You could also do an alternate timeline where Zelda is born with the triforce of Courage and it's Prince Link who needs rescue.
Not as interesting tho, I think.
Not as interesting tho, I think.
Poll: Would we all be cool with a female Link?
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Short answer: I'd be cool with that...
Long answer: I'd be cool with that... dude...
Course, Im three pages late, but I can already guess that there is a number of people that are saying no for the obvious reasons.
Long answer: I'd be cool with that... dude...
Course, Im three pages late, but I can already guess that there is a number of people that are saying no for the obvious reasons.
Yup, pretty sure you're right. So... Link has hidden the sword after vanquishing Ganon, and when Ganon gets free again (like always) instead of going after Zelda, he captures Link before he can reclaim the sword. Assuming Zelda is no threat he eliminates Link first for a change, while sending his minions to look for the sword. Zelda in turn tracks down the sword and turns the tables.EvilRoy said:
If Link is the only one who knows where it is (or a descendant) as opposed to just sticking it in a shrine, Ganon would be motivated to capture Link instead, and get the information for himself.
The gameplay woyld remain the same, it would just shift the motivations of the main characters.
Then all triforces, by extention, would become quite meaningless, don't you think?FrozenLaughs said:
btw, Didn't link have a female dungeon crawl buddy somewhere in windwaker?
edit: now that I think about it, no, that would not make all trifoces useless, just the courage one, which would suck far worse for link than a sex change.
Link as a girl would be silly, but I would welcome Zelda being the protagonist of the next Zelda game. I mean, her name is the frickin' title of the series and she hasn't ever had the role of the protagonist yet.
The CDi game doesn't count. It never existed
The CDi game doesn't count. It never existed
Let me try to phrase this delicately: no. No, Link can't be a lady, because Link is (as far as I'm currently aware) a non-transgender dude. The protagonist can be somebody else who IS a lady, but she wont be Link.
The issue I have with this is that a central part of the Zelda games is that Link is a male character. I'd certainly be fine with there being another female in the game, a playable one, but I feel that just like with The Doctor from Doctor Who a central point of his character is being male.TheRiddler said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the plot of all Legend of Zelda games basically "silent protagonist rescues significant other"?
I don't see why not.
I don't see why not.
Haha, Female Link would be really OP.wulf3n said:That to me sounds like a female Link would be a better choice, as she could skip several of the dungeons and save the day fasterCoakle said:
Navi: "Link you need to restore power to the Master Sword!"
Link: 'holds hands on blade'
"Done!"
*victory jingle
"Link" isn't a character. He's just some idiot running around in a man dress. While there have been Links with actual personalities - Wind Waker Link was a loveable oaf, Twighlight Princess Link was kind of a Mary Sue parody in a way, and the Spirit Tracks/Phantom Hourglass Link was humorously deadpan - it's a basic character mold; mute generic guy saves the day.
Would I mind a female link? No. Would I mind a female Link if she's like every one of her previous incarnations with few exceptions? Yes. And I would mind if the latter Link was male, too.
EDIT: So, people have said it'd ruin Link's image (what image?). So, why not introduce a female alternative, but not the same character. I mean, Nintendo don't even need to design her; all they need to do is type in "legend of zelda link rule 63", ask an artist for permission to use the character design, give them a slightly lampooned name. There you go; female alternative.
Would I mind a female link? No. Would I mind a female Link if she's like every one of her previous incarnations with few exceptions? Yes. And I would mind if the latter Link was male, too.
EDIT: So, people have said it'd ruin Link's image (what image?). So, why not introduce a female alternative, but not the same character. I mean, Nintendo don't even need to design her; all they need to do is type in "legend of zelda link rule 63", ask an artist for permission to use the character design, give them a slightly lampooned name. There you go; female alternative.
"Link" reffers to one of several characters. And if you don't count the time gaps when the games don't occur, probably thousands. Wind Waker Link and Zelda 1+2 Link are completely different characters. Oracles Link is completely different from The Hero of Time Link.teamcharlie said:
Anyone can be Link. Anyone. That's pretty much what a blank slate silent protagonist is meant for; to be easily changed to broaden audience appeal.
"What if Zelda was a girl"
Sorry I didn't see anyone else do it.
OT: Couldn't see anything wrong with it, after all they're just the ancestors of the before links and much of their traits are copy paste.
Hmm, now that I think of it, maybe things could be a little wishy washy if they it was female Link and male Zelda. Not the roles or anything, just the names part. It might irk me to have to reason why someone would coincidentally gender-swap their child's name for no good reason. It's nit-picky but still, i'd like it for Zelda to be the heroine instead of Zelda's a guy just because.
Sorry I didn't see anyone else do it.
OT: Couldn't see anything wrong with it, after all they're just the ancestors of the before links and much of their traits are copy paste.
Hmm, now that I think of it, maybe things could be a little wishy washy if they it was female Link and male Zelda. Not the roles or anything, just the names part. It might irk me to have to reason why someone would coincidentally gender-swap their child's name for no good reason. It's nit-picky but still, i'd like it for Zelda to be the heroine instead of Zelda's a guy just because.
My basic attitude is that Link refers to a specific character, who happens to be a guy. Changing his gender is a no-no since it simply won't be Link anymore, even if the concept is one of reincarnation and so on. Link comes with a specific image and expectation. It's sort of like why I complained about them making Heimdall black in the "Thor" movies, Marvel's Heimdall is a specific character who is not black, nothing more or less to it, changing things is nothing more than a PC stunt for the sake of performing one.TheRiddler said:
As I see things if you want a "female Link" then make a new game series with the same basic kind of gameplay and create a female character for it. Or perhaps actually just make a game with Zelda as the direct protagonist (or at least playable), much like Princess Peach wound up getting her own games.
In general if you like a specific kind of game but want a different kind of protagonist, make a new IP, if enough people agree with you, they will come to it on their own. Changing existing IPs radically does generate a lot of hype sadly, and can move units due to controversy, but generally does not wind up leaving behind much of positive value.
I can't find it right at the moment (though I'll probably run into it linked somewhere later when it's not important) but not too long ago I was reading some thing about "the dumbest hype changes in comics history" though that wasn't exactly the title. It was brought out in response to the re-launch of Ms. Marvel and people like Conan O'Brien getting yelled at for making fun of it. It featured such things as the so called "She-Punisher" which advertised itself as "because YOU demanded it" (with the big question of who this "you" they referred to actually was). Along with the somewhat snarky point that comics publishers are apparently getting dumber, both in terms of their general storylines, but also because at least in the past they had the brains to make it fairly clear it was only for a limited run or something they were doing briefly for the amusement value rather than a bona-fide attempt at a character reboot or intended permanent transfer of a mantle. In many cases the mantle never even really transferred, the claims were just based on a story technicality....
At any rate, I'm going off on massive tangents again... basically I'm all for another Zelda-type game with a new IP, but as far as actually making Link a girl, I see no point at all unless it's just to get attention. If an existing character doesn't do what you want, make a new one. The industry is too suck in it's own IPS and labels for it's own good as it is, and the last thing they need is more excuses to keep slapping the existing franchise names onto everything instead of actually creating something.
Right. Let me see if I can set the scene for you as far as why I'm having a problem: "There have been thousands of male incarnations before, but you, Diane, are now the 'Jeff' of legend! All the powers of the Jeffs of old have been transferred into your lady body. Go now, with your vagina and boobs, and rescue the princess, oh mighty Jeff!" Not that I'm saying Diane can't save a princess or even get a kiss or some nookie for her trouble, mind you.dylanmc12 said:
It's that Link is a name. A man name. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to give the protagonist a different name if she's a lady, and I'm not in the business of caring how well Zelda games sell (see, Link isn't even necessarily in the title!).
I wouldn't mind, but I also don't really see the point either.
If the character's gender isn't essential or important to the story, then it's a fairly arbitrary decision (demographic pandering aside, but that's a factor external to the game).
If the character's gender isn't essential or important to the story, then it's a fairly arbitrary decision (demographic pandering aside, but that's a factor external to the game).
http://www.babynames.com/name/LINKLostGryphon said:
It's apparently short for 'Lincoln' and is a traditional boy's name. Why is Jeff/Jeffrey a boy's name? I dunno. But that's how we use it.