Pet since even after the stranger has drowned I know how to resuscitate them due to first-aid training or someone calls an ambulance. Drowned is not dead.
Poll: Your Pet is Drowning, and so is a Stranger.
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Okay guys imagine you are drowning and you scream for help, and the only one who is nearby is a stranger, you feel relief as you see the person jumps in the water, but only to be replaced by anger and a feeling of the world being unfair, when the person jumps in the water only to save his cat, without a second glance at you...
Don't say that "well I am not a good swimmer, so I probably couldn't save the human" This isn't a question about you being able to, but if you were able, what you would do.
It is a Human being, people, and you just let that person die. I don't care if you say that he/she "could" be a total douche-bag, fact is you don't know since this is a stranger!
Frankly I didn't think this was something that had to be debated on the escapist. I am extremely disappointed
Don't say that "well I am not a good swimmer, so I probably couldn't save the human" This isn't a question about you being able to, but if you were able, what you would do.
It is a Human being, people, and you just let that person die. I don't care if you say that he/she "could" be a total douche-bag, fact is you don't know since this is a stranger!
Frankly I didn't think this was something that had to be debated on the escapist. I am extremely disappointed
Trust me, I am. Though I didn't need your permission first, just so you know.Candidus said:
As am I. I thought the Escapist was one of the better internet communities out there, comprised of upstanding, decent people.Drejer43 said:
Hah. Well, at least the ratio of morally lacking individuals and decent humans isn't 2:1, like on MMO-Champion.
scream for help since I am not a strong enough swimmer for two people and would be dooming us both.
Agreed. Often when I find myself thinking "I don't want to live on this planet any more" it's because I don't want to share it with a platoon of moralizing prats who continually presume that their values must necessarily be shared by everyone, and that those who don't are ethically bankrupt. I'll let people decide for themselves what's most important to them, as I would expect the same courtesy to be extended to me. Maybe I'm just crazy that way.Drejer43 said:
What's this? A thread where if I answer wrongly in a hypothetical scenario I get judged by someone who was more than likely raised differently than me therefore said persons morals will likely be different from mine?
FUCK YEAH! Where the hell do I sign up for that bullshit!?
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FUCK YEAH! Where the hell do I sign up for that bullshit!?
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LifeCharacter said:
I guess that is the way it goes, and I can see that it is me who is on the high horse right now, I guess the shock of this thread is making me say stupid things. But it is just that even though I try to get in the mindset of the other side, it is just so fundamentally wrong to me, that I can't even understand it. So yes I probably am moralizing, sorry for being one of "those" people, but at this particular topic my eyes only see it in black and white.BloatedGuppy said:
You're being an uncommonly good sport, so please don't take this as me piling on. The key word here is "fundamentally". I've always had an issue with fundamentalism of ANY stripe. I understand it can be very difficult to disengage ourselves from our emotional reactions to things, and your values are your values, and I certainly don't disrespect them. I think it is very important, though, that we remember that our values are just that...OUR values. Not a blueprint for righteous behavior that others must follow lest they be damned. I'm sure we don't need to sit here and comb through history to find all the incidences where that kind of thinking lead to Bad Things happening.Drejer43 said:
**snorts at Terminator humor**Montezuma said:I assure you, I am not a robot. I am as real as any human being you've met. I simply hold my respect for human life higher than my respect for its value according to law.
Also, Have you seen this boy?
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... wait, is that...? **looks closer**
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Yes. Yes I have seen that boy. You can see him too. Just press the Red Button.
Of course I would, but I feel bitter and angry if I have to wait at a red light in traffic. My bitterness/anger isn't really relevant to anything or anyone other than me. If I'm angry because someone chooses to save their dog from drowning instead of me, it's because I value my life more than his dog's, not because he needs to value my life more than his dog's.Drejer43 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_lawRes Plus said:
Is this the part of the discussion where we argue back and forth using lazy analogues?