40.000 human soldiers, cuz that way they will less likely revolt, cuz i am from the same species
Poll: Your preferred form of Minion, Army or Legion
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Meet your death at the hands of a Necromancer. I shall kill you with my minions and add your soul to my collection
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Well you are correct that a constant struggle could occur, but that runs the possibility of helping me grow stronger. But I can see your point though, although I do remember that Terra and Riku were both able to harness the Darkness without losing their humanity or falling prey to it. However it did bring a bit of a struggle here and there and left them open to corruption more than ever. But being Evil and having that power would seem easier.Fagotto said:
In regards to the robots, it could still be turned on you. For example; your desire is to conquer the world, if there's a better chance of them succeeding without you then they can still carry out your desire or will without you.
Gotta be specific with an AI based off of a growing intelligence because they can learn loop holes and technicalities.
It's like wishing from a Djin (evil genie) It can turn on you in so many ways
Hmmm Idk though, I'm just so used to the whole, "If you think you can do better than I can at leading then come up and fight me and prepare to die a painful death for it." It's about power and constantly having to stay at your peak. It would build Morale over time and the constant struggle may quiet down after laying down the law or making examples out of my Shadowed minions.Fagotto said:
It won't leave me in a lull and keep me ready at all times though a bit paranoid here and there, but I kinda got that Idea from Lord Genome from Gurren Lagann, he was able to rest for hundreds of years after his conquest that his whole body went into a lull and he couldn't stay at his peak because of the lack of challenge for years on end. And when the challenge finally did come he couldn't win
An army of adorable genetically enhanced super kittens of course! With adamantium claws and skeletons and the ability to make anyone instantly love them.
Ninjas. Why? Because ninjas are awesome, plus if our enemies happen to be pirates it would be the battle of the century.
The creatures I would control would be things that my mind has created, and each creature is different.Cheesus333 said:
Also many of the creatures would be from videogames (many from the metroid series), including multiple versions of the bosses.
There would be certain ones I would create for one purpose, each specialized for that role. There would be ones that I would have as scouts: being small and agile for stealth, but would be equipped with a arsonal of weapons to defend itself, just in case it was found. I would have ones for stealth: almost invisible, and able to become intangible. I would have ones designed for defense, offense, ect.
Didn't take any offense anyway, so "forgiven and forgotten" ^^Sonicron said:Apologies. It was late, and I was wound a bit tight, so I guess I put some misdirected bile in my post without realizing it.Totenkopf said:That was not really meant as an attack on your taste, rather the other way round.
(The misunderstanding here is my fault though, worded it quite ambiguous, I even wrote it with split intentions)
See, the artwork of the Night Lords you posted above was one of the first pictures that made Chaos Space Marines look interesting to me.
Reading background info about them on the Lexicanum did a further step on the ladder of interest.
Since I'm relatively new to the whole lore, Chaos Space Marines were so far only "Space Marines with hornes and spikes, and in evil" to me. And to be honest, I found that simply extremely uninteresting and unimaginative.
And since those guys would have been / are a (welcome) change to that, I got cautious and raised a virtual eye brow to double-check
Regarding the Black Templars:
I've recently read their Codex, and since then they seem to me like they are made of pure epic. (Talking about devotional shrine...)
While it's true that every chapter is kind of a brotherhood of knights, I think (so far) that only Black Templars actually manage to give you this "knight / crusader feeling", that's from my point of view missing from the other chapters I know (mainly Blood Ravens [got introduced to the lore via Dawn of War 2], others only by looks).
So, they are, at least to me, pretty unique in this aspect.
I'm simply into their crusader aesthetics, close-combat focus and kick-ass attitude, the codex read like they are the elite of the elite, what is, already in itself, pretty sweet.
I could even say that I found the thing of the lore that suits me best.
Changing to a meta-level, that's simply a matter of perspective here.
To me they seem kick-ass and unique, while they seem to you "vanilla" and negligible.
PS. As I said before, I'm relatively new to 40k as a whole, so could you please explain to me why the Ultramarines always get this ridiculous amount of hate and ridicule? (I've seen it especially in threads concerning the new "Space Marine" game)
I don't really know much about them, but I can't really see what makes them the target for this spite. I can't grasp why they should be any less awesome than any regular Space Marines
Now, let's see...
The further you delve into the lore of W40k - and I recommend you do, it's awesome - the clearer it'll become to you that just as with the Space Marines, Chaos Marines can either be stereotypical or unique in certain aspects. This may extend to the way they look, the way the wage war, their heritage, demeanour and reasons for turning their back on law and order, etc.
The Night Lords are different from the standard mold because while they are certainly Chaos Marines, the overwhelming majority among them are renegades fighting an endless war of revenge, not gibbering madmen beholden to Chaos; indeed, most of them look down on or despise anyone (including those among their own legion) who offers up their soul in prayer to the Dark Gods, viewing such practice as a weakness and abominable corruption. The Night Lords' terror tactics and general conduct in warfare made them the Imperium's weapon of fear, and when the Imperium suddenly decided it didn't like them doing what they were designed to do it cast them aside, thus giving them reason to turn away and start tearing down the empire they helped create.
The ongoing Night Lords trilogy so far consists of the novels "Soul Hunter" and "Blood Reaver"; I highly recommend both of them. At this point I consider the author, Aaron Dembski-Bowden, to be on par with Dan Abnett. Other than that, there's an older Night Lords novel called "Lord of the Night"; it's a bit difficult to procure sometimes, but it's worth it.
As for the Black Templars:
Some of what I said was simply fanboy banter, not to worry. Yes, the Black Templars are pretty cool all around, and they're certainly not negligible, seeing how they're probably one of the strongest chapters in the galaxy (what with them not keeping to the teachings of the Codex Astartes and vastly exceeding the postulated limit of 1000 battle-brothers).
However, with the vast number of chapters, legions and renegade warbands I've read up on, all with quite diverse backstories and customs, I suppose exemplary chapters such as the Ultramarines and the Black Templars feel a bit unimaginative to me; that does not mean they don't make for fun stories. I enjoyed Graham McNeill's Ultramarines novels and the movie (yes, there's a CGI movie). The aforementioned Aaron Dembski-Bowden wrote a kick-ass Black Templars novel ("Helsreach"), and they even feature in an excellent comic book ("Damnation Crusade" / "Kreuzzug der Verdammten"). It's just that as Space Marines, they're a bit... standard, I guess.
This, by the way, is why the Ultramarines get so much fanboy hate. They're the definition of 'standard', honorable and valorous, proudly setting the example of what a Codex-abiding marine should be... and as always, people will mostly flock to things that diverge from the standard template in some way. I mean, what sounds more interesting to you: Valorous Roman legionnaires, or mead-drinking Space vikings? There's your answer why people keep bitching and moaning about the Ultramarines playing such a big role in recent media - because there are dozens of 'more interesting' chapters out there to fill their spot. What they fail to consider is that aside from tabletop gamers and lore nerds, the broad public doesn't know Space Marines, or much of anything about W40k, and movies and games need to start with the basics because they need to attract a bigger crowd than just the fanboys.
Finally, I'll go on record as say that I don't play the tabletop game. I've been introduced to the W40k universe when a friend suggested to me I should read Dan Abnett's "Eisenhorn" novels (a trilogy about an Imperial Inquisitor), and they were so incredibly awesome I couldn't resist jumping further down the rabbit hole. Now I have about 90 novels on my shelf, and a new one just came in the mail yesterday.
Black Library novels tend to be hit and miss, but most of them are at least entertaining, and there are some true gems in there, too. If you're interested and willing to dive into this ocean of nerdiness, PM me, and I'll give you a list of recommended reading, and of course answer any other questions you might have, mein Landsmann.
EDIT: How the hell did we get in this thread? Wasn't your reply to my post from some thread called "Preferred legions, minions, blablabla" ...? ^^°
Wow, seriously, how did we (bzw I) get in this thread...?
(Was most likely a mistake on my side caused by fatigue, or the response got sucked into the Warp and spat out in the other thread)
Anyway, thanks for clearing that up, I now understand the "Ultrasmurf"-case and got a better overall picture about the Chaos forces
And 90 novels of 40k alone? That's seriously impressive, good sir.
I think I've got only approximately 50 books in total...
Hm, I choose giant zombie robot octopus/wolf hybrids. The world is mine.
EDIT: Also, why is everything underlined?
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EDIT: Also, why is everything underlined?
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Humans then i can convince the dumb ones I'm deity and pay the smart one to take over a country for me... not America... not fond of the British... still like Canada... Ireland nah don't want to piss off the ones who make my booze... so it's settled Green Land comes with the volcano base plus no one will suspect Green Land!
Robots. Robots do whatever I tell them to. Unless I tell them to think for themselves. Then I am fucked.
I chose humans. Specifically a ninja. Not an army of ninjas but a single ninja who would serve me. The reason being the inverse law of ninjas which simply states: "One ninja is an unstoppable death machine but an army of ninjas is just cannon fodder." So a single loyal ninja of mine could destroy whole enemy compounds by himself, eventually leading up to total world domination. Also ninjas are cool.
A diverse group of miscreants, monsters, and ne'er-do-wells.
My evil organization is EEO Compliant.
My evil organization is EEO Compliant.