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IamLEAM1983

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I just don't get the OP's arguments, much less Microsoft's pre-rollback.

"Hey, the online features are neat because you can download your purchased titles on a friend's Xbone!"

Um - games tend to run upwards of six gigs, nowadays. That's not the kind of traffic I'd stick on any connection being handled by a friend of mine without said friend's explicit permission. That's a heck of a lot of bandwidth for a single download. Considering, I don't see that as a courtesy so much as a disservice. What about the Impulse Download kids? You're fine with Little Timmy blowing your bandwidth cap because he's friends with Little Jimmy, who happens to have Call of Modern Battlefield: Halo Duty 6?

"Who rents games these days?"

Seriously? I do. I very much do. I have close to zero money to spend on console games at the moment and I like to stay abreast of what's going on. Rentals and weekend binges are the only way I've managed to have any sort of appreciation for the more standard and triple-A side of the industry, as of the last two years.

"BRING BACK TEH DEE ARR EMMS, I WANTS MAH FEATURES!"

Your "features" are in no way tied to Microsoft's rights policy. Their initial take on data rights management was nothing but a misguided attempt to try and nip the chipping and game-copying scene in the bud - at the expense of their entire consumer base.

The trick is to look past the rosy promises landed by PR, OP. Of course, Jennifer Larson-Green has been ostensibly hired to tell you that Feature X they've come up with is a good thing, and that you have to agree. If you don't, her job is to rectify that. Stop reading Microsoft-mandated press releases, stop listening to the pundits caterwauling about needy gamers ruining everyone's fun, and broaden your horizons.
 

TomWiley

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Robert Marrs said:
TomWiley said:
SilkySkyKitten said:
UnnDunn said:
Saika Renegade said:
The difference is that Valve has made it quite explicitly clear that whenever their company comes to an end, their games will live past them and their fans will be able to enjoy what they have purchased even if Valve is not there to be able to support them.
Actually, no they haven't. They have made no such promise, and they wouldn't even be in a position to make such a promise for games they don't publish.
Actually, yes they have. Gabe Newell himself has stated on several occasions that, if Steam were to be discontinued or Valve were to go under, updates would be released and a contingency plan would be put into place so that everyone would still be able to access their games on Steam or at least download everything with the requirement for Steam removed.

So yeah, Valve has a backup plan. Whereas Microsoft haven't stated if they do or not, and considering their track record and extreme reliance on a "The cloud is the future and if you don't believe so, you're backwards and should just stick with your outdated crap!" train of thought, it's safe to assume they don't.
Can you refer me to the article or video where Gabe promises that? It doesn't make sense to me that Valve would promise something like seeing as the way things work now, if you get blocked from Steam, you pretty much lose all your games.

As to the promise to path their SAAS not to need connectively should their servers go down, I'm pretty sure Microsoft have made similar promises.
I have heard the same thing many times but attempts to find a quote or even mention of him saying it have failed. In all honesty though i trust valve to an extent (at least more than most corporation) so it seems like they would at least try to do something like this.
Well, I really don't nor will I ever. All companies want to do only one thing: make money, and the only thing that separates them is how good they handle their PR. Valve is no exception, and I'm not going to fool myself into thinking they got my back, especially when I consider how their EULA is way more anti-consumer than that of EA (which is never a good sign).

It's the same with all other companies. I'm not going to forget that Sony was a public supporter of SOPA and used to sue their own users for trying to install Linux on PS3 just because, right now, they seem like the lesser of two evils.