Poll: Would you rather live five years past the point you wish to die?

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Matthew Jabour

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Most people would like to live as long as possible. The striations of humanity can be summed up to 'live as long as possible'. But here's my question. Let's say there's a point where you are fully ready to die. You've lived a full life, and your time has come. Would you rather die then, or continue living for five years? You won't be happy past that point, and you might even want to die, but instead you continue living for five more years.
 

Sleepy Sol

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This seems like a rather odd question since you're not really mentioning any further benefit from choosing to survive 5 more years besides simply living a little longer.

Maybe I just don't assign as much importance to being alive as some others, but I'd definitely throw in the towel after a full life.
 

Aerosteam

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Who wouldn't want to see the extended cut of your own life?
 

Tayh

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I don't think I'll ever get tired of living.
At least not as long as there is such a thing as the internet and cat pictures/gif's/videos/holographs/virtual realities.
 

Mezahmay

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If it's my time, it's my time. As funny as the idea of a snooze button for death sounds, it isn't something I want for me.

*death alarm goes*
*mumbles* Uh...just five more years!
*hits snooze button*
*goes back to life*
 

ZZoMBiE13

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No thanks.

Rather than "Live as long as possible" I'm way more focused on "Live as well as possible". I'll take 60 years of great over 80 years of meh any day.
 

Saltyk

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Well, this question is a bit odd. Is there a downside to living another five years? As long as I'm in good health, stable financially, and happy, why wouldn't I want to live as long as possible?

If you asked me if I would want to live past the point that I was able to take care of myself without constant assistance, or in constant agony, this would be totally different. But just adding five years to add five years, why not?
 

babinro

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That's a strange question for me because I'm in a position where I'm 'ready do die'.

I've accomplished any and all life goals I wanted to achieve and if I were to pass away tonight I'd have no regrets. That said, I'm only in my mid-30's and will likely continue to live on for much much longer. I guess you could say I'm already in the 5 years passed point of my life.

I don't believe that you should hold on to life as long as possible simply to live.
 

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If I want to die, I think I want to die, not waste 5 more years.

But right now I'm heading for immortality, so that should be no problem!
 

Matthew Jabour

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DANGER- MUST SILENCE said:
I thought I was ready to die at 19. Turns out I wasn't, I was just depressed. I turned things around, and most of the things I've done that make my life meaningful to others took place after that. So if I had died when I thought I was ready, my life would have been pointless. I would have never amounted to anything other than a parasite who consumed (food, money, time, people's emotional energy) and gave nothing back.

People are often terrible judges of what the scope of our lives is because our point of view is so limited. That's why I think the best attitude is to be ready to die (as in prepared to accept that possibility and aware of your own mortality) but to fight to stay alive as long as is ethically supportable, and in the mean time live so that your life is of value to others.

Just in case someone is going to try and turn this into a euthanasia discussion, I'm not saying people can't choose to die when they want to or that we should have a law against it or anything so mundane.

I'm just saying that from everything we know about the cosmos, life is fantastically rare. Life which is intelligent enough to have a self-identity it is consciously able to distinguish from other intelligences is even rarer- it may be down to us and like 5 other species. Life which has the exact same consciousness and experiences and identities as you- well, that's pretty much down to just you. In all of the estimated 160 billion light years of the estimated universe [http://htwins.net/scale2/], in the entire ~14 billion year history of the universe and the possible trillion years the universe is expected to continue before its destruction, there will never be another entity with the same experiences and consciousness of you[footnote]until/unless someone develops/d brain duplication on a quantum level[/footnote]. The typical notion of human value is something along the lines of value = 1/rarity * utility, the rarer something is and the more useful something is, the more valuable it is. You are infinitely rare, so as long as your utility is > 0 (you contribute something of value to anyone around you) you are infinitely valuable.

The thing is, people rarely understand what they contribute to people around them, so I think its very bad to just be cavalier with one's life. I can understand deciding not to live longer if someone has a painful terminal disease or is in such an advanced state of age that they can't see themselves ever being anything but a burden on others (I don't agree with it, but I understand it). But to die simply because one is ready to die? That sounds profoundly wasteful to me, like the people that put gold flakes on their food instead of using that gold to make something of value that can be enjoyed by everyone.
That's not what I meant. I'm talking about 87 years old, end of the line, would be perfectly happy to die now, knows that any time past that would not be enjoyable. Would 5 years be worth it just to stick around longer, or would it better to just go out on a high note?
 

Apollo45

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There are always more activities to do, more stuff to see, more things to learn, more life to live. Assuming I'm not crippled or addled to the point of not being me, I'd take five years past when I'm "ready" to die any day.
 

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Strange, it seems like you're basically asking us if we would want to live if we wanted to die. Fuck that, I'm an animal and my instinct is to survive. Every second I can claw from the reaper is a gift. Those five years could give me a chance to see another grandchild born, my offspring wed, five more years with the woman I love or some new pivotal moment of history. I could live to see the world at peace or cancer cured for all I know.

Plus old people have all the fun, getting drunk at lunch time at the pub because they don't have to work anymore, pursueing hobbies they never had time for when they were young...
 

Lilani

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Matthew Jabour said:
That's not what I meant. I'm talking about 87 years old, end of the line, would be perfectly happy to die now, knows that any time past that would not be enjoyable. Would 5 years be worth it just to stick around longer, or would it better to just go out on a high note?
I know a woman who just turned 91 years old last month. This last Sunday she talked to me about her trip to Tibet with her husband. I asked her when she visited there, expecting sometimes in the 60s 70s or 80s. 2002, she said. 12 years ago she was there, at age 79. And she's still driving herself everywhere, as well. She recently took a driving test just for kicks and she passed with flying colors.

There's a lot old people can do as long as they've still got their health and their mind. I can see the sense in someone contemplating clocking out early if their health is gone and has no chance of coming back, but if I've still got some juice in me I'm going to keep going as long as I can.
 

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Eh... I don't know...

I won't be able to answer this question truthfully until that moment actually happens... which, at this point, I have no idea when that's going to happen nor do I want to guess when that's going to happen, anyway...

In other words, I'll keeping swinging until I had enough and, right before the bell sounds, I'll hit life with another uppercut...
 

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Hmm. It depends. On one hand, if I found I was completely satisfied with my life and there was no major back-tracking in the subsequent five years, just nothing else that was exceptionally fulfilling, then I would go with the extended life. I mean, after all, I'm already living a satisfied life.

More difficult, however, are the times that a bad death can foil a good life. E.G. A prolonged health battle that ends in constant pain and hardship for ones family & friends.

In that case, I suppose I'd opt for the early death.
 

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ZZoMBiE13 said:
No thanks.

Rather than "Live as long as possible" I'm way more focused on "Live as well as possible". I'll take 60 years of great over 80 years of meh any day.
This seems to be 60-70 years of great and then 5 years of meh.

I probably would. Once I'm dead, I'm dead so I may as well take the extra five years of being here.
I rather like it here, even when I'm not at my happiest.
 

ZZoMBiE13

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Colour Scientist said:
ZZoMBiE13 said:
No thanks.

Rather than "Live as long as possible" I'm way more focused on "Live as well as possible". I'll take 60 years of great over 80 years of meh any day.
This seems to be 60-70 years of great and then 5 years of meh.

I probably would. Once I'm dead, I'm dead so I may as well take the extra five years of being here.
I rather like it here, even when I'm not at my happiest.
Eh. Set it up however you like. The only way I'd be willing to stick around after my natural lifespan is if there were a zombie apocalypse and I was one of the zombies.
 

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DANGER- MUST SILENCE said:
The typical notion of human value is something along the lines of value = 1/rarity * utility, the rarer something is and the more useful something is, the more valuable it is. You are infinitely rare, so as long as your utility is > 0 (you contribute something of value to anyone around you) you are infinitely valuable.
Note: Not actually how math works.

Value an easily ordered attribute but a subjective, metaphysical concept. A spoon with a hole and no grip is certainly unique and might have utility as decoration or throwing weapon, but it is still less valuable to me than a spoon that actually works even though there is an abundance of those.

Wishing to die is a subject I'm not very comfortable with. Life is not always preferable to death and I think there is a clear distinction between living and being made to survive. At the same time, human nature dictates that our mood and judgements are subject to change. How exactly are we supposed to bring harmony to the concepts of volatile emotional states and irreversible actions such as taking life? I don't have an easy answer.
 

CrystalShadow

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Well... Tricky question.
And also more than a little confusing.

But.. I would say yes. If only because I've been through periods where I've really wanted to die, but haven't, and you find out later on that there was still something interesting to do, even if I never really did end up feeling as though it was worthwhile...

It's just... The unknown, the possibilities of what could still happen that you hadn't anticipated.

I don't live my life with a plan, or concrete goals, so it'd be hard to say what would happen.

I mean, 7 years ago I wrote a novel I never expected to write...
On top of that, later I started to write more, which I also didn't expect.

That's not a static goal. There's always room for more...

I mean, I did at times joke about living for 10,000 years... But this was in relation to questions about immortality.

Basically, it came down to thinking that while a human life-span seems kind of short, actually living 'forever' would probably be quite tedious after a while...
I figured 10,000 years is long enough to witness a lot of things, even those that happen slowly, but short enough not to drive a person completely insane if they actually lived that long...

That's... me going off on a tangent though...

Couldn't help it. Your question was a bit too vague to work with. XD