Poll: Would the world be a better place without religion?
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You would get killed first for your indifference.Limasol post=18.71618.736070 said:
Branston > Marmite anyway.
Without religion we sould kill each other with no good reason. It's always better to have a reason.
the internet is not the best place to get a history lesson..especially forum..... try reading a book. like eg. The God That Failed by Louis Fischer and various other authors.
The God That Failed is a 1949 book which collects together six essays with the testimonies of a number of famous ex-Communists, who were writers and journalists.
great read.. rather than reading the opinion of idiots who clearly do not understand communism on this forum
The God That Failed is a 1949 book which collects together six essays with the testimonies of a number of famous ex-Communists, who were writers and journalists.
great read.. rather than reading the opinion of idiots who clearly do not understand communism on this forum
No, because for all the evils that religion supposely brings to this world, it also brings good. But also, if all the religious people followed thier religious laws, then they wouldnt case any problems, seeing as love and peace tends to be the center of most major religions
i said yes but im more in between. religon has causes centuries of war and executions but its always nice to have something to believe in. its just not right to take away someones hopes of someone to help them through life.
didn't believe a word of the bible at the age of 5 so i don't really have a standing. really makes me wonder how for 2000 years people believed someone could walk on water and come back from the dead and another could make water part.
sorry if that offends just my opinion on it
didn't believe a word of the bible at the age of 5 so i don't really have a standing. really makes me wonder how for 2000 years people believed someone could walk on water and come back from the dead and another could make water part.
sorry if that offends just my opinion on it
Would the world be a better place without religion? Yes.
Would the world be a better place without faith? No.
Would the world be a better place without faith? No.
Faith/spirituality is certainly a good thing, it gives us morals and curbs our more violent tendencies.
I'm not so sure about religion, though. It has caused a lot of suffering over the years, and yet it's done a lot of good as well. Religion's good qualities may have outweighed its bad qualities in past centuries, but I don't think it's as necessary as it once was.
Personally I like the Free Mason idea that humans can find God and faith on their own, without religious institutions. My grandfather and uncle (who are Free Masons) say that this idea is one of the key reasons why the religious of the Christian Church (not just the Vatican, but Protestant religious authorities as well) see the Masons as a threat.
I'm not so sure about religion, though. It has caused a lot of suffering over the years, and yet it's done a lot of good as well. Religion's good qualities may have outweighed its bad qualities in past centuries, but I don't think it's as necessary as it once was.
Personally I like the Free Mason idea that humans can find God and faith on their own, without religious institutions. My grandfather and uncle (who are Free Masons) say that this idea is one of the key reasons why the religious of the Christian Church (not just the Vatican, but Protestant religious authorities as well) see the Masons as a threat.
Dudes, let me tell you something. Im sick of people blaming God and stuff for everything bad that happens. God gave us free will, so all tha shit that is happening in the world isn't God's fault. IT IS OURS
You are misunderstanding most of the people here. They don't blame god, they just think he and the entire concept of god is as real or logical as the boogy man. Again, in most people's mind here.ph3onix post=18.71618.739140 said:
As for 'us being resposible' tell me, was smallpox virus, the killer of billions of lives, caused by our actions?
Did humans make the San Francisco earthquake happen?
Was the Black Death that wiped out 35 to 50% of people alive at the time humanity's fault?
Is cancer our doing too?
Are we to blame for Malaria?
Are the Ebola and Sars viruses our fault too?
How are humans to be held accountable for any of those things, as you claim?
You seem to be looking at this from a different angle to those you think are "blaming God." Odds are, these people aren't blaming God but rather his followers for their own wrong doings. If they don't believe God exists, how can they blame him?ph3onix post=18.71618.739140 said:
Even if God did exist, his followers certainly aren't the best spokesmen for him.
I'm sure I'll regret bringing this up but I hate the term "militant atheist." Since when have athiests ever killed anyone over something as petty as beleifs? And I am aware that many athiests use the term themselves. But it's a stupid term.
The problem with religion is that people can interpret the messages it brings to suit their own needs. More often than not these needs are violet or greedy. At least atheists are honest about their evil doings.
The problem with religion is that people can interpret the messages it brings to suit their own needs. More often than not these needs are violet or greedy. At least atheists are honest about their evil doings.
Though I do believe that the world would be better off without religion any attempt to make that a reality would be holocaustic in nature and make the world worse off than it is.
Though the ends are desirable all the means make it ultimately unrealistic and self defeating.
Though the ends are desirable all the means make it ultimately unrealistic and self defeating.
I don't think so. Religion is responsible for alot of music, culture and lifestyles. The world would be a better place without religious extremists, and people who preach their religion to others.
Maybe honest wasn't the best word for it, I meant at least they don't hide behind any god when they are found out as murderers or whatever.Eggo post=18.71618.739370 said:
Edit: Hold on, I think you might have been refering to the whole "when have athiests ever killed people over beleifs" bit. Those two were just plain evil, I highly doubt the death's they killed had anything to do with what they beleived per se, just that such beleifs got in the way of their plans for power. Yes the people they killed were religious, but they were killed because they did not follow all the rules Stalin/Mao had set down.
Personally I believe that people who force Christianity onto other people are ignoring the precepts and purpose.Eggo post=18.71618.736030 said:
It doesn't say "They will know we are Christians..."
- By our persecution of others.
- By legislating morality.
- By starting a secret club.
- By by going to war over who owns a piece of dirt.
- By organizing people.
It does say "They will know we are Christians by our love." Seems like a majority of "Christians" have completely missed out on this, both historically and in the present.
I mean, take 1 John 4:20 for example:
"If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen."
Love for one another should be like the ultimate form of tolerance. Yet ironically "Christians" are often accurately pegged as being intolerant. Why the disconnect?
I totally agree. How does one determine the validity of a set of beliefs when the majority of people claiming to follow them don't successfully? "Christians" are the biggest contributors to ammunition for the anti-Christian sentiments.TheBadass post=18.71618.739355 said:
I have personal beliefs but I would cringe at the association with what has become "mainstream" Christianity.