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Putting aside the obvious massive hit this will deal to free speech if it passes, what really baffles me is how games companies are supporting this. By harming and even destroying websites that would show there stuff (free marketing) they are shooting themselves in the foot. If they made movies it makes slightly more sense since you have the danger of people watching full streaming movies for free, but this is not a problem with games which need to be played. They are ruining their best marketing tool in the hope of salvaging a few lost sales from piracy (some, but not all, wouldn't even be lost since the potential pirate may never have bought the game anyway). And saddest thing is, no one involved in, for example, the ESA seems to realize that SOPA will do nothing to stop actual pirates. Way to shoot yourself in both feet with a shotgun, you fucking geniuses!!
I never said I'm OK with it, infact if anything a I woud slam my head into the wall if it would help out the situation, but I mean the thread isn't about discussing how bad it is. Just yell about how you hate it and it shouldn't pass.XMark said:
EDIT: wrong comment, sorry
There are far too many of them on the internet, but curiosity usually gets the best of me. I wasn't sure whether to be disappointed or not with the I don't want to live on this planet meme at the end.Greni said:
I really don't understand this support for SOPA. I mean, I get it that these politicians and lobbyists believe that they're engaging in a noble cause by trying to combat piracy and return funds to the copyright holders, but haven't they learned that this is not the solution? If you want to combat piracy, you don't sue your potential customers. If you want to maximize revenue, you don't try to shut down half the internet (aka. the greatest content delivery device ever created). If you want people to buy your product, you don't declare war on them.
These SOPA promoters need to have a good long talk with Gabe Newell. His model virtually solved the piracy problem. If millions of people are stealing your product, that means that your business model needs reformation. It means that you need to innovate and change your strategy. Look at what Steam did for the computer gaming industry. The whole industry was on the decline. It was slowly falling apart and the ubiquity of piracy played a major role in that. I can't tell you how many people I knew who pirated ALL their software and never spent a dime on any PC games. Thanks to Steam, however, I do not personally know of a single PC game pirate any more. Not one. Every single person I knew who used to rip all their games now buys them legally on Steam.
Valve saw a problem and instead of desperately trying to attack anyone and everyone around them in a blind rage, they chose to band together with the rest of their industry and find a way to deliver a product to customers that satisfied the customers' needs. Customers have two primary needs with regards to purchasing creative content - ease of access and a proper pricing model. Steam solved both those issues and as a result, countless individuals transformed themselves from software pirates into paying customers. Other industries could learn a lot from this.
The MPAA and RIAA are so fucking stupid. They still don't get it. The technological world has passed them by and instead of trying to keep up with it and instead of making use of new technologies and new consumer trends as a means to profit, they've spent the past decade kicking and screaming about how the world is changing. They refused to acknowledge the market's pricing concerns (who the hell wants to pay $18.99 for a CD?) and they fought tooth and nail against the digital revolution. That's why their industries (especially music) began collapsing. The RIAA, in particular, has been so opposed to meeting customers' needs that the entire organization has been dramatically moving towards irrelevancy. They should thank the gods that iTunes came around when it did to dramatically lessen the blow.
When the music industry started to face problems a decade ago, its first reaction was to sue everyone and their grandmother (literally, as can be seen by all the cases involving technologically illiterate grandmothers being sued by the RIAA). Everyone knew that this strategy was destined to fail and after the RIAA employed it for years with absolutely no success whatsoever, they've now decided to switch things up to employ an even more idiotic strategy. Now they're trying to tear apart the fabric of the internet itself. First they went after the users; now the're going after the infrastructure itself. Not once did the RIAA or MPAA ever stop to think "Hey, maybe we should modernize ourselves and start to acquaint ourselves with the consumer culture around us". They tried the stick and when that failed miserably, instead of trying the carrot, they decided to grab a bigger stick.
So with all that said, I hope that SOPA, PIPA, and any other acronyms that come along are torn up. They are not a solution to the problem and only serve to extend the RIAA and MPAA's scorched earth policy. If your company feels that piracy is a problem, then do something to lure the pirates into becoming paying customers. Valve proved that that is very much possible and that it can be extremely profitable, so it's time for the music and film industries to follow suit and think with their heads for once.
These SOPA promoters need to have a good long talk with Gabe Newell. His model virtually solved the piracy problem. If millions of people are stealing your product, that means that your business model needs reformation. It means that you need to innovate and change your strategy. Look at what Steam did for the computer gaming industry. The whole industry was on the decline. It was slowly falling apart and the ubiquity of piracy played a major role in that. I can't tell you how many people I knew who pirated ALL their software and never spent a dime on any PC games. Thanks to Steam, however, I do not personally know of a single PC game pirate any more. Not one. Every single person I knew who used to rip all their games now buys them legally on Steam.
Valve saw a problem and instead of desperately trying to attack anyone and everyone around them in a blind rage, they chose to band together with the rest of their industry and find a way to deliver a product to customers that satisfied the customers' needs. Customers have two primary needs with regards to purchasing creative content - ease of access and a proper pricing model. Steam solved both those issues and as a result, countless individuals transformed themselves from software pirates into paying customers. Other industries could learn a lot from this.
The MPAA and RIAA are so fucking stupid. They still don't get it. The technological world has passed them by and instead of trying to keep up with it and instead of making use of new technologies and new consumer trends as a means to profit, they've spent the past decade kicking and screaming about how the world is changing. They refused to acknowledge the market's pricing concerns (who the hell wants to pay $18.99 for a CD?) and they fought tooth and nail against the digital revolution. That's why their industries (especially music) began collapsing. The RIAA, in particular, has been so opposed to meeting customers' needs that the entire organization has been dramatically moving towards irrelevancy. They should thank the gods that iTunes came around when it did to dramatically lessen the blow.
When the music industry started to face problems a decade ago, its first reaction was to sue everyone and their grandmother (literally, as can be seen by all the cases involving technologically illiterate grandmothers being sued by the RIAA). Everyone knew that this strategy was destined to fail and after the RIAA employed it for years with absolutely no success whatsoever, they've now decided to switch things up to employ an even more idiotic strategy. Now they're trying to tear apart the fabric of the internet itself. First they went after the users; now the're going after the infrastructure itself. Not once did the RIAA or MPAA ever stop to think "Hey, maybe we should modernize ourselves and start to acquaint ourselves with the consumer culture around us". They tried the stick and when that failed miserably, instead of trying the carrot, they decided to grab a bigger stick.
So with all that said, I hope that SOPA, PIPA, and any other acronyms that come along are torn up. They are not a solution to the problem and only serve to extend the RIAA and MPAA's scorched earth policy. If your company feels that piracy is a problem, then do something to lure the pirates into becoming paying customers. Valve proved that that is very much possible and that it can be extremely profitable, so it's time for the music and film industries to follow suit and think with their heads for once.
Agree with everything you just said.marioandsonic said:Snip
Oh, and if Cool Kid shows up, tell me, so I can be prepared for the shitstorm of flame that will be unleashed on this guy.
I will happilly fight by your side when it does happen. AND IT WILL.
Nice call. But if you are expecting to escape SOPA or PIPA, you're wrong. It is mostly against (and I am quoting from a Republican) "Foreign pirates", based "Outside the US".bazaalmon said:
Yes, it's that fucked. Man, if The Cool Kid finds out about what I just said there will be hell to pay...
OH SHIT. I think I just jinxed myself 0___0
I for one never said that I was OK with it, in fact I would slam my head into a wall if it would help to stop SOPA/PIPA.Waaghpowa said:
I just said to yell at the American who thought of the idea/the idea itself.
Capatcha: "Cliciate khao!" Da faq?
...Waaghpowa said:
That dude is stupid and doesn't understand how this effects anyone. What a moron. I know I've mentioned this guy too many times on this thread but it's the the Cool Kid all over again...