Poll: Your opinions on war.

[samsprinkle]

I think that war and violence is a code planted in DNA to make sure man doesn't ever multiply too much and to ensure he wipes himself out before he gets advanced enough to become god-like...

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Sure it's an utopia, but the less powerful is the goverment the less likely it is to wage wars (in example because it has no money for wars). I'm not a revolutionary, I just want change towards that direction and maybe some day we'll be able to reach peaceful anarchy.

To achieve peaceful anarchy we would have to seriously change people. That or just have excessive abundance and no need for human labor.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

I agree with Carl von Clausewitz. If you want peace, prepare for war.

 

[bad rider]

Actually I didn't say a while back but it does seem the choices are simplistic. In different situations the logic of the answer changes.

 

[Easykill]

Kukul has already said anything meaningful I would have to say, so kudos to him. We're not ready for Anarchy yet, and we may never be, but that's no reason not to strive in that direction. All of the events you guys talk about as justified war are caused by the other countries' government abusing their power, if they didn't have the power it wouldn't matter. I have greater faith in people than I do for politicians, so I'd rather place the power where it belongs.

 

[Jharry5]

"Si vis pacem para bellum"
"If you want peace, prepare for war".

Most people (I'd like to think) would like there to be universal peace, but with human nature being what it is, there will always be jealousy, fear and hate. To have a truly lasting peace, we have to change.

 

[Mizaki]

All views on war that aren't "shit happens" oriented are unrealistic. It's that simple. The theory of peace is much different than the practice. War is not just giant ones made of tanks and guns. There are tiny wars, such as gang wars and even verbal wars, too. It is in the human mind to form tribes and hate other ones, it always happens, always will, unless evolution reprograms humans' brains. If that doesn't happen, humans will remain the same. It is not good, it is not bad, it is real.

So, basically, the answer to this and many MANY other questions is simple: Empathy is not a form of logic, and logic is not a form of realism.

 

[Ago Iterum]

Nothing can exist without an opposite. Peace can not exist without war, up cannot exist without down. Pepsi cannot exist without coke, and so on.

 

[mosinmatt]

Kukul has already said anything meaningful I would have to say, so kudos to him. We're not ready for Anarchy yet, and we may never be, but that's no reason not to strive in that direction. All of the events you guys talk about as justified war are caused by the other countries' government abusing their power, if they didn't have the power it wouldn't matter. I have greater faith in people than I do for politicians, so I'd rather place the power where it belongs.

*snicker*
haha
Greater trust in people, than in politicians. News flash Mr. Red II. Politicians ARE people.
What do you think will happen when yu give people power? They will abuse it.
Fucking communism DOESNT WORK

 

[Easykill]

Kukul has already said anything meaningful I would have to say, so kudos to him. We're not ready for Anarchy yet, and we may never be, but that's no reason not to strive in that direction. All of the events you guys talk about as justified war are caused by the other countries' government abusing their power, if they didn't have the power it wouldn't matter. I have greater faith in people than I do for politicians, so I'd rather place the power where it belongs.

*snicker*
haha
Greater trust in people, than in politicians. News flash Mr. Red II. Politicians ARE people.
What do you think will happen when yu give people power? They will abuse it.
Fucking communism DOESNT WORK

Power, when it's available, will always end up in the hands of people who seek it. the people who end up in power are more often "worse" people than the general populace. Even if that wasn't true, it just makes more sense to me to have everyone rule themselves. You face the same risk of psychos, just spread out a bit. And, we get to enjoy freedom.

Your opinion of people seems to be rather terrible. We aren't that bad, I promise. There is a small merit in the idea that power corrupts, but I'd rather see it as the power granting them freedom to be the assholes they really are. Maybe personal experience has you thinking everyone is an asshole underneath? In any case, that only surfaces with a large amount of power, so it really seems like you're agreeing with me now.

I'm not a communist. I don't know a whole lot about it, or economics in general, but I dislike regulations of any kind, that includes the market. I am an Anarchist though.

 

[mosinmatt]

Kukul has already said anything meaningful I would have to say, so kudos to him. We're not ready for Anarchy yet, and we may never be, but that's no reason not to strive in that direction. All of the events you guys talk about as justified war are caused by the other countries' government abusing their power, if they didn't have the power it wouldn't matter. I have greater faith in people than I do for politicians, so I'd rather place the power where it belongs.

*snicker*
haha
Greater trust in people, than in politicians. News flash Mr. Red II. Politicians ARE people.
What do you think will happen when yu give people power? They will abuse it.
Fucking communism DOESNT WORK

Power, when it's available, will always end up in the hands of people who seek it. the people who end up in power are more often "worse" people than the general populace. Even if that wasn't true, it just makes more sense to me to have everyone rule themselves. You face the same risk of psychos, just spread out a bit. And, we get to enjoy freedom.

Your opinion of people seems to be rather terrible. We aren't that bad, I promise. There is a small merit in the idea that power corrupts, but I'd rather see it as the power granting them freedom to be the assholes they really are. Maybe personal experience has you thinking everyone is an asshole underneath? In any case, that only surfaces with a large amount of power, so it really seems like you're agreeing with me now.

I'm not a communist. I don't know a whole lot about it, or economics in general, but I dislike regulations of any kind, that includes the market. I am an Anarchist though.

Your in High School or College aren't you?
Anarchy DOESNT WORK! honestly, you little twits are the worst. Why not go start a little hole somewhere, and have no laws at all. See how long that lasts.

 

[MercurySteam]

"There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under heaven:...
...a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace."

"A season for all things.
A time to live and a time to die.
A time to build, AND A TIME TO DESTROY!!!" - Andrew Ryan


Andrew Ryan needs to try to be more original. On the other hand, a city at the bottom of the sea, how more original can you get?

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Kukul has already said anything meaningful I would have to say, so kudos to him. We're not ready for Anarchy yet, and we may never be, but that's no reason not to strive in that direction. All of the events you guys talk about as justified war are caused by the other countries' government abusing their power, if they didn't have the power it wouldn't matter. I have greater faith in people than I do for politicians, so I'd rather place the power where it belongs.

*snicker*
haha
Greater trust in people, than in politicians. News flash Mr. Red II. Politicians ARE people.
What do you think will happen when yu give people power? They will abuse it.
Fucking communism DOESNT WORK

Power, when it's available, will always end up in the hands of people who seek it. the people who end up in power are more often "worse" people than the general populace. Even if that wasn't true, it just makes more sense to me to have everyone rule themselves. You face the same risk of psychos, just spread out a bit. And, we get to enjoy freedom.

Your opinion of people seems to be rather terrible. We aren't that bad, I promise. There is a small merit in the idea that power corrupts, but I'd rather see it as the power granting them freedom to be the assholes they really are. Maybe personal experience has you thinking everyone is an asshole underneath? In any case, that only surfaces with a large amount of power, so it really seems like you're agreeing with me now.

I'm not a communist. I don't know a whole lot about it, or economics in general, but I dislike regulations of any kind, that includes the market. I am an Anarchist though.

Your in High School or College aren't you?
Anarchy DOESNT WORK! honestly, you little twits are the worst. Why not go start a little hole somewhere, and have no laws at all. See how long that lasts.

Anarchy only lasts as long as it takes for someone like me to get a gun and Lord it over them.

 

[mosinmatt]

Anarchy only lasts as long as it takes for someone like me to get a gun and Lord it over them.

Too bad I have a HUGE head start on you. Plus other equipment

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Anarchy only lasts as long as it takes for someone like me to get a gun and Lord it over them.

Too bad I have a HUGE head start on you. Plus other equipment

Possible but I have been planning to kill anarchists as long as I have been planning to kill zombies and supporting my new Alien Overlords in rounding up non-conformist humans who refuse to bow down to their Authoritarian Might. I would say I have a fairly good sized arsenal I mean not backwoods militia huge but bigger then most Americans.

 

[Easykill]

Your in High School or College aren't you?
Anarchy DOESNT WORK! honestly, you little twits are the worst. Why not go start a little hole somewhere, and have no laws at all. See how long that lasts.

Yeah, I'm in High School. So far, your not giving off a very mature vibe yourself though.

I don't think you really get what Anarchy is, outside of public legend. You might, but I doubt it. Anarchy has never been put into practice, and for good reason. It is an ideal, a utopia. It cannot "function" as we are now. I personally don't think it ever will. Like Proudhon, who FOUNDED the concept of Anarchy, I see it more as a way to set the scale. The optimum that might never be reached, but which we should reach for. You know the Anarchy symbol? It's derived from the phrase "Anarchy is order". Proudhon stood against revolution.

 

[mosinmatt]

Anarchy only lasts as long as it takes for someone like me to get a gun and Lord it over them.

Too bad I have a HUGE head start on you. Plus other equipment

Possible but I have been planning to kill anarchists as long as I have been planning to kill zombies and supporting my new Alien Overlords in rounding up non-conformist humans who refuse to bow down to their Authoritarian Might. I would say I have a fairly good sized arsenal I mean not backwoods militia huge but bigger then most Americans.

AH, so what you got stashed away?
I consider mine fairly small. and it doesnt have much ammo (my hours are cut at work, so i cant afford it)
I also plan on shooting any anarchists that try to burn down my city. Screw what happened in Greece. That shit happens here, they are catching a boolet from me.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

It doesn't really matter what anyone thinks of war. It'll always be there. As long as there are 2 people on Earth, someone is gonna want someone else dead.

As long as there is any life, there will be war, in one way or another.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Anarchy only lasts as long as it takes for someone like me to get a gun and Lord it over them.

Too bad I have a HUGE head start on you. Plus other equipment

Possible but I have been planning to kill anarchists as long as I have been planning to kill zombies and supporting my new Alien Overlords in rounding up non-conformist humans who refuse to bow down to their Authoritarian Might. I would say I have a fairly good sized arsenal I mean not backwoods militia huge but bigger then most Americans.

AH, so what you got stashed away?
I consider mine fairly small. and it doesnt have much ammo (my hours are cut at work, so i cant afford it)
I also plan on shooting any anarchists that try to burn down my city. Screw what happened in Greece. That shit happens here, they are catching a boolet from me.

Mossberg 500 with home defense barrel, Mosin-Nagant 91/30, Mosin-Nagant 44, Yugoslavian SKS and a Lee-Enfield #4 Mk 1.