Resistance is technically Korean war era. But I guess it would fall into the over done alien category though I will give it a pass because it feels like almost all the FPS over the past four years or so have been WWII based Nazi bashing sims.
Poll: WW2 games. Enough is enough for the time being.
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WW2 is a overdone concept. The Iraq War games fail. Games will either go back in history but a few hundred years or go into the future.
There need to be other fronts explored in WW2 games. Exactly how many games focused on the Australian (and/or New Zealander) side of things? The Finnish side? The Polish side? Hell, even the German, Japanese or Italian side for a change. All we've ever had in the average WW2 game is the British, the Russian and the American sides. If developers looked at the war from other perspectives, then the WW2 genre could be interesting again.
I would disagree. I would have more WWII games come out, but not about the mighty America. Seriously how many WWII games give credit to countries like Canada, or a WWII game where you can play a German campaign, which would be a great change in perspective.
the excessive use of WW2 in games is cos' alot of games are designed it the USA so most of the time america know that WW2 is the only war they have ever been good at,they usually Have the 8 marines taking on 40000 japanese and the marines somehow kick ass (incase you you thought america couldnt have bigger egos bout themself) :?
I was playing CoD5 and after shooting my fifty-ninth wild-eyed, "Banzai" screaming, bandanna wearing bayonnet-charging Japanese soldier, I thought "this is enough". It's bordering on the tasteless.
It's funny how the Japanese and Germans have been forced to move on yet in many places (like here in Britain) we still drone on about the war. Let it go.
It's funny how the Japanese and Germans have been forced to move on yet in many places (like here in Britain) we still drone on about the war. Let it go.
I think WWII should take a break UNLESS we explore a new perspective.
While WWII games are slowly becoming less common, a rather large amount still come out every year whether you realize it or not. Now, I do like the setting of WWII, but it is getting old. Give WWII a rest for a few years, or take the Hollywood route.
In case you haven't noticed, two WWII movies came out recently that cover new perspectives: Valkyrie and Defiance, both of which are true stories. Valkyrie covers the real July 20th plot to assassinate Hitler, effectively showing a non-Nazi German perspective. Meanwhile, Defiance is from the perspective of Polish Jews trying to survive in the wilderness of Nazi-occupied Poland. If games could take this route and give us more games set in WWII focusing on someone besides the Americans, British, or Russians (And even then, Russia is a rarity) then I'd be all for seeing some. If you are going to make us storm fucking Normandy for the billionth time, then no thanks, find something original to do you fucking bandwagon chasers.
Now, as I've said a billion times before: I don't think that switching everything to fictional modern wars and future wars are the answer when it comes to settings for war games. I'd like to see games based on the many post-WWII conflicts. Sure, none are really the size and scope of WWII, but they shouldn't be ignored because they are all interesting, original settings for games. Korea, Vietnam (Yeah, yeah, there was that influx of Vietnam games a few years back, but it was over before anyone made a good one) South African Border War, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the Gulf War (I think that would make a pretty cool moderately high budget tank-based war game) the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Sierra Leone Civil War, and so on. A lot of people say "those wars won't sell," but the fact is that no one has even TRIED. If you look around, you'll see how so many gamers cry for new, more original settings in games. Hell, we are doing it right now. How will anyone know that gamers don't want to try out these wars in a game if no one attempts to make games based on said wars? And besides, some great, rather successful movies were based off of events that many people didn't really know much, if anything, about: Blood Diamond, The Last King of Scotland, Hotel Rwanda, Black Hawk Down, etc.
Plus, these games have an added benefit: They could be educational.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN0qRKjfX3s
That video is a good example of what I'm talking about. Games based on a war that most people have never heard of could get a small portion of the audience interested in finding out more. They play a game based on, say, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and decide to start looking up information to learn more about it. You've accomplished two things: Produced a solid game in an original setting, and got gamers interested in a historical topic they might not have known about. You taught them a quick history lesson in a fun way, which really is one of the perks of setting a game during a real time period, following real events.
So, I'd really like seeing games set during other real wars, besides just WWII, and I bet that a decent amount of gamers wouldn't mind the original setting either.
I'll stop now that I've potentially derailed the topic with my ramblings.
While WWII games are slowly becoming less common, a rather large amount still come out every year whether you realize it or not. Now, I do like the setting of WWII, but it is getting old. Give WWII a rest for a few years, or take the Hollywood route.
In case you haven't noticed, two WWII movies came out recently that cover new perspectives: Valkyrie and Defiance, both of which are true stories. Valkyrie covers the real July 20th plot to assassinate Hitler, effectively showing a non-Nazi German perspective. Meanwhile, Defiance is from the perspective of Polish Jews trying to survive in the wilderness of Nazi-occupied Poland. If games could take this route and give us more games set in WWII focusing on someone besides the Americans, British, or Russians (And even then, Russia is a rarity) then I'd be all for seeing some. If you are going to make us storm fucking Normandy for the billionth time, then no thanks, find something original to do you fucking bandwagon chasers.
Now, as I've said a billion times before: I don't think that switching everything to fictional modern wars and future wars are the answer when it comes to settings for war games. I'd like to see games based on the many post-WWII conflicts. Sure, none are really the size and scope of WWII, but they shouldn't be ignored because they are all interesting, original settings for games. Korea, Vietnam (Yeah, yeah, there was that influx of Vietnam games a few years back, but it was over before anyone made a good one) South African Border War, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the Gulf War (I think that would make a pretty cool moderately high budget tank-based war game) the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Sierra Leone Civil War, and so on. A lot of people say "those wars won't sell," but the fact is that no one has even TRIED. If you look around, you'll see how so many gamers cry for new, more original settings in games. Hell, we are doing it right now. How will anyone know that gamers don't want to try out these wars in a game if no one attempts to make games based on said wars? And besides, some great, rather successful movies were based off of events that many people didn't really know much, if anything, about: Blood Diamond, The Last King of Scotland, Hotel Rwanda, Black Hawk Down, etc.
Plus, these games have an added benefit: They could be educational.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN0qRKjfX3s
That video is a good example of what I'm talking about. Games based on a war that most people have never heard of could get a small portion of the audience interested in finding out more. They play a game based on, say, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and decide to start looking up information to learn more about it. You've accomplished two things: Produced a solid game in an original setting, and got gamers interested in a historical topic they might not have known about. You taught them a quick history lesson in a fun way, which really is one of the perks of setting a game during a real time period, following real events.
So, I'd really like seeing games set during other real wars, besides just WWII, and I bet that a decent amount of gamers wouldn't mind the original setting either.
I'll stop now that I've potentially derailed the topic with my ramblings.
i'd like a Call Of Duty set in Vietnam, where the final scene of the game is a big set piece where you have to rush to the helicopter that lifts you off the roof of the U.S. embassy in Hanoi in '75 as the VC approach. That'd be cool.Optimus Prime said:
The world war two game has had it's day. It was OK , but now there have been too many games on a subject that many people think should be forgotten. Besides, there's no part of the second world war that hasn't been done to death anyway
Actually, there are a lot of potential settings in WWII that are under explored...It is just that most developers go for D-Day and the following battles from the American perspective, as opposed to trying other, less overused settings in the war. See my previous post for examples.the jellyman said:
Too much of WII games look on the Eastern/American view of the war. There's plenty of battles that could be seen and more entertaining to do. You could play as Finland in the Winter War, fighting and pushing back the Soviet offensive. Or maybe you could play as Poland, trying desperately to repel the German War machine with what little military forces and resources you have. Perhaps it wouldn't be such a bad idea to play on the German side before sometime before D-Day. I personally would like to see a small scenario played out in a lesser known part of the war: The Platianian War. Argentina vs. Brazil. Even have a game revolving around a fiction based 4th Balkan War would be an interesting twist.