Porn, what's your opinion?

[Assassin Xaero]

It gross and degrading, but if you want to watch it, go ahead, I'm not...

 

[kouriichi]

Are we talking tenticals or....?

Oh, you mean porn in general. Well, i dont care for most of it. It always ends up zooming into the dudes butt hair. As a mostly heterosexual male, this offends my senses. And the women are always TOO perfect.

Im just not a porn person. My wife tried to get me to watch one with her to get us in the mood, but we ended up with a bowl of popcorn, laughing at the horrible plot.

I dont think that plumber ever did fix the sink.

 

[iLikeHippos]

Honestly, the only way for me to get off is to either have sex, or watch porn. Because, my head's all scrambled, chaotic and screwed up, that without any sort of stimulation for my mind, it'll wander to fifty thoughts a second, ranging from all sorts of events. If I try to get off in the bed without stimulation, I'll think of some sexy girl the one second, than think about Batman and Robin's animated series the other, and than about Captain Jack Sparrow.
I NEED THIS! GRAWLAWALRLALRAEDADAJDA!!!!

At least I can keep myself entertained on a really long ride to some place without stimulation, unsexually... My mind has that part covered, for better or worse.

 

[LongAndShort]

I'll be honest, I'm conflicted about it.

On the one hand the moralist in me fears that the widespread availability, often depicting absolutely unrealistic situations or outright misogynistic (not to mention abusive) situations may be causing major damage to the image or beliefs about women - both by men and other women - is in fact harmful.
A lesser known example that could be argued to be evidence of this is the rise in female genital plastic surgery.... or in my mind its existence at all.

I would like to call that into the bs zone. It is like claiming every super model and every actress and everyone in the public eye that does some kind of plastic surgery is a bad role model and will cause every kid in the world to change. I think that is the equivalent of tossing an issue down a toilet with an excuse to try and justify why you don't want it. The bigger issue is how do we teach those young women and men [who you left out so quickly cause it is still acceptable in society] To accept that who they are and what they look like is fine but to understand that some people will judge and care and insult you based off of it and how to handle those people instead of worrying about some pornstar or actress who got implants or a face lift or some other procedure.

Also to make the point about men more obvious with an exmaple of "Why does a man need to be so buff all the time and when one i the public image gains weight when he was known for being packed he is called into moral question even if the way he got there was through steroids and harming his body with stressful over training?"

Exactly why the moralist in me tends to shut the fuck up when told, and look at some boobs.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Are we talking tenticals or....?

Oh, you mean porn in general. Well, i dont care for most of it. It always ends up zooming into the dudes butt hair. As a mostly heterosexual male, this offends my senses. And the women are always TOO perfect.

Im just not a porn person. My wife tried to get me to watch one with her to get us in the mood, but we ended up with a bowl of popcorn, laughing at the horrible plot.

I dont think that plumber ever did fix the sink.

I'd disagree in part, as if you look at the internet, seems you can be fat, old, hairy, be what's considered 'unattractive' in a dozen different ways, and yet there'll be a fetish site out there devoted to people who want to see your bits. In that way it's more 'equal' than many other things

However, I do have a problem with the sheer amount of abusive porn out there. Even the lesser end of things like the 'bangbus' thing where they pretend to pay a girl for sex in a minibus then drive off without paying, or dump her in the middle of nowhere, it doesn't add anything except coat the entire scene with a layer of disrespect. Would it be too much to see the sex without the need to treat the woman so badly? It's not like anyone is signing up to listen to the idiot lead guy or see the other men.

There's of course far worse out there, but I just can't get behind the amount of stuff portraying women as stupid useless bitches only good as a hole, and the amount of that stuff out there seems to be growing, I can only assume because there's a demand for it, which has to be a bad thing.

 

[Heartcafe]

As long as no one is being hurt (without consent; some people like BDSM) in the process of creating the porn, I don't see anything wrong with it.

To quote an actual porn star, "I get to fuck all day and get paid for it, it's great". Apparently most of them enjoy it, and thinking they feel degraded or hurt is a misconception.

In all honesty, if I had the option to do high-profile porn for a while, I would do it. It's a very successful industry.

This^
Though I probably don't have the porn star attributes to fit such roles *le sigh.

OT: It's alright. People need to jerk off and porn provides a service to those people.

 

[Kargathia]

I dont think that plumber ever did fix the sink.

The perfect summary.

OT: I don't really have any problem with porn, and if you'd pay enough I wouldn't have any qualms either about starring in one.
The problem is though that so far I haven't really found too much that is genuinely sexy. Not even mentioning the noise. It's just like watching tennis.

 

[pablogonzalez]

in all honesty i can say i find it arousing myself however i can't say that for the "extreme porn sense. such as inserting into themselves odd house hold objects actually seems sickening...

 

[Sangreal Gothcraft]

Fun to watch it with a girl and we just laugh at the cheesy dialogue and the cliche's of porn.

 

[SurrealFactory]

I understand the purpose behind it, but I think that deriving sexual pleasure from somebody else having sex with somebody is depraved and deviant behaviour. Softcore pornography of the sort in lads' mags is more tolerable to me; at least I can imagine myself having sex with the woman in question, rather than somebody else.

I also believe that there are too many people around today with no imagination, no ability to get aroused without the crutch of pornographic material.

The depraved, deviant nature of voyeurism is one of the reasons some do enjoy porn. The idea, even, that it is considered depraved can be arousing to some.

Except they aren't real people. And what about any other form of entertainment? Reading a book or watching a film; and here you aren't just seeing them have sex, you're watching their lives unfold. Isn't that voyeurism? Is it deviant when you look in someone's childhood and laugh or cry along side them? No, it's gaining a new perspective on life. I think people have always had this inherent curiosity about what it's like to be someone else. Fiction allows us to know others intimately, or even become them.

Also, I think the "objectification" thing is silly. I don't see how anyone could take Porn seriously. And if people do, it isn't the adult industry's fault, although they could take actions to help this.

 

[TheLoneBeet]

Some of it's awesome. Other stuff is just plain weird. As a whole I guess I'm alright with it.

 

[Stasisesque]

I understand the purpose behind it, but I think that deriving sexual pleasure from somebody else having sex with somebody is depraved and deviant behaviour. Softcore pornography of the sort in lads' mags is more tolerable to me; at least I can imagine myself having sex with the woman in question, rather than somebody else.

I also believe that there are too many people around today with no imagination, no ability to get aroused without the crutch of pornographic material.

The depraved, deviant nature of voyeurism is one of the reasons some do enjoy porn. The idea, even, that it is considered depraved can be arousing to some.

Except they aren't real people. And what about any other form of entertainment? Reading a book or watching a film; and here you aren't just seeing them have sex, you're watching their lives unfold. Isn't that voyeurism? Is it deviant when you look in someone's childhood and laugh or cry along side them? No, it's gaining a new perspective on life. I think people have always had this inherent curiosity about what it's like to be someone else. Fiction allows us to know others intimately, or even become them.

Also, I think the "objectification" thing is silly. I don't see how anyone could take Porn seriously. And if people do, it isn't the adult industry's fault, although they could take actions to help this.

No, it isn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism

 

[Sephael]

x-art is cool if you're into "clean" porn, whatever that might mean haha

 

[KafkaOffTheBeach]

No, it isn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism

Yes it is.
The article you just posted kinda proves it.
Even with the hamhanded wiki writing and definitions.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I tried to watch it with a boyfriend once and it just made me giggle uncontrollably. I don't think that was the reaction he had in mind.

 

[Stasisesque]

No, it isn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism

Yes it is.
The article you just posted kinda proves it.
Even with the hamhanded wiki writing and definitions.

You honestly believe voyeurism means to gain a new perspective on someone's life from watching their lives unfold?

Voyeurism is a sexual activity. It is finding sexual pleasure in watching others engage in sexual or intimate acts. It is not just watching someone. Not as a technical term, certainly not in the context I presented it.

 

[Midnight Llamaman]

No, it isn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism

Yes it is.
The article you just posted kinda proves it.
Even with the hamhanded wiki writing and definitions.

You honestly believe voyeurism means to gain a new perspective on someone's life from watching their lives unfold?

Voyeurism is a sexual activity. It is finding sexual pleasure in watching others engage in sexual or intimate acts. It is not just watching someone. Not as a technical term, certainly not in the context I presented it.

^Bam.
@KafkaOffTheBeach: It's used (wrongly) to describe just spyin' on peoples lives these days, but that doesn't make the word mean what you think it is. It just means you are using the word incorrectly.

 

[IsraelRocks]

Porn, the best way to get your GF to do crazy shit.

 

[KafkaOffTheBeach]

You honestly believe voyeurism means to gain a new perspective on someone's live from watching their lives unfold?

Voyeurism is a sexual activity. It is finding sexual pleasure in watching others engage in sexual or intimate acts. It is not just watching someone. Not as a technical term, certainly not in the context I presented it.

Voyeurism is a sexual activity - yes.
Is it restricted to being only a sexual activity by some strange language quirk?
No.

What is Voyeurism at its core, as a sexual activity?
It is the act of living out your fantasies through other people, through watching other people without the risk of the activity, but with the risk of being caught observing. From this vicarious pleasure one derives pleasure from being the unseen, from being the omnipresent and the omniscient.
Now - I know that this definition is slightly askew due to the fact that I haven't really taken into account the sheer scope of the internet and its ability to publicise the lives of others, but bear with me here.
The core of voyeurism lies in the idea of vicarious living, because voyeurism the sexual act is deriving sexual pleasure vicariously. When we watch TV, or movies, or, god forbid, read books, we inhabit those characters whether we like it or not. We experience emotion through them - we escape from our reality through them and we live out their lives through the craft of the author. We as readers, as viewers, are closer to these characters than anyone else in their 'reality', because we know more about them, because we have experienced what they have experienced from their perspective.
This is voyeurism.
When you open the book you are spying on lives that are a world away from your own, doing things that you wish you could do with people you wish you could be, and, because of your perspective as the omnipresent reader, the camera onto this world, you get to experience emotion through them, and in doing that, and in deriving pleasure from said activities, the reader, the audience, becomes the voyeur - the sad shadow in the curtains deriving pleasure from the most intimate perspective of the most intimate moments of these people and their lives.

Sorry about the slightly off sentence structure and relatively limited vocabulary.
I'm tired.
And very, very cold.