Pop music: beginning to take a bad route?

[Xorghul]

Don't listen to pop music so no.

 

[Shoqiyqa]

They should all be destroyed.

"Covered" is what a mare was by a stallion, resulting in her being "in foal".

 

[JanatUrlich]

Sampling has been going on in all music genres for years and I see no problem with it.

I'm a massive fan of pop music, alternative or no. I don't see why it's got such a bad reputation, it's just music.

If you're enjoying it, who the fuck cares whether it's sampled or not written by the artist?

I'd much rather listen to some pop music than a pretentious metal/rock band.

 

[MusicalFreedom]

I'm annoyed by this rip-off sampling, no doubt.
But I'm far more annoyed that every song seems to revolve around sex.
I'm a young married guy, and enjoy sex as much as the next person, but it is, really, such a minor part of life. Aren't there other things to sing about? Friends? Waiting for the bus? Not liking work? Liking work? Going bowling?

If they are attempting to be edgy, they aren't. Music is so saturated in sex that it's actually abnormal to sing about anything else. And that's annoying.

but hasn't sex been in music since forever, or at least the 60s?

and the reason no-one writes songs about waiting for buses is because it's fucking shit

as a side-note, Led Zeppelin "ripped off" a bunch of songs - mostly blues and such. to say that "ripping music off" is a new trend is false. is it even ripping off? sampling? influence? who gives a shit.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

Never listen to popular music, so I never noticed how much they ripped off from older songs.

 

[L4hlborg]

Never listen to popular music, so I never noticed how much they ripped off from older songs.

Me neither. But I notice some ripping off in other genres too. For example in metal. Listen these songs for the first 10 secs or so:

Spoiler

Both of them are amazing songs, but the similarities in the beginning are interesting...

 

[tehweave]

Pop... "STARTING" to take a bad route? It's POP music. What do you expect? Originality? Creative thought? Good tracks? Pop music doesn't use any of those things!

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

Spoiler

Is it me or does this song use the same lyric structure as Lonely Island's 'Like a Boss'?

'Blahblahblahblah, HAI SEXI!/Like a Boss!'

Am I the only person who sees this?

 

[Baby Tea]

but hasn't sex been in music since forever, or at least the 60s?

and the reason no-one writes songs about waiting for buses is because it's fucking shit

Well so is singing about sex. That's shit. I hear it everywhere, and it's unoriginal, boring, and repetitive.
It's not edgy, it's not creative (Even when referring to riding one's 'disco stick'), and it's annoying.

At least the singing about waiting for a bus would be different.
At least singing about waiting for a bus wouldn't be one of thousands that plague the 'music scene'.
At least singing about waiting for a bus would be creative and unique.

I've heard sex sung about in so many different ways that the thought of one more half-dressed tart dancing around while a-melodically spewing poorly written lyrics, written by someone else, about coitus makes me want to jam pencils in my ears. Pseudo musical whores (Male and female alike) are a dime a dozen, and they are thrown at us in such quantities that it makes us hard to see the real talent that a few of these pop artist might actually possess.

But no. Get them half naked and center stage where people are more concerned with the gyrations of their hips rather then the message, if any, that they might be trying to put across to the listener.

Music stops being an art form when the music itself takes a back-seat to the image of the pretty mouth regurgitating the same tired lyrics. Call me cynical, but most modern music is nothing short of a farce.

 

[Faps]

Just as with every music genre there are good artists and bad ones. It just so happens that because of the target audience pop tends to have more bad ones that good.

 

[Shoqiyqa]

The other bad route is in the lyrics.

I'm pretty sure there are birds with as wide an array of meanings in their songs as we get in our "music" these days. It's all "be mine or I'll mess you up," "be mine or I'll mess myself up," "I'm hard," "get away from my man," "moan moan moan moan moan SHOUT moan moan moan moan moan SHOUT" and "I want empty, meaningless sex."

If ABBA, Meat Loaf, Santana, Iron Maiden and/or the Cure have already done it, don't.

At least C&W has a story to it.

Spoiler

 

[Sightless Wisdom]

Starting to take a bad route? They have been for years now. Why do you think I listen to Metal? Pop is pathetic.

 

[War Penguin]

Wait, someone actually named themselves "Florida"?
OT: I'm not a pop fan but I think if it's done well and doesn't obviously just rip it off then it's fine (at least for me).

 

[Denmarkian]

Never listen to popular music, so I never noticed how much they ripped off from older songs.

Me neither. But I notice some ripping off in other genres too. For example in metal. Listen these songs for the first 10 secs or so:
Megadeth - Sleepwalker
System of a Down - Lonely Day

Both of them are amazing songs, but the similarities in the beginning are interesting...

The guitar intros are called arpeggios, people have been doing them since before they were named "arpeggios" by the italians in the 17th century or so. It consists of playing a tonic, the third, fifth, seventh, fifth, and the third again. The guitarist is changing the tonic with each bar, going through a standard chord progression of Root, Sixth below root, second, fifth below Root.

The Megadeth intro is in one key, the System of a Down intro is in another key, I don't have perfect pitch, so I can't tell you what the root note is, but you can hear that they're different. You'll probably find a whole mess of guitar intros, or piano intros for that matter, that use arpeggios with that exact chord progression in just about every Major key.

 

[Jerious1154]

Mainstream pop hasn't been any good in the last 10 years. Indie pop is where it's at.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Spoiler

Is it me or does this song use the same lyric structure as Lonely Island's 'Like a Boss'?

'Blahblahblahblah, HAI SEXI!/Like a Boss!'

Am I the only person who sees this?

Couldn't say, I don't know the song. But thanks for making a point which backs up what I said.

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

Spoiler

Is it me or does this song use the same lyric structure as Lonely Island's 'Like a Boss'?

'Blahblahblahblah, HAI SEXI!/Like a Boss!'

Am I the only person who sees this?

Couldn't say, I don't know the song. But thanks for making a point which backs up what I said.

I'd look at it on Youtube - they're perhaps the most successful internet-based band.

And that was the point I was trying to make. That song, and pop music in general is just sampling everything now.

Oh, and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzQQuvIFC4&feature=PlayList&p=5096D9F5040A0F20&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4

I think this is what's wrong with pop music. And also what's wrong with my video imbedding abilities.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Spoiler

Is it me or does this song use the same lyric structure as Lonely Island's 'Like a Boss'?

'Blahblahblahblah, HAI SEXI!/Like a Boss!'

Am I the only person who sees this?

Couldn't say, I don't know the song. But thanks for making a point which backs up what I said.

I'd look at it on Youtube - they're perhaps the most successful internet-based band.

And that was the point I was trying to make. That song, and pop music in general is just sampling everything now.

Oh, and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzQQuvIFC4&feature=PlayList&p=5096D9F5040A0F20&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4

I think this is what's wrong with pop music. And also what's wrong with my video imbedding abilities.

Ah. Yeah but not all pop music is. And it wasn't always, which is why I made the thread to voice my opinion that it's a bad route for the genre. Even though I don't like it.

 

[S.H.A.R.P.]

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Beginning? What has it been doing for the past 10 years then? Pop music in my opinion has always been a rotting pile of vile undergarments. Nothing good has come of it, really.