Poll: Would you kidnap a child?

[Talshere]

If a child without majority is being prevented lifesaving treatment that doesn't have clear massive drawbacks by his/her parents should have the right of consent transferred to a Doctor or social worker. Even a treatment with drawbacks should clearly have been seriously considered or again consent should be given to a social worker.

Ignorance is not a good reason to let people die.

 

[PunkyMcGee]

Kidnapping is unethical. It's not unreasonable to pray even in such extreme and laughable circumstances.

It's not about prayer, it's about people knowingly killing a child through their ignorance, and the chance if you'd prevent the death, or let it happen.

There was a time where it was "scientific" and "medical" to treat mental disorders with lobotomies.

Also, chemotherapy is a treatment that needs time, patience, and support from the family.

Imagine if will the role was flipped. when a religious sect kidnaps a child "for their own good".

 

[PunkyMcGee]

Imagine if will the role was flipped. when a religious sect kidnaps a child "for their own good".

Except 'their own good' is very measurable in this instance, and you are actually comparing death, to adhering to a particular set of myths.

Whether or not I agree with their ideals is irrelevant. The variable would be, what if the child sides with his parents? After all, it was how he would of been raised. To me, the ability to make your own decisions and face the consequences of them, is what it is to be human.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Wait, wouldn't the child be taken off of them anyway for neglect or abuse? Or does it not work like that in the US?People have had their children taken away from them for less drastic reasons. I'm fairly sure refusing to treat your child for cancer comes under child abuse laws.

 

[Kinguendo]

No, because in Europe we have our brains implanted inside our rectums.

Europe is a pretty big place, are you sure about that statement?

 

[PunkyMcGee]

Ussually however with anti-choicers etc.

If you want to say that your whole argument goes out the window. The whole "kids dying" angle has been the apex of your argument so far. that's how they stand on abortion. how is what they are saying any different than what you are saying? BTW Not to say I'm "pro-life" nor am I "Pro-abortion".

 

[Ledan]

No,
I'd call child services. They'd take the child to hospital and the parents to court. Kid would probably be taken from their care.

 

[Ralphfromdk]

That's not kidnapping. That's called saving.

You are saving the child from some people who are directly trying to kill the child.

 

[PunkyMcGee]

If you want to say that your whole argument goes out the window.

Why? For being too true? Not going in ridiculous apologetic language used solely by a bunch of horrid religious extremists?
The anti-choicers are the ones who want to ruin lives and harm people. Any claim that they care in the slighest about any life outside of their own selfish gain is ludicrous.

Not all religious people are zealots. and I may be missing something how are these thing "their own selfish gain"? no one "gains" on bigotry.

I believe my original stance has been missed I believe that a person has the right to do what they want unless it hinders others form doing what they want. To say that "Gays are evil" is wrong. but so is saying "religion breeds hate". Your lumping religion as a group of bigots, is a bigoted statement in itself. not to say they not some, just not all.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Seems unnecessary. I really don't like kids. I also don't think that I know better how to raise a kid than people who actually have to, even in cases of gross negligence. The kid successfully made it through life to that point in time and I had nothing to do with it, so how should I "know what's best" for the child? Too many people around anyways and I don't particularly care for the crazy variety, which if the kid survived, he/she would most likely become.

 

[kasperbbs]

No. Whats the point? What would i do? Where would i go with that kid? I would get arrested soon and it's not like hospitals are like mcdonalds, 'one cancer treatment for the kid, thanks!'

 

[j0frenzy]

No. While I would feel bad for the kid and be trying to get him help, the reality of the situation is that I would get arrested by the police long before I could provide any miracle help to cancer. That shit takes months of treatment at best to have any meaningful effect if it is going to have one at all. The police would catch up to me in less than a day, since people tend to get rather worked up over kidnapping and the hospital staff have no reason to protect, since they are then considered accomplices. So yeah, logic of the situation says calling child services is the better plan.
Also, some people may want to forgo any treatment at all. A lot of doctors who are diagnosed with cancer actually undergo no treatment because they know that generally the best case scenario is a couple extra months of living, but living in pain, nausea, fatigue and being generally uncomfortable. Just putting that out there.

 

[Harker067]

Yeah child protective services is probably the better idea.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Usually its too late to call the police by the time they know whats going on. Go google search "Child dies because of parents religion" All of them are put in court for child negligence. If the police were informed the situation would of been resolved.

I wouldn't take too much from Family Guy, while an funny show it should never be taken with even the slightest scrap of realism.

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Still if the police did nothing, if social services did nothing. Then yes possibly I would. I would have to pay for his medical care with no insurance. However, I'm sure once the media got a hold of the story I would be branded a hero. Or possibly go to jail for 25 years...

 

[A BigCup of Tea]

Just ask the kids in my basement! But honestly i more than likely couldn't bring myself to do it

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

It's not my responsibility. I'm not here to go around taking care of everyone in the world being screwed by their parents. I also plain don't want to.