This is what I'm reading. I'm at a lose as to how I could misunderstand these three statements (And the forth one not in bold shouldn't have a baring on police action either).Vredesbyrd67 said:It depends on the situation, as always; what are they protesting? Are they full of shit, or do they have credibility? Do I agree with them? Are they doing more damage than the cause they are protesting for is worth?
I love you.ucciolord1 said:Absolutely not. Not even those Tea Party whackjobs.
Yeah, rubber bullets are non-lethal. Tear gas probably wouldn't do much, since they're always crying about something anyways.heyheysg said:Your commanding officer orders you to start throwing tear gas and shoot rubber bullets and thosehippiesover-privileged disingenuous college students who never worked a god damn day in their life but have the audacity to call me the "Great Satan" while I'm trying to make an honest living on peanut wages while their upper middle class mommy and daddy pay for everything and are more of the cause to the problem than I am but their idiot offspring are too hypocritical to see it.
What do you do and why?
I could retort by saying that assuming that by asking myself, "do I agree with them", that if the answer was "no" I would automatically switch the safety off and go Bruce Campbell on some bitches demonstrates quite a lot of presumptuousness on your part, and that by avoiding asking oneself "do I agree with what my superiors are telling me to do", one is doomed to live as a mindless follower and slave to socio-political norms. However, I get the feeling your failure to grasp the meaning behind my argument is due to you being either an unusually articulate troll, or a self-righteous bellicose who cares more about winning arguments against other people than admitting that he jumped the gun in judging the words of another human being on an Internet forum. So I'm just going to let this matter drop without another word.AccursedTheory said:This is what I'm reading. I'm at a lose as to how I could misunderstand these three statements (And the forth one not in bold shouldn't have a baring on police action either).Vredesbyrd67 said:It depends on the situation, as always; what are they protesting? Are they full of shit, or do they have credibility? Do I agree with them? Are they doing more damage than the cause they are protesting for is worth?
Plain as day. You'd shoot those with which you don't agree with, yet throw down your weapon if you agreed with their cause. Thats called bias, something you're allowed to have, but not allowed to act on (Or supposed to anyway. Looking in the news and you'd think otherwise) when you're a cop. Which was my original point.Vredesbyrd67 said:It depends on the situation, as always; what are they protesting? Are they full of shit, or do they have credibility? Do I agree with them? Are they doing more damage than the cause they are protesting for is worth?
Simply put, if I agreed philosophically with the "hippies", I wouldn't hesitate to throw down my gun and walk away. I've done things like that before, I can do them again.
Most likely I would side with them. There're a few instances, though, where I'd gleefully fire my (rubber) bullets into a crowd of protesters. For example, the fuckwits that protest at the funerals of war veterans. Even though the Iraq war is based on a lie, that doesn't give you the right to dishonor a person who honestly thought they were sacrificing their life for a good cause, especially at their own fucking funeral.
Sorry, I have a bad tendency of taking people a little too seriously when it comes to subjects like this.SimuLord said:Easy there, Smacky. Taking sociopathic Internet Tough Guys seriously when they're cracking jokes could do to your mental health what those rubber bullets did to your gut.James_Sunderland said:Try saying that again when you actually take several rubber bullets to the gut, like I did.SimuLord said:Start throwing tear gas and shooting rubber bullets (and then only if they wouldn't let me shoot lead bullets.)
Where's the fun in joining law enforcement if you don't get to ruin people's shit? I'm Chaotic Neutral. I sure as fuck don't care about being all Boy Scout about it. I probably joined something like an army purely for my own sociopathic ends.
You won't be able to, what with all the coughing up blood and bruises the size of baseballs and whatnot.
Sociopathic power-fantasies are all well and good until one day you're on the wrong side of them.
I would never shoot someone with a rubber bullet because I actually know what it feels like to get hit by one and don't wish it on anybody else.
Don't go saying that you would do this or do that until you actually know what's it like to be on the recieving end.
Yes, yes I would. But you mistake my nature. I'm not some paragon of friendship and camaraderie. I don't hold my friendships higher than my own personal convictions and moral reasoning. No matter how I see it, firing into a crowd, is wrong. But then again by my very nature I despise anyone that tries to inhibit the freedom of another person. Those people have the right to protest. The most likely reason for my going through all that training would probably be for my own reasons. Whatever they may be. I am not someone who forms "bonds" with other people. People to me are superfluous. But despite that it doesn't mean I can stand back and watch as the freedoms of others are trod upon.Cheveyo said:Kyouki1980 said:I turn around and shoot my commanding officer then drop the tear gas amongst the soldiers or police around me.heyheysg said:Let's say you joined the Police/Army and called out to face the mob of the day.
Some are protesting War, corrupt Governments, Workers rights.
So they're basically sitting there jamming up traffic, reducing tourism.
Your commanding officer orders you to start throwing tear gas and shoot rubber bullets and those hippies.
What do you do and why?
So, let me get this straight.
You just spent the last several years of your life training day in and day out to join this group of people. You've bled with these people. They're more than just coworkers because you need to be able to trust them with your life and they need to be able to do the same.
And because you were asked to fire NON-LETHAL rounds to disperse a group of protesters, you would break that trust you formed and spit in the face of the friendships you've made over the years?