Port of Dark Souls Prepares PC Gamers for Death

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bobmus

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Uhhh, not GFWL!
Even if I can buy it through Steam, GFWL is so bloated and demanding, plus it always forgets my existence and all my saves. I've never finished my PC copy of Bioshock 2 because no matter how many different ways I tried to save, or how far I got through, GFWL would always forget me.
Might have to think twice about this one, not sure it needs any more frustration added to it than it provides.
 

chadachada123

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I will definitely be buying the game. It sucks that it's for GFWL, but at this point it would be grossly immoral of me to not buy it after pushing so hard to push it onto PC.

That said, I'll be writing a letter personally to Namco and FROM to inform them of my dislike of GFWL and other forms of invasive DRM, especially invasive DRM that can corrupt your save files and stuff.
 

Mr Companion

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Im way more exited than I even thought I would be! I played it on ps3 and thought I wouldn't wanna play it all over again for £30, but with extra content I know I bloody will!

Now with that gushing aside FFS sake Namco don't put this on GFWL or indeed EVER on GFWL ever, nobody should. Put it on Steam, say what you like about Steam but so many more people will buy it! Maybe they couldn't for some reason? Whatever its that or about half their potential market is gone because GFWL is the worst thing since fused bread.
 

Yopaz

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I can't see why there's so much hate for GFWL. It's annoying, but the only time it has actively screwed me over is Batman Arkham City. I think I might get this game when it comes out.
 

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Marshall Honorof said:
prepare arguments for why Dark Souls will never be as hardcore as the X [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_(computer_game_series)] series (with the exception of that mollycoddling X3).

Waaaaait wait wait wait wait. Not letting that pass by. You probably wont read this but I found X3 to be just X2 but better. In some sense it was even HARDER for new users as now theres almost no tutorial at all. Also I will be very disappointed if the escapist doesn't review X:Rebirth when it comes out.

OT: Not buying if its on GFWL. I hate that service. Its a maze of menus, bad design and unfriendliness. Steam or we arent talking.

Mr Companion said:
Its not because of bugs etc, its mostly cause its well....bad. Its hard to navigate, its a really bad memory hog, stupidly difficult to set up online/offline profiles, limited selection of games compared to Steam and basically just lacking in features that we have grown used to with Steam. Its the same reason (most) people dont like Origin. We have grown used to Steam and the huge number of features it has, then when a new platform tests the waters with only half the things we are used to, its like swapping out your sports car for a horse and cart.
 

Marshall Honorof

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Doom-Slayer said:
Waaaaait wait wait wait wait. Not letting that pass by. You probably wont read this but I found X3 to be just X2 but better.
Hey, I read my comments! To be honest, I'm not super-familiar with the series, but based on what I've heard about it, thought that'd be a funny aside. No slight intended if you dig X3.
 

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Marshall Honorof said:
Doom-Slayer said:
Waaaaait wait wait wait wait. Not letting that pass by. You probably wont read this but I found X3 to be just X2 but better.
Hey, I read my comments! To be honest, I'm not super-familiar with the series, but based on what I've heard about it, thought that'd be a funny aside. No slight intended if you dig X3.
Haha. Oooh it would be very much. Basically X3's tutorial consists of flying and shooting and absolutely nothing else. It has an incredibly high difficulty curve, and it took me almost 3 games just to learn how to automate some of my ships. Its certainly not a game you just pick up and play, its more of a "dedicate a week to this game" then play.
 

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Well this is awesome news, great to hear it finally hitting the PC.
But about GFWL...well, I don`t really like it. I mean, it`s not horrible, but still...
Either way, the pros outweigh the cons, and I´ll be looking forward to this game nonetheless.
 

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Valagetti said:
So its official.... holy shit!!! I'll just step outside and see if the three horsemen are knocking on my door.
What happened to the fourth?

Anyway: Gods I hate GFWL. I'd be giving this game a go if it wasn't for that.
 

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GFWL = GTFO of my PC, that's all there is to it. Minimum is Steam, but to get the "shut up and take my money" approach, that would require GoG.
 

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pff, coward.

only thing that would stop me from getting it (aside money) is REALLY shitty DRM ... oh wait ...

so unless they change it, i will sadly have to pass :<
 

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Skizle said:
Honestly i am disgusted by this news, this is coming from a PC gamer mind you. Unless they make it so that its mod proof, then the entire game is ruined because of the fact that people will mod it just to tone down the difficulty and that right there folks is why this will probably be a poor port because any sort of challenge that the player might feel is just some time and coding away from being easier.
This would only be an issue if you were playing online. It would suck if you invaded someone's world only to find that all the enemies in their game that you were hoping to take advantage of in defeating the host can be one-shotted with a broken-sword. It would make for some unbalanced invasions.

But to be honest, I don't think modding will be allowed if you're playing online (unless they have a separate dedicated modding server). It would unbalance the invasion/pvp. Dark Souls has always been about being limited to the armour and weapons in the game to create your ultimate build and nothing else. That's part of the challenge. You can't freely mod Dark Souls in the same way you can Skyrim, because the online features are so interwoven into the single player experience. Of course you could just play the game offline completely, but that's half the fun removed in my book.
 

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I just ordered in the 360 version from overseas (special edition 'n all that). ...should I just... cancel the order and get this? ...actually I don't care. If it's that good I'm sure I can buy it twice.
 

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Ninjat_126 said:
So wait, what happens to the people who bought it on 360 and PS3? Do we get a DLC pack or anything?

inb4 "console kiddies". Platform wars are not wanted here, I'm happy to share with the PC gamers.
This. I already bought it on Xbox 360, and while I would have bought the PC version if it had come out simultaneously with the 360 version, I don't know if I can justify buying a game I already have, for another platform. But I'm so totally starved for new Dark Souls content, that if they DON'T release this as DLC for the consoles, I may just break down and buy it again anyway! :(
Also, a stable framerate in Blighttown and New Londo WOULD be nice, so that's another motive.
 

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valkeminator said:
A true gamer should just embrace this growth -- its good for everyone and the industry as a whole. Unless we need to make a new word for racism, but its aimed at what console you play...
The word 'elitism' seems to have mutated to suit that purpose.
 

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I have GFWL on other titles and it doesn't bother me that much. It works just fine on most of them. Only like two titles have had some issues with. But only a few times.

So I'm still getting it. As I really wanted to play it.
 

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its sweet that the PC guys are getting this amazing game hopefully we consol players get the new stuff aswell but ARTORIAS! i cant wait to learn more about that guy.
 

MrTub

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Blurgh :/

I was quite looking forward to this. But Im not sure that I will be buying this game if it have GFWL :/