Pre-Order Bonus Shennanigans
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Didn't they do that when Human Revolutions came out though? I pre-ordered on Steam only to find out that if I wanted the silenced sniper I had to go somewhere else, and if I wanted the grenade launcher I'd have to go somewhere completely different. They should eventually be buyable on Steam as DLC I think. That's not saying it's a good idea as it might piss off a whole lot of the fan base, but at least it'll give us the whole of the pre-order benefits...
I can see where your frustration is coming from, but I can also see what they mean by "buy the box tailored to your playstyle."
For the most part, gamers have prefered classes. In FPS's, some people prefer sniping over everything else, some prefer to run around like a madman with a shotgun. In RPG's, some people prefer being tanks, others rogues, others mages, etc. As such, judging by the information you've been given, you can get a general idea about what kind of class those bonuses will be good for. A sneaky-sneak? A more magic-centric character? A ninja assassin? When I got Dark Siders 2, for instance, I didn't know anything about the game, but taking one look at the skill tree I knew I wanted to go into the Magic side rather than the Combat side. Why? Because I like mages more than warriors.
When picking up Skyrim, I had never played it before, but I already knew exactly what I wanted to do with it: be a sneaky assassin, creeping through the dungeons, and if I get caught, whip out the Destruction magic. It proved very effective in keeping the game both fun and challenging. I knew well before getting the game the type of character that I would be playing.
Granted, people make alts/new characters for new playthroughs. And oh poo, you don't get the three nifty bonuses for your new character type. Personally I think it's not that big of a deal so long as you make sure that the bonuses you DO get are good for the type of class that you want to play.
Beyond that, it's no different than console-exclusive content. For example, Soul Calibur 4 gave PS3 players Darth Vader and 360 players Yoda. Numerous other games have done stuff like this as well. Does that mean you should go out and buy a new console and another copy of the game just so you can get ALL the bonus bits?
Another way to look at it is at least you're getting SOMETHING. How about the people that aren't preordering it? They don't get any class bonuses at all.
For the most part, gamers have prefered classes. In FPS's, some people prefer sniping over everything else, some prefer to run around like a madman with a shotgun. In RPG's, some people prefer being tanks, others rogues, others mages, etc. As such, judging by the information you've been given, you can get a general idea about what kind of class those bonuses will be good for. A sneaky-sneak? A more magic-centric character? A ninja assassin? When I got Dark Siders 2, for instance, I didn't know anything about the game, but taking one look at the skill tree I knew I wanted to go into the Magic side rather than the Combat side. Why? Because I like mages more than warriors.
When picking up Skyrim, I had never played it before, but I already knew exactly what I wanted to do with it: be a sneaky assassin, creeping through the dungeons, and if I get caught, whip out the Destruction magic. It proved very effective in keeping the game both fun and challenging. I knew well before getting the game the type of character that I would be playing.
Granted, people make alts/new characters for new playthroughs. And oh poo, you don't get the three nifty bonuses for your new character type. Personally I think it's not that big of a deal so long as you make sure that the bonuses you DO get are good for the type of class that you want to play.
Beyond that, it's no different than console-exclusive content. For example, Soul Calibur 4 gave PS3 players Darth Vader and 360 players Yoda. Numerous other games have done stuff like this as well. Does that mean you should go out and buy a new console and another copy of the game just so you can get ALL the bonus bits?
Another way to look at it is at least you're getting SOMETHING. How about the people that aren't preordering it? They don't get any class bonuses at all.
That right there is a trap. You can only use the gold key once for a account, not per character, Per Account. Use it too soon, you get a decent weapon or two, but useless after a few levels. But once you open the chest, no more key, and if you start a new character, no chest. Best to wait until level 50, than get loot that doesnt become useless right off the bat.KingsGambit said:
Or sign-up for Gearbox's Shift [https://shift.gearboxsoftware.com/home].
OT: Yeah, it sucks when you cant get something because you pre-ordered the game from elsewhere. But it really doesnt matter all that much in most cases, as the pre-order bonus may usually be things that only make the start of the game easier.
Yes, using arbitrary factors like the store that supplies the game in determining what content people have access to is a step beyond my regular hatred of pre-order bonuses, day 1 or on-disc DLC, etc., because at least those have some logic to them.
At first I thought this was going to be something like what Fallen Earth did, where one place gave you a kinda sucky ATV (but still, ATV from lvl 1 is sweet enough), from steam you got a custom in-game shirt with some fair bonuses, and another place gave you something like a custom pet or mount, I don't quite remember. I was fine with this, all the items were quite insignificant (even the first few horses available are far better than the starter ATV for example), the only truly useful item was the Steam shirt which had some decent stats you wouldn't end up swapping out until quite a lot later in the game (most shirts doesn't even have a bonus, at least not last I played...).
This pre-order deal seems pretty extensive though. You seem to get a lot of content from every one of those places, which is a very strange and possibly not a very clever thing to do. Would it be more acceptable if you could buy these pieces induvidually as DLC later down the line? I'll leave that question hanging...
This pre-order deal seems pretty extensive though. You seem to get a lot of content from every one of those places, which is a very strange and possibly not a very clever thing to do. Would it be more acceptable if you could buy these pieces induvidually as DLC later down the line? I'll leave that question hanging...
I really wish we would go back to the old days of preordering where you got something physical for it instead of DLC that I don't use more than twice 90% of the time.
Also since I support our malevolent overlords known as Gamestop, I just get whatever preorder stuff they have.
Also since I support our malevolent overlords known as Gamestop, I just get whatever preorder stuff they have.
All the DX:HR pre-order content is available on Steam. It's the "Explosive Mission" and "Tactical Enhancement" pack, if I remember correctly.bl4ckh4wk64 said:
Well, we've known about the "girlfriend class" for months prior to the game's release. It doesn't take the same amount of work as an entirely new set of missions (which require voice acting/level design/etc). I'm sure that Gearbox was working on this concurrently, but I give them the benefit of the doubt because:KingsGambit said:
(a) they're a developer that seems highly committed to fan satisfaction, with a CEO who always makes himself available to the media and the fanbase (Pitchford)
(b) they explained quite clearly what it was, and why it was being developed.
(c) I trust that their business practices are more ethical than that of EA, who pretends that they don't develop this content and sneak it onto the disc for people to buy later.
Yea, thought I said that but it looks like I just stated what was and segwayed straight into what should be. They should eventually have the pre-order DLC avaiable for Dishonored much like what happened with Human Revolutions.crazyrabbits said:
There's a window between the game being done and the game being released where the developers have nothing to do.crazyrabbits said:
It only makes sense to start work on DLC during that time.
To plan for it and to use it for marketing is pretty clever.
And to give it away for free shows that they're not dickholes.
It's win-win-win.
It's all so that a certain retailer can get more day 1 sales than another. By way of simply trying to do business, it's just another business practice to make more money. But I still think it's bullshit either way.
was abit suprised by this since ive wanting it on STEAM.. but after googling i found this http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-27-dishonored-pre-order-bonuses-revealed it says they are downloadable.. i think they will be released later on to buy for a small amount.. like Deus Ex: Human Revolution also had different preorder bonus things and 1-2 months after you could buy them as DLC for lik 1-2 euros on steam.. not that bad imo.
But yeah its a douchebag move by developers
But yeah its a douchebag move by developers
What, exactly, are these bonuses? Pre-ordering bonuses have always seemed insipid and vestigial. So... are you upset that content will be missed, or that you won't be able to get all the insipidly vestigial crap they try to offer to make you waste time with pre-orders?
If you've ever played an MMO, there are usually, fairly useless, items people get for being a beta-tester or whatever, and you learn to not worry about not having those. I suggest taking two hours of Maplestory each day until you come to terms with missing out on pointless things.
If you've ever played an MMO, there are usually, fairly useless, items people get for being a beta-tester or whatever, and you learn to not worry about not having those. I suggest taking two hours of Maplestory each day until you come to terms with missing out on pointless things.