Poll: Would you try heroin if it were legal?

[similar.squirrel]

Fuck no. I'm not going anywhere near recreational opiates.

I like hallucinogens, MDMA and THC.
Cocaine, heroin, meth, ket and garbage of that ilk are off the table, though. There's far too much potential for things to go wrong. Far too addictive, and the effects aren't even supposed to be that interesting compared to, say, acid or salvia. Don't see why anybody would spend a lot of money on something that's just 'nice', instead of interesting.

 

[ZeroMachine]

No, I wouldn't, because it's fucking HEROIN.

You know, I was going to say something sarcastic along the lines of "no, I enjoy my life, health, and brain."

But I feel like you explained it perfectly.

 

[ffs-dontcare]

I heavily hate smoking and loathe smokers so I wouldn't even go anywhere near heroin (or any drug for that matter).

 

[Darkmantle]

Nope. This is anecdotal, but a buddy of mine died on a bad hit of heroin. It was his first time. Seems to me that it's like playing Russian roulette with your veins.

 

[-Dragmire-]

Needles freak me out, so no. I also try to avoid chemicals that alter my mental state(I occasionally drink alcohol, but very little when I do).

 

[NezumiiroKitsune]

No, I've been around heroin addicts, I'm not stupid enough to think there is such a thing as a controlled abuse of the drug.
Anyone who does is a fucking fool.

Heroin, or diactylmorphine, is still used in hospitals as an analgesic. There is such thing as a controlled dose.

Except it's mainly used in palliative care. Where dosing the crap out of someone with diamorphine is not going to have long term effects.

Palliative care isn't only for end-stage terminal patients, it's used at all stages of treatment to relieve suffering, and nor does it not matter how much you give someone. The amount a terminally ill cancer patient receives should not, legally speaking, exceed the maximum that can be prescribed.

With heroin you received from a hospital, you are at no significant risk of anything but constipation and dependency.

It's not as though heroin is some black arcane bile of demonic abominations, consumed with the desire to rend you apart. There are a lot more dangerous prescription drugs than heroin, they just occupy a larger group that don't get you high. Look at prednisone or sulfamethoxazole.

 

[Theron Julius]

I avoid any and all addictive substances. Why would one want to surrender control like that? I just don't get it. Plus it doesn't help that there's almost always something better you could be spending your money on. Even if there isn't, you could be saving the money. Isn't it better to thank yourself later for your actions rather than regretting them? I think so.

 

[tzimize]

No way. Tobacco is hard enough to stay away from one you get hooked, and I've heard that heroine is comparable in terms of addictiveness. If tobacco was as unhealthy as heroine, I'd have died years ago.

You're kidding right? Tobacco is like candy compared to heroine in terms of addictive properties.

The jury is still out on whether smoking is anything more than habitual addiction. I'd certainly argue that it isn't chemical like heroine.

I've actually read this too in a science magazine. While you dont get hooked as fast on nicotine as on heroine, the addictive properties of nicotine are HUGE.

There are two kinds of addiction, mental and physical. Afaik for example acid is not physically addictive (as in you dont go into withdrawal if you dont get it). Nicotine and heroine on the other hand, is.

I completely disagree. There is massive contention about the addictive properties of a cigarette at the minute.

There's a reason things such as hypnotherapy and substitute cigs are more effective at combating cig addiction than nicotine patches and gum.

The act of smoking a cigarette is more important to smoker than the nicotine hit they get from it. In mine and a lot of other peoples opinions, it's a habitual addiction. The act of smoking is the reward people are looking for. Not the rush of chemicals.

You can quite cigs cold turkey and have nothing more than psychological withdrawals such as irritability (in very extreme cases). If you try to quite heroine cold turkey. There's a slight chance of death because of the chemical dependance you've built up.

They are not comparable addictions, and any scientist who would tell you otherwise is merely sensationalising.

I'll trust my non-sensational science magazine until you dig up some sources. That said, this is really not something I care a lot about, and I'm just retelling what I've read. So, feel free to feel you're correct, have a nice weekend

If said science magazine is telling you cigarette addiction is on the same level as heroine addiction, then yes. They're sensationalising.

You don't die from cutting cigarettes out of your life, people do die from going cold turkey on heroine.

They're not the same thing and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

And I'm not going to go trudging through summon to find some ancient journal entries I read about this. But I will do a 2 minute google search with some keywords and see where that gets me.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/news/20100719/330/study-says-smokers-are-not-addicted-to-nicotine.htm

http://www.articlesphere.com/Articl...garettes-And-Nicotine-Are-NOT-Addictive/11620

There, they'll do to match this phantom science magazine.

Meh, just because I like to argue

http://www1.umn.edu/perio/tobacco/nicaddct.html

http://ask.yahoo.com/20070327.html (I know the yahoo seems not very serious but it references some serious organizations).

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/29/magazine/nicotine-harder-to-kickthan-heroin.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Clarification: If I have given the impression that I think a nicotine addiction will affect your life as much as a heroin addiction, that was not what I meant. Of course a heroic addict is more of a wreck than a nicotine addict. Also withdrawals of heroin have a much easier to spot impact than withdrawals of nicotine.

What I HAVE been saying is that the nicotine addiction itself is more or less as hard to kick as a heroin addiction. Not in the way of drama, but in the way of difficulty.

I am not speaking from experience of course, merely what I've read.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

no, no way in hell. I hate "drugs" in general, so nope

 

[Harbinger_]

There are three classifications of things I don't do:

Things that are harmful to me.

Things that are morally wrong.

Things that are illegal.

Heroin is highly harmful and it's illegal. If it were legal I still wouldn't do it.

 

[Right Hook]

I don't do heroin because it is heroin, the legality of it has nothing to do with that choice, if I want to do something that only effects myself and my body, I do it if I want to and don't care if it is illegal, the government has no rights telling me what I can and can't do to myself as long as it isn't hurting others.

 

[personion]

Even if every drug was legal, I would try none of them. I like having money, thank you very much, and I can't afford to feed an addiction.

 

[EclipseoftheDarkSun]

There are three classifications of things I don't do:

Things that are harmful to me.

Things that are morally wrong.

Things that are illegal.

Heroin is highly harmful and it's illegal. If it were legal I still wouldn't do it.

And the fact that horrible things are done to people by criminals in the process of production and distribution of heroin and other hard drugs, and the fact that you'd be supporting them by helping create the demand, makes it morally wrong.

 

[Harbinger_]

There are three classifications of things I don't do:

Things that are harmful to me.

Things that are morally wrong.

Things that are illegal.

Heroin is highly harmful and it's illegal. If it were legal I still wouldn't do it.

And the fact that horrible things are done to people by criminals in the process of production and distribution of heroin and other hard drugs, and the fact that you'd be supporting them by helping create the demand, makes it morally wrong.

Wouldn't know whats done to create hard drugs, I try to stay in my oblivious bubble as much as possible.

 

[Hashime]

There are three classifications of things I don't do:

Things that are harmful to me.

Things that are morally wrong.

Things that are illegal.

Heroin is highly harmful and it's illegal. If it were legal I still wouldn't do it.

And the fact that horrible things are done to people by criminals in the process of production and distribution of heroin and other hard drugs, and the fact that you'd be supporting them by helping create the demand, makes it morally wrong.

Wouldn't know whats done to create hard drugs, I try to stay in my oblivious bubble as much as possible.

If you ever want to do some light reading on crime there is a great ethnography by Carolyn Nordstrom called "Global Outlaws: Crime, Money, and Power in the Contemporary World". I read it for an elective course, it wad very eye opening.

 

[EclipseoftheDarkSun]

Wilful ignorance is no excuse

 

[Nalbis]

Hell to the no I wouldn't touch it. I've dabbled a fair bit but like some people have already said, the line is drawn at meth, crack and heroin.

On the other hand if E or MDMA were made legal and reasonably priced I'd drop that shit every day!