Poll: Would you kick a puppy?
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Only if I knew it would die instantly. I don't want to cause it any pain. But yeah I would. I wouldn't even do it for money. That would make me seem like a greedy bastard.
I kicked the roommate's cat a couple days ago. Does that count?
This cat (It's name is Naboo...The roommate is a huge Star Wars nerd) hates people. Like, about as much as the sun would hate having water poured on it. She only wants people around on her schedule, and when she's done with you, her preferred way of letting you know is teeth. Even if you were caving to one of her "Pet me!" moments.
Anyway, the cat jumped up into my lap, head-butted my nose and gave me a nosebleed. And then she clawed me when my cry of pain scared her.
I didn't kick her hard...Just enough to scare her out of my way on my run to the bathroom.
Anyway, no. I wouldn't kick that puppy for 15 bucks, not if it had to be hard enough to hurt it. I might if I just had to toe it.
This cat (It's name is Naboo...The roommate is a huge Star Wars nerd) hates people. Like, about as much as the sun would hate having water poured on it. She only wants people around on her schedule, and when she's done with you, her preferred way of letting you know is teeth. Even if you were caving to one of her "Pet me!" moments.
Anyway, the cat jumped up into my lap, head-butted my nose and gave me a nosebleed. And then she clawed me when my cry of pain scared her.
I didn't kick her hard...Just enough to scare her out of my way on my run to the bathroom.
Anyway, no. I wouldn't kick that puppy for 15 bucks, not if it had to be hard enough to hurt it. I might if I just had to toe it.
Hell no...
I hate dogs, but I couldn't bring myself to intentionally hurt animals [unless in a self-defence situation], and whoever says they would deserves to be given a good ol'kick themselves...
I hate dogs, but I couldn't bring myself to intentionally hurt animals [unless in a self-defence situation], and whoever says they would deserves to be given a good ol'kick themselves...
More like rashernal creatures, amirite?falconsgyre said:
Frankly, we have to talk about how heavy this puppy is, because I'm not breaking a toe for such a small amount of money. Also, I need to be assured that the RSPCA or the police aren't getting involved.
Then we can talk.
15$? bugger that. Give me 40 POUNDS and you got a deal!
Yeah but other than my terrible evil, corruptible self, I can understand the reasons NOT to kick a puppy, then again there are worse evils in the world and it'll mean it's more likely to get a new better owner if it's been harmed in the past 'it's last owner kicked him when he was young' and everyone would be like d'aaww I wanna adopt him and feel sorry for him for the rest of it's poor likkle life, so in the end I'm actually doing it a favor if you think about it - it'll just end up on some foreign restaurant plate otherwise.
Oh and if it's a chiwawa I will do it for you for half price, some things aren't meant to be in nature.
Yeah but other than my terrible evil, corruptible self, I can understand the reasons NOT to kick a puppy, then again there are worse evils in the world and it'll mean it's more likely to get a new better owner if it's been harmed in the past 'it's last owner kicked him when he was young' and everyone would be like d'aaww I wanna adopt him and feel sorry for him for the rest of it's poor likkle life, so in the end I'm actually doing it a favor if you think about it - it'll just end up on some foreign restaurant plate otherwise.
Oh and if it's a chiwawa I will do it for you for half price, some things aren't meant to be in nature.
Have you ever worked with animals? have you had pets and actually paid attention to them? If you have then you would know that they are capable of intelligence and more than just instinct. My parents are vets and I have been surrounded by animals my whole life, I KNOW first-hand that they are not stupid. They observe, they learn, they think, they feel. I agree, not to the degree humans do, but that does not make them devoid of intelligence.AlexNora said:
Yes, the ones we eat can be intelligent, but they are killed for food, for something we need to survive, and they would not be there if we did not need them for food. Cows and pigs would not exist in the numbers they do were it not for us using them for food.
But when an animal is hurt or killed when it is not necessary, then my blood boils, it is unnecessary suffering and pain on the part of a creature that has done NOTHING to you. Especially a dog, they are raised as friends and family among people, and then out of the blue it gets this treatment because some jerk wants $15? That is sick.
Human beings are creatures of emotion. Any one who never makes a decision based on emotion is either still an infant or a psychopath. People who will do anything for their own gain without considering the pain the cause are widely considered to be psychopathic.
I place the dog higher than you because the dog didn't give you permanent injury for $15 dollars. It has no malicious intent, no greed, you do. Based on that, who should I put higher on the ladder? You have also implied that I am not using logic, which is insulting, and possibly true: I am being caring, not cold and logical, because that is what makes a decent person, being caring and having a little thing called empathy. You know, understanding the pain of other's and that they indeed do feel it and do suffer, animals included.
Causing suffering for your own good is greed. Causing suffering that is not necessary is cruelty. Causing suffering and not caring, not even thinking of the sufferer as a being deserving anything better is borderline evil.
Should I really think of you, someone who is saying that given this situation, they would be cruel, greedy and evil over a puppy that is innocent and has done nothing wrong to you?
Now you are just trolling me.
Okay, you have quoted that entirely wrong, you put MY statement in his quote! Please, fix it naow, I make good argument, you bold it, and THEN put it in the wrong person's quote. Thank-you for acknowledging what I said, but PLEASE fix it, I feel desecrated an insulted when this happens.rmb1983 said:
Sorry to sound irritated, But I just cannot stand this other person's rather... evil view. And thank-you for recognising that, I'm just... irritated by said AlexNora right now.
No. I am a dog person. I would never kick or hurt one.
And yet, I am a soulless bastard. I just love dogs.
And yet, I am a soulless bastard. I just love dogs.
F*ck that, I'm petting that puppy and telling the person who offered the money to go to hell. Seriously, why would you do that?!