Poll: Your thoughts on Pro Wrestling?
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I used to like pro Wrestling a lot
When I was 10
I know its fake, but if I wanted to watch a fake fight I could watch an action movie or just play a video game
When I was 10
I know its fake, but if I wanted to watch a fake fight I could watch an action movie or just play a video game
Can any one of you say that I'm wrong about the whole "you wouldn't act like this if we were talking about video games thing"?
To restate:
If I came in here and said that video games were just fat nerds playing murder simulators, you would all pretty much lynch me. What makes it o.k. for people to just dismiss and entire genre based upon hackneyed media stereotyping and half remembered, sensationalist, news reports?
Because anyone that has ACTUALLY seen professional wrestling would call bullshit on you immediately. The same way that you call bullshit on nutjobs like Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly whenever they go on a tirade. How is this any different? Maybe the rest of you can answer my question, as opposed to Zeeky Santos, who only responded with passive aggressive contempt for homosexuals. BTW, Real classy Mozared, bringing nationality into it. What if I said that blackface shows and racist iconography were more popular in Norway because of Black Peter?
Not so fun with the shoe on the other foot is it?
To restate:
If I came in here and said that video games were just fat nerds playing murder simulators, you would all pretty much lynch me. What makes it o.k. for people to just dismiss and entire genre based upon hackneyed media stereotyping and half remembered, sensationalist, news reports?
Because anyone that has ACTUALLY seen professional wrestling would call bullshit on you immediately. The same way that you call bullshit on nutjobs like Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly whenever they go on a tirade. How is this any different? Maybe the rest of you can answer my question, as opposed to Zeeky Santos, who only responded with passive aggressive contempt for homosexuals. BTW, Real classy Mozared, bringing nationality into it. What if I said that blackface shows and racist iconography were more popular in Norway because of Black Peter?
Not so fun with the shoe on the other foot is it?
Mozared said:
You can keep going, but it isn't going to change a thing. It is too small of a genre of entertainment for most people to have a true understanding of the nature of the profession and what it entails. It would be wise of you to try and ignore it. I wish we had a mod that was a wrestling fan in this thread, however.SadakoMoose said:
When you choose the job, you choose the life. If you're a worker you understand what I'm talking about. Wrestling will never be completely understood or accepted, and it shoudln't be, because if it was the business would be even less protected than it already is. Just let them have their opinion, they are entitled to it, and spend time focusing on people who actually appreciate it, or are at least willing to try to.
How so?Xojins said:
Does the existence of the movie shame the book?
And what sort of real wrestling?
Freestyle, GrecoRoman, Submission?
I saw a fight with a few friends last weekend. Quite fun. However, I don't think I'd watch it on TV or anything, but it definetly was a night of entertainment and was a lot better then I thought.
Due to the fact they call it wrestling when it has almost no similarity to actual wrestling, in addition to it being nothing more than a glamor show; it's not about the athletics in so-called "professional" wrestling, it's about the drama and how everyone looks. If you were an actual wrestler and took it seriously you'd understand.SadakoMoose said:
Freestyle, Greco-Roman, Folkstyle, and Submission are all forms of actual wrestling (which is a grappling sport). All those flying kicks and hitting people with chairs is not wrestling in any form. Period.
Edit: Yes, the existence of the movie does shame the book if the book is good and the movie has absolutely nothing to do with it.
I definitely used to be a fan, but not anymore. Nostalgia does get to me somehow, but it really pains me to still see the performers work day in day out. I very much miss the Attitude Era of the WWE. Nowadays, it's just..
..garbage. The storyline is recycled, the characters are the same, the performers are undervalued by the corporates, but happily appreciated by the fans, the entire industry is slowly being taken over by the popularity of UFC and MMA prizefights, and Undertaker is going to go for his zillionth comeback. I was exaggerating on the last one though.
The wrestlers are awesome people, some of which are perhaps some of the nicest and fun celebrities you can meet in real life. Lots of the wrestlers give it their all and give back to the fans through the fan-tours, which can get brutal when you go to hot-spots to meet prize champions that are there to sign autographs. I must attest back to my previous point again, because wrestlers get worked like horses.
I can't find any work more demanding and dangerous than 'professional wrestling'. It is a dangerous sport because of the long-term effects of all that mat pounding (severe concussions, anyone?) and the short-term 'Anything Can Go Wrong In That Ring' factor. (That factor is actually made up, but anything CAN happen. Many wrestlers have suffered serious injury, or death in the squared circle.)
Man, I really miss Eddie Guerrero and Chris Beniot. Stress really got to the best of them, and they just..
Hmm, the saddest day of wrestling history had been announced when I heard the news. I cried.
..garbage. The storyline is recycled, the characters are the same, the performers are undervalued by the corporates, but happily appreciated by the fans, the entire industry is slowly being taken over by the popularity of UFC and MMA prizefights, and Undertaker is going to go for his zillionth comeback. I was exaggerating on the last one though.
The wrestlers are awesome people, some of which are perhaps some of the nicest and fun celebrities you can meet in real life. Lots of the wrestlers give it their all and give back to the fans through the fan-tours, which can get brutal when you go to hot-spots to meet prize champions that are there to sign autographs. I must attest back to my previous point again, because wrestlers get worked like horses.
I can't find any work more demanding and dangerous than 'professional wrestling'. It is a dangerous sport because of the long-term effects of all that mat pounding (severe concussions, anyone?) and the short-term 'Anything Can Go Wrong In That Ring' factor. (That factor is actually made up, but anything CAN happen. Many wrestlers have suffered serious injury, or death in the squared circle.)
Man, I really miss Eddie Guerrero and Chris Beniot. Stress really got to the best of them, and they just..
Hmm, the saddest day of wrestling history had been announced when I heard the news. I cried.
Is a shared name REALLY enough to invoke such wrath?Xojins said:
I was not referring to movies based on books but to movies and books as a whole.
Does the existence of the moving picture industry shame the book industry?
No, they coexist and have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.
Besides, pro wrestling was invented in the 1920's, because amateur wrestling matches could no longer hold the attention of the viewing public.
I was just curious if you even read what I wrote before, and if so, why are you a sucker for punishment?SadakoMoose said:
Well, I like it and everyone who likes i know of knows it is fake, we sometimes mess around and do the less dangerous ones on each other. But we know theres a limit, I just consider it a man- soap opera, where sweaty men, with the occasional woman, beat each other until one doesn't move for alittle bit.
Psychotic compulsion to debate people...chronobreak said:
Like most escapist members...
You'll notice that many of the people I have debated on this thread are no longer posting in it...
Well if you're talking about movies and books as a whole it is completely irrelevant. Books don't claim to be movies, movies don't claim to be books, because they work in completely different ways. However, "professional" wrestling claims that it is wrestling, which it isn't. It's not even close. I was involved with actual wrestling for years, so it annoys me when people think that "professional" wrestling is actually wrestling.SadakoMoose said:
Next?
Pro wrestling has not pretended to be actual wrestling for the last two decades. Only a select minority of very dumb people get this confused with amateur wrestling. Amateur wrestling and Pro wrestling can exist quite happily...Xojins said:
Ask Kurt Angle.
(Or Scott and Rick Rechsteiner if you're more into the NCAA scene)
