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SmegInThePants

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The law. People think because they looked up a case or statute they know what the law is, then act on it, and if they are lucky, they'll have happened to be correct - but often they are unknowingly incorrect and end up in trouble. There are plenty of lawyers out there, use one. They aren't just for court cases, but for simple quick questions as well. A 5 minute conversation can save a lot of grief later. If there is any doubt, ask before ya act.

Logical fallacies. In the U.S., public education doesn't include much in the way of critical thinking, at least mine didn't. If you go on to college, you might get something that encourages such, but even then it depends on your major. Then again, public education varies wildly in the u.s., so perhaps i was just unlucky (thankfully I made up for it in college). Our politicians can get away w/such blatant insulting rhetoric because it works on far too many people who never learned to think critically (and were never encouraged to). Its not just the stupid people who fall for it, but otherwise smart people who never learned anything about logic, so they can't even see when something they are told is inconsistent w/itself. They were simply never given the tools to think for themselves, and they don't even know that they are missing such things, so they never go looking for them either. And if they happen to be a fundamentalist of *insert any mainstream religion here* - they're actively discouraged from seeking such tools even.

On the other end of things: I've been guilty of the history thing. I was taught a lot of incorrect things in high school history it turns out. Luckily people have corrected me here and there and w/some reading I've corrected some of my misconceptions. In college I took some history and that helped too (but it wasn't my major and I only took classes covering a few specific subjects). I seriously thought I was correct though, because it was what i was taught. hehe. And I know I'm still walking around w/some misconceptions I haven't found yet, I'm sure. Stupid high school.
 

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I've worked in photographic enhancement, and the number of times I've been presented with a shitty little thumbnail and requested to somehow turn it into a high quality, poster-sized image is beyond belief.

I'm sorry, this ain't CSI.
"Enhance that image! Yeah, we found the perp by finding his reflection on a spoon lying on the table 15 feet from the camera. His face was 4x4 pixels big, but we enhanced it and got a perfect high res pic of his face." -Almost every cop show with computers.

Also hacking. I'm no hacker, but I'm pretty sure you don't just press "Enter" and it does it all for you. Nor is it likely that you swat at a giant touch screen twice and break into the pentagon.

As for my area of expertise, I repair computers, and everyone always assumes I want to fix theirs for free at any hour of the day, any day of the week. This is false.
 

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Language.

Grammar Nazis irritate me to no end. (Looks like I'm not the first person to post this either. Yay!)

Anyway, Grammar Nazis don't know much about language, they just know a lot about a bunch of almost completely arbitrary rules. They are prescriptivists--people who tell others how they should use language--and I was trained to understand that language is a tool that has always changed to suit the needs of those who are using it, and will continue to do so as long as it's spoken by humans.

Example: "literally" has been used as a generic intensifier for over a hundred years, and even other intensifiers like "very," "so," "really" and so on mean "in truth" deep down. Just like "literally" does. So it literally isn't a problem that people use it this way. Also, "don't split infinitives" and "don't end a sentence with a preposition" were never, ever rules in the English language. They were completely, 100% made up.

And that "Eskimos have 19075 words for snow" thing is annoying as well. They only have one word for snow, but since the language is agglutinative (using lots of affixes), it can technically have infinite words for snow. Or for human. Or for sock. Or whatever.
 

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Saulkar said:
Yep. That sounds about right.

Once had a client ask me to make an animation, and he provided a basic storyboard. About halfway through I submitted a render of the progress. He said it was good and submitted another storyboard with many additional elements (including significant changes in the geometry of the scene) that had to interact with the existing elements, saying that he didn't send it at first in order to keep things simple.

The hardest challenge of my job sometimes is finding a polite way to explain to a person how they couldn't be more wrong.
 

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McMullen said:
Saulkar said:
Yep. That sounds about right.

Once had a client ask me to make an animation, and he provided a basic storyboard. About halfway through I submitted a render of the progress. He said it was good and submitted another storyboard with many additional elements (including significant changes in the geometry of the scene) that had to interact with the existing elements, saying that he didn't send it at first in order to keep things simple.

The hardest challenge of my job sometimes is finding a polite way to explain to a person how they couldn't be more wrong.
So you animated a whole scene and then he asks you to make drastic changes to the already existing environment and miscellaneous elements that have already been animated?!

I think he was getting the impression that everything is created procedurally, and layered like a drawing/traditional animation. >.<
 

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Saulkar said:
McMullen said:
Saulkar said:
Yep. That sounds about right.

Once had a client ask me to make an animation, and he provided a basic storyboard. About halfway through I submitted a render of the progress. He said it was good and submitted another storyboard with many additional elements (including significant changes in the geometry of the scene) that had to interact with the existing elements, saying that he didn't send it at first in order to keep things simple.

The hardest challenge of my job sometimes is finding a polite way to explain to a person how they couldn't be more wrong.
So you animated a whole scene and then he asks you to make drastic changes to the already existing environment and miscellaneous elements that have already been animated?!

I think he was getting the impression that everything is created procedurally, and layered like a drawing/traditional animation. >.<
Yeah, that's the impression I got too. Tried to contrast the reality of 3D animation with that in order to avoid dwelling on the "you're wrong" thing.

I think that's when I started explaining what I was doing in my email updates. Then one of my clients advised me: "Look, I don't mind, but your other clients don't care about how it works and don't want to care. They just want to pay you for something and magically have it be ready the next time they talk to you."

So I guess there's not much of a possibility for avoiding that sort of situation, aside from asking more tactful versions of "Are you SURE this storyboard doesn't leave anything out?"
 

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McMullen said:
"Are you SURE this storyboard doesn't leave anything out?"
I am getting the impression that I may have to use that very statement sometime in the foreseeable future.
 

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Failure to understand the scientific method, mostly when I hear some religious nut saying "evolution is only a theory" but there are other areas to. That just boils my piss.

Also, when people take 'good with computers' to mean 'magic wizard man that can fix any mechanical or electrical problem I ever have'. It's why I stopped telling people I am an electronics engineering student- I do not like people calling at 2 in the morning to fix their slow computer.
 

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Guffe said:
Well not sure I'm an expert on too many things but:

WE DO NOT RIDE POLAR BEARS OR MOOSE TO SCHOOL IN FINLAND!!!
[sub][sub]Now I got that of my chest[/sub][/sub]
I thought that was my country, Canada's, stereotype.
Yeah, I've understood it's over there as well, but we're in the same zone so our countries have a pretty similar seasonings. But I've got it a few times... always as intruiging when people ask me that -.-
 

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McMullen said:
Saulkar said:
Yep. That sounds about right.

Once had a client ask me to make an animation, and he provided a basic storyboard. About halfway through I submitted a render of the progress. He said it was good and submitted another storyboard with many additional elements (including significant changes in the geometry of the scene) that had to interact with the existing elements, saying that he didn't send it at first in order to keep things simple.

The hardest challenge of my job sometimes is finding a polite way to explain to a person how they couldn't be more wrong.
I'm taking a 3D modelling class after school and I get that too many times.We aren't bieng taught animation yet,due to the large amount of idiots in the class,who think 3d modelling is just mashing some keys and coming out with a fucking dragon.
We were tasked with making a vehicle of some sort.Nothing particular,just a vehicle.I made the full chassis of a Russian military truck with every single little detail I could fit in,fuel lines,electronics,etc...
THEN the teacher comes in the next day,hands us a set of instruction with a Very specific ugly,blocky car with a tiny poly limit to make.What was worse,she scolded me for not paying attention in class and listening to what we should make,and told me to delete it and re make it.
I want to quit so badly.
 

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As someone studying a science degree, it pisses me off when some people seem to think that science is all about making random guesses and any implausible hypothesis farted out in the space of five minutes can be a "scientific theory", or that it's "all bullshit". I've even encountered this attitude in people who have taken a science A-level, no less.

True, you can never be sure in science exactly what is right and what will eventually be disproved, but that "bullshit" can still be pretty damn useful when it helps get your car to work every morning, grow the crops you eat for lunch, power the entertainment you consume and save your life when you have a heart attack.
Mine is that the term "scientist" means anything. No it means jack shit. It is NOT a protected term and your argument of "Some scientists did a test" means nothing to me unless i have credentials and details on that test. Also ONE test?! People are TERRIBLE at drawing conclusions from data. One test by itself is fucking worthless. Imagine if we did ONE test on medicine before we used it. People would DIE all over the place. You need MANY tests. You THEN need to graph those tests based on how accurate, well performed and comprehensive they are on the Y axis and THEN graph them by which were better than the placebo or worse than the placebo on the X axis and average out the point to show a conclusion. The graphs look like this:


Or my favourite the blobbogram:



The X axis should read "Results of test" or words to that effect and have a middle line for the control to show how the tests deviate from the norm either negatively or positively. This what real science looks like people. On the blobbogram the middle is the placebo. The middle of the horizontal lines represents what that test showed (worse or better) and the length of the line indicates how far the real result could deviate based on the limitations of the test.

Unless data is correlated like this and involves EVERY test you can find that fits on that axis your conclusion will be flawed. People who take a single test (Im looking at YOU news article "X CAUSES CANCER") to try and show "Science" supports anything annoy me. Thats really shitty science.
 

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as an engineering student i baffles me how many people think we are some kind of technology McGuyver-wizards-doctor who can fix their [insert random problem here] with a bit of string and a pencil.

and just because i am a history buff does not means i have an intricate knowledge of every time period ever
 

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Buzz Killington said:
I'm something of a Shakespeare expert[footnote]He said, while buffing his tweed jacket's leather elbow patches.[/footnote], with a couple of degrees, even. What really will get me forehead-vein-bulgingly furious is people saying someone else (like the Earl of Oxford) wrote Shakespeare's plays. It's almost always the result of some bizarre snobbishness that says the son of a glovemaker wouldn't be able to write like that.

Oh, and then there are the directors and acting companies that think the spelling and punctuation in the First Folio [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Folio] form some kind of SUPER SECRET ACTING CODE(tm), when five minutes of studying the history of the printing of the book will show that that's complete and utter nonsense. (I auditioned for one of those companies once. It didn't go well.)
Does it bug you more than people who think Shakespeare's work is garbage? Just curious.
 

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Software Engineer here, and we're sick of people asking us to fix their computers. We can struggle enough fixing programs that we made ourselves, let alone programs made by other people. Also, we don't automatically know every language. There are languages that are similar (C++, C# and Java are all derived from C) but we still have to learn all those separately still.

Also we're not all uber-nerds, a lot of us look like normal people and drink like several.
 

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JoJo said:
As someone studying a science degree, it pisses me off when some people seem to think that science is all about making random guesses and any implausible hypothesis farted out in the space of five minutes can be a "scientific theory", or that it's "all bullshit". I've even encountered this attitude in people who have taken a science A-level, no less.

True, you can never be sure in science exactly what is right and what will eventually be disproved, but that "bullshit" can still be pretty damn useful when it helps get your car to work every morning, grow the crops you eat for lunch, power the entertainment you consume and save your life when you have a heart attack.
High Five!

I'm doing engineering/science, and I keep having conversations with cranks with insane ideas about physics, which inevitably come down to "That's way too complicated" or "I don't get it", so they say it must be wrong and make up insane bullshit.

Upon being told to provide evidence, by way of data or mathematical argument, and submit it for peer review, they start banging on about free speech.

Science isn't about giving everyone's ideas respect, it's about what's most likely true, and providing ideas and then proving them. The amount of people who believe in the "Mad scientist" trope, and compare themselves to Galileo whilst making up nonsense drives me mental.

Most people are severely science illiterate, and have this insane mentality where they think their entirely uninformed opinions on it should be taken as worth something.
 

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launchpadmcqwak said:
Bass guitar is important :mad:


OT: I'm not old enough to be an expert on anything aside from Elder Scrolls 4. Though I do take RS in college and the amount of misinformation people have about Buddhism is mind-blowing.
 

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SextusMaximus said:
Does it bug you more than people who think Shakespeare's work is garbage? Just curious.
It does, actually, because at least the people who don't like Shakespeare can be reasoned with. Anti-Stratfordians (the people who think Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare) are right up there with moon landing conspiracy theorists.