Poll: Would you hit a woman in self defence(If it were Ronda Rousey)

[runic knight]

Would I hit a woman in self defense? Yes, why not? Under attack, why should I give a damn what their gender is when they wish to cause bodily harm toward me? Treating someone differently because of gender seems sort of scummy to me and quite frankly, if someone wants to try to harm me, I damn well will try to defend myself.

 

[happyninja42]

I would hit anyone in self defense, if I had no other options. Though my personal distaste for violence at all, would make that unlikely. But yeah, I would punch her. I believe in treating women as equals, and that includes kicking their ass if they bring physical violence at me.

 

[9tailedflame]

This feels like a bad example, because one hit against an MMA champion would feel like just sealing my own doom. In this case, I'd desperately try to run the hell away, i ain't risking my life on the advice of the disembodied voice of a dead woman.

But yea, i don't give a fuck about your gender, if you pose a threat to me, I'm going to preserve my own life FAR before I'm going to adhere to some BS social norm, and if kicking the shit out of someone means i prevent harm to myself, I'll kick some shit.

 

[RedRockRun]

Umm if it were Ronda Rousey, then I'd be defending myself with something a bit more substantial than my fists.

 

[default]

What a fucking stupid thread. Don't hit people at all if it can be helped.

 

[Extra-Ordinary]

When I first read the title, I was thinkin' "hell no", Rousey's comin' at me, I'll just take "bad" instead of "worse" thank you very much.
But now that we've set up a scenario that I have a fighting chance (that's a laugh), my instinct is to say yes.
I mean, if I were attach stings, maybe channel that mystical energy into super speed to get outta there then no but if it had to be a punch, if it was either swing or be turned into a taxidermists' latest experiment, I'm gonna swing.

 

[PainInTheAssInternet]

This is a bad example because this is a situation where I wouldn't even try to hit back because I'm just some softy and she's a very high-ranking professional MMA fighter. I'd just run for all I could.

If the chances were more in my favour and running wasn't an option, yes I would.

 

[EyeReaper]

Huh. Apparently I'm literally the only one (as of right now) who wouldn't hit a lady.

Course, I wouldn't hit a man either, if it matters. Vow of Pacifism. Never shall my mortal flesh come to blows, for only mere animals need to resort to fighting with anything but the mind.

 

[Zhukov]

How is this even a question?

Sure, I subscribe to the notion that hitting women is decidedly uncool, but if I'm being attacked by someone who I know for a fact is fucking dangerous then damn straight I'm going to hit them, gender be damned.

The situation you describe is one in which she hasn't even swung at you. She hasn't brandished a weapon and she hasn't touched you so if you hit her there's a very good chance it wouldn't be considered self-defense. So yeah, regardless of the gender of the hypothetical assailant they're not at the point in which its considered self-defense.

What?

Are you basing this off actual legal knowledge?

Because where I'm from that is most definitely a case of self defense. A person is aggressively advancing on you in a combative stance while stating their intent to do you harm. You can reasonably assume your safety to be under threat. That's self defense as all hell.

Also, the law accounts for combative training. Someone with training using their fists (or feet or knees or elbows or what have you) can be considered assault with a deadly weapon.

 

[Tsaba]

well, they do want to be treated as equals..... and I do enjoy breathing... so yeah......

 

[immortalfrieza]

Any situation in which I would hit a man without a second thought I will also hit a woman without a second thought, since I have only considered the differences between the genders to be limited to an entirely physical level. That isn't really saying much though since it would take a lot to get me to want to and try to hit someone period, self defense is obviously one of them, deliberately trying to provoke me into doing so is another, and well, everybody has their breaking point.

 

[the December King]

It depends on what I am in the scenario.

If I'm a smaller dinosaur, then I'll rip her throat out when she tries to hug me. I'll bet a grappler would be in for a helluva surprise when there are that many talons and teeth coming at you!

If I'm a bigger dinosaur then I'd just bite her in two. I might not even register a threat, to be honest.

If I'm a goose, I'd arm-bar her first. Geese are crazy skilled at pro sports.

If I'm a pirate I'd shoot her. But if I missed I'd go down like a sack of poop after one punch. But it would look cool, and there'd be epic pirate music playing, and I'd likely get tossed off the deck, shrieking into the frothing sea! Awesome.

Cowboy, same as pirate. exactly the same as pirate.

If it was, however, just me, then I would be in a lot of trouble, because I cannot fight. I'm not much of a runner, either. I read that Gina Carrano could generate 800 lbs of force with a kick, easily enough to break the bones of any but the most skilled counter deflection, and actually more force than men equal to her size/weight category.I mention this only because based on this I can imagine that Rousey is not too far off of that mark, even if her strength is not kicking.

One thing I won't do is send her a dick pic.

 

[Ihateregistering1]

The situation you describe is one in which she hasn't even swung at you. She hasn't brandished a weapon and she hasn't touched you so if you hit her there's a very good chance it wouldn't be considered self-defense. So yeah, regardless of the gender of the hypothetical assailant they're not at the point in which its considered self-defense.

What?

Are you basing this off actual legal knowledge?

Because where I'm from that is most definitely a case of self defense. A person is aggressively advancing on you in a combative stance while stating their intent to do you harm. You can reasonably assume your safety to be under threat. That's self defense as all hell.

It basically just comes down to what a "reasonable person" would do. In a case like the one OP made, yeah, it's pretty clear cut that any reasonable person is going to see that she intends to do them harm, and they don't have to sit there and wait for her to punch them in the face (or armbar their dick off).

This even extends into using firearms. If you're a 120 lb woman and you get attacked by a 275 lb man who's built like JJ Watt, you can actually shoot him, even if he doesn't have a weapon, because a reasonable person is going to know how much damage someone over twice your weight can do, and know that your chances of being able to go toe to toe with him are pretty much zilch.

Depending on where you are, you're not necessarily required to try and run away first either ("stand your ground" laws).

 

[Something Amyss]

If media has taught me one thing, it['s that women are powerless of you grab them by the wrist. No need to hit a woman, guys.

 

[Drathnoxis]

Where's the option to fall to the ground crying and screaming because I know that, despite what some voice in my head says, there's no way I could end her in one punch? Heck, I'm so horrendously untrained, I'd probably miss her altogether, even with a huge ghost opening.

 

[the December King]

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Very well put, MarsAtlas, except I do have a problem with that last line. When it is her lifelong training to dispatch people swiftly and bare-handed, without actually throwing a punch at all, there is definitely room for an argument to be made, that an untrained person would only have one recourse, to lash out and pray. This is one of those weird situations where the profession of the 'victim' would have to be called into relevance- she can easily incapacitate and kill people with her hare hands.

Now if you can escape, then absolutely, I concur! Frankly I cannot grasp a situation where Ronda is confronting me and preparing to beat me up... if I have a vector of escape I'd try for it, damn straight. But if cornered, and facing a beating of a lifetime, well, I'm not going to worry about whose going to look bad at the trial afterwards, I'm going to defend myself.

 

[Ryallen]

Only if I can scream "ORA" while I'm doing it. That is the ONLY way to punch someone. Well, that, or doing so screaming in a high pitched voice.