death threats may prevent her from doing it again... or at least not posting the pictures. Either way someone needs to make sure she is mentally stable before shrugging this off as a silly curiosity of sorts.
Note: Btw I am not an animal lover not a tree huger. I love eating meat, value injured humans getting cured over saving the life of an animal and would probably never date a vegetarian :/
Its just that I find this girls action unreasonable. I reckon it should be a very minor crime, just enough to be addressed.
You keep saying animals experience respect. I keep waiting for evidence. Just because an animal doesn't attack you doesn't mean it respects you (and if that is what "respect" means then predators, by definition, do not respect their prey).Trezu said:
I'm not complaining about what animals do. I'm merely pointing out that your romanticized view of nature is wrong.
I take it you've never owned a cat.
So? First, most predators would rather go after defenseless prey. There's a reason they go after the very old, the very young, or the very sick. Predators don't want a fair fight--helpless prey is the ideal.
Second, why does it matter how she treated the corpse? Some animals play with their prey while it's still ALIVE. She gave it a quick death first.
A bite to the throat is slower than a bullet to the brain. And predators aren't interested in KILLING the prey as fast as possible, but in INCAPACITATING it as fast as possible. As long as it can't fight back they start eating. It is very common for the prey to still be alive and conscious. Which is particularly disturbing if the predator is a snake...(hint: if they start from the feet the animal won't die until it's lungs pop).
BrassButtons said:
Wolves respect one and another as pack mates and will be willing to sacrifice themselves for there pack mates and cubs that shows respect. Infact any animal that roam in packs and have leaders have respect for the leader of the pack. They look after each other it shows love commitment and respect.
It's not wrong my view Is correct but your the one who takes nature as just violent cruel animal filled hell. There are people that live with wolf packs and roam with them and the wolves treat them like pack mates. They don't care that he is different ( look up 'Feral Child' and
Im allergic to cats but if you had tamed your cat and trained it. It wouldn't attack you there are people who have tamed lions to not attack people.
They go after defenseless prey because it's ideal you would be stupid to take of a full grown bear. They want a fight that won't hurt any members of there pack it's for there own safety.
And what do u expect from animals they r unable to use guns to make the pain go quicker then use what they have avaible. I think you just wanna argue with me. I explain stuff to you and you clearly dis regard
That is disgusting. Technically it's legal but I hope she burns in Hell (this is coming from an Atheist BTW)
I give up. I just hope that you never, ever, ever wind up in close quarters with a potentially dangerous animal, because your romanticized view of nature could get you killed.Trezu said:
Trezu said:
here. took me 10 seconds on youtube. A deer getting eaten alive by wolves, you can quite clearly see it moving. Its graphic so ill put it in spoiler tags.
They dont give a damn if its dead as long as its unable to escape.
You've just been one half of what was perhaps the most hilariously idiotic discussion I've seen on here in a long time.Trezu said:
Were you guys just seriously comparing the mentality of wolves to human beings without irony? My God. No facepalm on Earth would be good enough.
Wolves can be incredibly violent. They have no morality at all. They just lack the cognitive ability to really act anywhere outside of instinct. So you can't really blame them.
No wolf on Earth would ever be disturbed by their prey struggling for their lives whilst they devour them. Why? Because they don't have the ability to even process it on an intellectual level. They just do it. Human beings, animals that have the ability to think and apply morality to all sorts of things vary immensely. Billions of us would be very disturbed by what a wolf can do every day. Billions of us wouldn't be.
It's like comparing a watch to a refrigerator and saying "WHAT IS THE BEST TECHNOLOGY???". It's completely arbitrary.
Thanks for making my laugh though guys.
I think that desecration of the body of a recently deceased creature would justify a court taking action in which the accused would have to take some sort of seminar or test or something like that to check their psychological state. I think that she should be referred to a therapist or psychologist of some kind for several reasons. No, I don't think she is crazy; I don't have enough information to justify that. I mean if she isn't phased by cutting up a "living" creature like that, someone else could easily begin to enjoy doing it, going from hobby to job (for example, becomes a butcher), to murderer. There is no evidence that this is happening in this case, but desecration of a body is inhumane; it doesn't have to be human to be inhumane. This doesn't have to extend to fish or bugs, but does anyone else agree with the point I'm trying to get across?
It's a pretty fucked up story. It's nothing illegal if what she said was true though. She killed it humanely. She intended to eat what she could. The posing for pictures isn't even a bad thing. What she did in the pictures is all that makes this fucked up. Besides that what's the difference between this and any hunter killing any animal to be skinned, beheaded, gutted, butchered, eaten, and there's usually a picture taken somewhere in the process either right after the kill is made or with the head being mounted as a trophy or some such.
Well, they shot it to eat while in poor health, so there's no problem there... and it's impossible to "abuse" a dead animal...
So while nothing they've done is illegal or should be illegal, but the question remains... WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!?!?
So while nothing they've done is illegal or should be illegal, but the question remains... WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!?!?
Fieldy409 said:
yeh i would do the same thing its called surviving i am aware of it not being the most clean way to kill someone but at least they do it. not all animal's can be Vegan
they don't really have access to guns to put down a foe quickly. its what they do i can't say that its wrong because its not its how they have to live
Humans do the same thing too alot of animals don't get treated fairly and abused and messed up things happen to them. all the time its not for survival [in most cases] but for fun. They don't kill things for fun they do it for either there Pride or there Hungry and need to feed there pack mates
They shot the horse that was about to be put down anyways, with intentions of eating it. How much more humane (I'm sorry, "noble") do you want them to be? The whole "go inside the horse" thing was a weird spur-of-the-moment WTF moment, but they still ate the horsemeat afterwards. So... you're wrong. Full stop. Try reading the article.Trezu said:
And animals don't care if the prey is dead or alive, they just care if it's not moving. Ever read "Life of Pi"? I recommend it, especially the bit where the hyena guts a zebra with a shattered leg slowly over the course of two to four days and the zebra stays alive for all of it.