Poll: Would you wipe out a culture?
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The chaotic good in me says screw that! I'd take out the Extremists and allow the culture to continue to develop, what would stop me from saving the culture as a whole while killing those extremists? Consequences for my actions? I'll deal with them after but I won't kill off an entire culture that according to the OP has had effects on the whole world that will be damaged due to committing genocide.Lawyer105 said:
EDIT: Also in the long run committing genocide would only give me worse PR so my choice is better really.
How many Nazi germans do you know? That havent been arrested/prosecuted for war crimes?Dana22 said:
Nazi's are a group that created (Or rather, refined) a specific culture, that still exist to this day.gellert1984 said:
So, yah. Even a World War couldn't get rid of a culture.
Why would everything they´ve created be destroyed? Just kill them and take their loot. That's not so difficult, now is it?
I think it works the other way as well though. You don't need religion to be a good person, but religion isn't what makes a bad person either, otherwise every religious person would be "evil". Culture and conditioning are what makes us the way we are, and while it is true that religion helped shape culture, many other factors did also, which is why countries are politically and socially shaped so differently. Even if this were not the case, removing religion now would change very little - the societies and mentalities already exist. Religion is a scapegoat for conservative values and backwards thinkingWhateveralot said:
Are you guys fucking serious?! Jesus.
No, nononononononononononononononononono! It's never right. Who the fuck are any of us (by us, I mean humans) to condemn one million (or so) innocents to death, for any reason?
But seriously, OP. Your statistics are absolutely silly. Ten million? Dude, at least try to make this realistic. Oh, and nice job singling out religion on this. Very classy. /sarcasm
What I would do if power is build an elite team of soldiers and take out the extremist until their numbers are much too small to be able to kill a significant number of my people. 'Tis logical.
Edit: Oh, and you know who else decided to eliminate an entire culture? The fucking Nazis!
No, nononononononononononononononononono! It's never right. Who the fuck are any of us (by us, I mean humans) to condemn one million (or so) innocents to death, for any reason?
But seriously, OP. Your statistics are absolutely silly. Ten million? Dude, at least try to make this realistic. Oh, and nice job singling out religion on this. Very classy. /sarcasm
What I would do if power is build an elite team of soldiers and take out the extremist until their numbers are much too small to be able to kill a significant number of my people. 'Tis logical.
Edit: Oh, and you know who else decided to eliminate an entire culture? The fucking Nazis!
Would I wipe out a culture? Absolutely. I'd do it with a stroke of the pen. The culture I would remove is the pro War on Drugs culture. I would do it by surrendering to the drugs. I would declare defeat, and then it's over.
True, but like you said, it's about conditioning. Religion teaches people to base opinions on faith, not fact. Also, a lot of religions are degressive, corrosive things that want science to stop existing, doesn't want to vaccinate our children against diseases and in extreme cases even kill homosexuals. By allowing even the slightest glimp of that, you condition these ways of living. Not saying all religion is horrible, I have a great deal of respect for people that devote their lives to something like that, but it's not a very good thing to devote yourself to.Verlander said:
In my personal perfect world, religion only excists in a single persons' mind and does not carry over to other people. So no churches, no bible schools. People need to choose for their own, create their own vision. I do believe there could be religious councellors to go to in times of need. Representatives of a belief. But they should be schooled psychologists, not just people that believe in God. This way, people always have the freedom to think what they want, but can talk about what they believe in a constructive manner, not to indoctrinate little children to believe in a God.
Would you not become exactly the same as the extremists you were trying to destroy?
Either way, though, people are dead... and if the future of an entire culture was mindless violence, they could probably do with a slight splash of nuclear fire.
Either way, though, people are dead... and if the future of an entire culture was mindless violence, they could probably do with a slight splash of nuclear fire.
Yes. In a case like this, you've gotta look at it from a mechanical, logical perspective. So, yes for the same reason why we nuked Japan in WWII.
This "culture" seems to be a lot like the "TRUE metal fans" community. I'd drop the fucking bomb in a heartbeat.
Considering I support eugenics, genocide, the abolishment of all organised religion and solving world hunger by airlifting fat people into starving countries and dropping leaflets on cannibalism (which would then give the starving people food poisoning and potentially wipe them out, further reducing the population count and speeding up the development of my glorious new world order), my answer should be obvious.
If religion cannot make you a good person, EVER, than religion cannot make you a bad person, ever. In fact, it can't make anyone anything.Whateveralot said:
Its almost like... people get out of religion what the put into it! And evil people do evil things, regardless of belief!
No... your right. Religion has killed everyone, ever.
On a side note, religion is an idea. Can't kill religion without killing the people.
Only if it was a problem (i.e. believe the world must be destroyed, and they have the means to do it), and only if I was able to keep it alive in some way, so that we'd have a clear record of it, and it's teachings.
I agree about anti indoctrination. I was brought up in England (mostly) in a Catholic church and school. I was never told or lead to believe that faith was superior to science and fact. I was never taught that homosexuality was wrong, or that people who were different should be treated differently. In fact, had the place been in America or Australia, it would have probably been shut down on suspicion that it was a hippy-socialist-communist place or something XDWhateveralot said:
What I'm trying to say is that the religion itself is read, and understood in many different ways. That's why all of the different sects in the Abrahamic religions disagree so violently with each other, despite having essentially the same goal and general belief. I think that religion should be age restricted, like voting and other adult things, and that moral values should be taught in multi faith schools (of which they are all legally made to be), where everyone is taught the same things. I am a globalist, and believe that should be a standard around the world. I think that is fair. I think that there should be equality around the world, and that it's the moral responsibility of people to look after others and to not judge people the way they do, rather like "Christian" teaching tells (read:not any Christian denomination that actually exists, the one that Jesus preached, that everyone chooses to ignore). I think that people would be far better off in this situation, ethically at least. Then, however, you are leaning towards communism, and as all good propaganda tells us, the closer to communism, the more evil it truly is.
I'm not religious and I'm not a communist by the way, but I do think we need to take the best concepts from every ideology and try and make a healthy balance between them.