Poll: Would you resolve your origin?
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Well, would you agree that there are only four hypothetical options.Necrofudge said:
1: Time travel is impossible.
2: There is a causality force that will 'act' to prevent changes.
3: Whatever will happen, or you want to happen, has already happened.
4: You can in fact, kill your grandfather.
would you agree?
I think the idea is that you wouldn't exist and because of that you would be immortal. You guys are too focused on how you came to be but the idea is more like, by causing yourself not to exist in the first place you exist as an entity outside of time. Paradox is averted by the fact that you never truly began and as such it is possible for you to murder someone who is/isn't actually related to you. Thus the term "resolve your origin."
Honestly going by the idea that immortality sucks. I would say no, even if my mom totally did deserve it.
Honestly going by the idea that immortality sucks. I would say no, even if my mom totally did deserve it.
Wouldn't that mean I cease to exist rather than making me immortal? On the basis of what you are saying however yes, providing I am assured that I will continue to live.
Surely you could prevent your birth by doing something more subtle than murder. Might I suggest giving a flower to one of your parents on the day you are conceived (before the act)? Let chaos theory take care of the rest.
I would guess that your parents' memory of you would then be lost. But I'm more a fan of the divergent timelines approach. And I'm assuming you can just shoot yourself or whatever when you get sick of living: it's just "You stop aging."
What happens if you go back to kill your ancestor, erasing your origin, but then go back to stop yourself from killing your ancestor after you've become immortal?
I would guess that your parents' memory of you would then be lost. But I'm more a fan of the divergent timelines approach. And I'm assuming you can just shoot yourself or whatever when you get sick of living: it's just "You stop aging."
What happens if you go back to kill your ancestor, erasing your origin, but then go back to stop yourself from killing your ancestor after you've become immortal?
Yes and kill my father as apparently he's a good for nothing nobody.
I think that time travel wise, if your in the same frame of reference as the ancestor you killed, you still exist, but in the time line from then on out, you won't be born again. But for the frame of reference before you go back, i.e the yoctosecond before the yoctosecond you appear, you'll still be born there
I think that time travel wise, if your in the same frame of reference as the ancestor you killed, you still exist, but in the time line from then on out, you won't be born again. But for the frame of reference before you go back, i.e the yoctosecond before the yoctosecond you appear, you'll still be born there
All right then. I'll go through each possibility:Necrofudge said:
1. Pretty self evident, and increases the shame I should be feeling for writing this shite out.
2. I'd like to see this causality force in work, wouldn't it have to be somewhat conscious? Chronos perhaps? Maybe the greeks were right and Zues is mad at us whenever thunder strikes...
3. I'd like to believe that we have free will and everything isn't predictable and causally created, that would be a pretty lame universe, but its possible, and probably likely.
4. This happens to be what i believe. Theres no reason why you should presuppose that matter has an intrinsic history of causation that has to make sense.
Damn...and I thought this was a thread about retconning. Heh...
While immortality is always nice, that sounds way too risky. Time travel never ends well, especially with my luck.
Besides, I couldn't live with myself knowing that my immortality came at the price of someone else's life. What's the point of a guilt-ridden eternity?
While immortality is always nice, that sounds way too risky. Time travel never ends well, especially with my luck.
Besides, I couldn't live with myself knowing that my immortality came at the price of someone else's life. What's the point of a guilt-ridden eternity?
