Poll: World Domination

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Soushi

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sms_117b said:
Soushi said:
All righty, i do want to say that this is a semi-serious topic. But enough of that:

All right, there has been a lot of talk about the `American Empire` (i`m Canadian by the way) and such. I wonder though, would a world-wide empire help the human race? Would it mean an era of peace and advancement or tyranny and stagnation. Please realize that not everybody can be the emperor, that's my job. Also, please stay away from using movie/game references, but who am i kidding, you won't. So, any thoughts, plans or complaints, lets hear them.
Like hell, I'm the Emperor.

I have my thoughts, most of them involve manipulating the British public leading my to taking over, then securing the oil fields in the Middle East, as many of them as I can. Then fund several militant groups in America before invading myself after demonising them to Europe to reduce backlash, I have thought many times about this. Hence why I'll be the Emperor, so get your knee pads on you'll be using them a lot.
Ha, my good man, you would not stand a chance. Manipulating humanity through force is a laughable notion, ha ha ha (see, laughable) You need to take advantage of economic means. Humans, despite all appearances sometimes, are wily and intelligent creatures and thus, will never be able to be controlled fully by force. America will never be invaded, too much land with too many guns and too many people who know how to use them. Oil may have been a prime target about 5 years ago, but the new target is water, water my good friend. And i already have a plan to dominate it... i won't tell you... because telling you would be a tactical error on my part. Ha Ha Ha. Canada shall rule supreme!!!
 

sms_117b

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Soushi said:
Ha, my good man, you would not stand a chance. Manipulating humanity through force is a laughable notion, ha ha ha (see, laughable) You need to take advantage of economic means. Humans, despite all appearances sometimes, are wily and intelligent creatures and thus, will never be able to be controlled fully by force. America will never be invaded, too much land with too many guns and too many people who know how to use them. Oil may have been a prime target about 5 years ago, but the new target is water, water my good friend. And i already have a plan to dominate it... i won't tell you... because telling you would be a tactical error on my part. Ha Ha Ha. Canada shall rule supreme!!!
I never mentioned taking over the UK through force, politics would be my countries downfall, many simple things would put me completely over for the winning vote with out going to far left or right and even then the unwashed masses wouldn't know what too far is for some topics. Oil is still vital, however my hostile take overs would not necessarily be aimed at the primary resource locations, storage of the billions of liters that various nations have in reserve would be found through espionage and the SAS for either detonation or siphoning, whilst at the same time cornering the Hydrogen market so the rest of the world finds it difficult to receive any, (with the thought that hydrogen cars will be taking over after oil).

Yes invading America currently is impossible, however, after funding some of the more backwards states in America could lead to a civil war if I could send some SAS guys (in costume and fake history) to snipe Obama after funding some of the more aggressive and larger fanatic groups like the KKK and Nazi's basically the white supremacists. Being Americas ally going in there to reinforce would be welcome, but my sneaky SAS would secure American military positions hindering their efforts in the war, the lack of training in the rebels would lead to their ultimate downfall, but, America would still be weaker, primed and already have parts secured, at this point a invasion could possibly occur by taking advantage of the xenophobia and staging fake terrorist attacks on New York killing hundreds of thousands and then a second in Washington DC on a organised memorial day of the New York attack victims killing possibly more. Here I'd step in saying the government cannot protect them anymore, and try similar tactics to what I used in the UK to win over the population as the military is practically already mine. This new power imbalance would shake the world and make Europe very tense, France I'll just bribe as we all know they are cowards giving me a foothold in mainland Europe, wait, why am I divulging all of thi-
 

Timotei

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I don't know why I didn't pick up on this earlier, but the fact the OP created a thread about world domination with a Light Yagami avatar is just hilarious.

To me at least.
 

Veylon

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Stagnation would be the result. Look at China or Japan's history vs. Europe. In the former two countries, power over their whole area was always in the hands of a tiny elite. If X innovation or Y idea was undesirable, it could be repressed. In Europe there were many nations. If Genoa or Portugal said no to Columbus, there was always Spain to try. In China he would've been outta luck. It's not that Europeans were naturally more innovate - look at Japan today - it's just that they were split up.

Condensing the whole world into one political structure ensures that a single elite can decide what's right, preventing other social and political ideas from being tried. A single world government has no peers to compare itself to, no way to find out if it's making the best decisions or not.
 

Jinx_Dragon

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A world wide unified government that could peacefully and legally resolve the worlds problems, share and transport resources and afford the massive scientific programs needed to make the world into something even we can't imagine... all that would be good and such. Such a peaceful utopia world where war is obsolete thanks to a government that can please at least 51% of the billions of souls is a wonderful dream. Yet I've stopped being a dreamer, as sad as that is, cause reality crushed me.

Those who try to make world domination possible don't seem to be the sort that will step aside to a world wide elected figurehead. We can be assured that whoever achieves this feat will be as brutal and demanding a soul as needed to keep the dozens of society structures, century old feuds, intolerableness religious organisations and so on in order. Without that brutality in a world wide government then we would see the whole thing collapse the very first time one social group turned to violence when it didn't get what it wanted.

Frankly... the only people I can think of who could achieve such a feat and keep order are not the sort of people I would feel comfortable having in control of the world.
 

mayney93

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George144 said:
If America hadn't had a tantrum back when it was young then Britain could have overpowered Spain and France, then controlled all of Europe (preventing both world wars.) Then taken over Asia then gone on to have united the world in a golden age of civilisation and fine moustaches.

In short its all the yanks fault.
yes the yanks are the problem today too
 

Nickolai77

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A federal world government (Perhaps something like the United Federal States of Earth) seems like a fundamentally good idea. It would mean that international co-operation be a lot easier, the planets resources can be used and directed towards big projects like colonisation of the Moon or Mars. It also seriously reduces the chances of war, and any radical dissadent organisations can be easily crushed (Imagine the Taliban V The World. A unified world government would mean that resources can be more fairly distributed, energy can be shared, easier to hunt down criminals gone into hiding, international trade improves etc.

The fundamental problem is that this requires that nations sacrifice their own political sovereignty to that of the of federation. You only have to look at the unpopularity of the EU to see the problems of uniting countries together. Humans tend to put their nation first before their own species, rather than the other way round and will therefore resent foreigners having a say in their own affairs. The EU is essentially a microcosm of attempting to bring together nations into a union, anyone interested in the concept of a world government should look into the EU to find the sort of problems this causes.

Also, you have other problems like different cultures, most thorny is Islamic Culture, who, due to their religion and Sharia Law, would possibly make it impossible for them to integrate into a sort of world government. Really, it is probably better and easier to bring together nations that share common values and interests. Perhaps the EU, USA, Commonwealth Nation's like Canada and Australia, possibly India and South Africa, Japan and maybe Taiwan and S.Korea could unite.
 

Doctor_Insano

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i am Canadian as well... a worldwide empire: only if i ran it: i would be a most benevolent dictator, prisons would be sealed deathmatch arenas where they would believe that the lone survivor would be released... haha as if...

peace would coma about after all the "bad people" have been dealt with... you can't make an omelet without shooting a few people
 

Kazturkey

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IckleMissMayhem said:
Kazturkey said:
The brits couldn't even keep full control over as small an island as Ireland. They were cut to bits by the IRA and had to leave.

Tiocfaidh ar la!
NATO's made a huge mess of Iraq and Afghanistan(twice!), and the French and Spanish between then can't sort out ETA. What's your point?!
That the brits never had a chance at world domination because they couldnt keep control over a very small island.
 

Skeleon

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It might, but only if you don't mean a dictatorship by empire (i.e. with an emperor) like you stated in your OP. Dictatorships never work for long but a democratic global state could be more durable. Sure. The UN could do it.
This whole "benign dictator"-idea is very short-sighted, though.
 

ForgetRealism09

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The thing about world domination is people like their freedom. So if someone wants to control the whole world, expect about 6 billion people to not like it. The concept just doesn't work, which I hate to admit after spending all that time dreaming of being Queen of Earth and planning how to organise humanity.