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RazadaMk2 said:
Da pyro man 999 said:
For all those who don't know, a precognitive dream is when people dream of events that eventually happen. I have been having these dreams with alarming regularity and, while it is cool to dream something and then have it actually happen, it has made me very curious as to how is it possible that people can dream things that haven't happened yet. When talking to a friend, we discussed the idea that our perception of time as a species, being that it goes in a straight line, is wrong.(Yes, I suppose you could say that time wibbly wobbily, timey whimey stuff). So, what are your guys thoughts?
You can't.

Well, that was easy.

Sorry. Every "Academic" that works in the field of "Parapsychology" should be taken out and shot. Its shit like that which makes the entire field less respectable. Giving something a latin name does not make it a thing.

Your dreams that seem to be "Of future events"? Meh. I have absolutely no view on the matter. Dream psychology is about as useless as parapsychology and, again, gives the entire academic field a bad name. Freud was talking out of his ass. This is a widely accepted fact. Whatever dreams you have that seem to represent future events? Meh. Part of you remembers a dream, the dream loosely fits the events occuring, brain fills in blanks to make it seem like you had dreamed it all before.

Memories are liquid. Memories of dreams even more so. You can implant a memory in someones head with relative ease (No, I am not talking Inception, I am talking the psychological study carried out by Elizabeth Loftus. http://faculty.washington.edu/eloftus/Articles/sciam.htm). So your dreams of the future? I simply put them down to you wanting to believe and your brain altering the memory of the dream to make it apply.

Either that or you are somehow dreaming of the future. Cause yeah, that doesn't fly in the face of modern science or anything and it is totally logical to assume that over established psychological theory.

Sorry if this came accross as harsh. But I dismiss any dream study (PURELY introspective qualitative data is impossible to use in real science), I dismiss any "Memory" of a dream and I dismiss everything and anything that comes out of the field of Parapsychology.

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Matthew94 said:
What are you actually dreaming?

If it's something like "Oh, I dreamt I ate some toast" then don't get yourself into a fuss.
Personally, I've dreamt specific conversations that later happened, or things like being given something.

The twist is that in the dream, I always get in trouble, or people get angry or something, and then in reality, it's all good, but otherwise exactly the same.
If you cannot be bothered to read the study I just sent you, here is the lowdown.

They made people remember things which had never happened. Visibly remember. The people in the study BELIEVED that a specific event had happened. So what is more likely, that you have the ability to "Dream the future" or that brains are weird, memories are fluid and you simply THINK that the dream came first.

Either accept the science disagrees with your own world perception or start a cult. Doesn't really bother me either way.
Yeah, you don't need to rant. I was just saying it was something interesting that I didn't really understand. If that's the reason, that's the reason. Now chill out.
 

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There is no evidence that precognitive dreams are real. And a lot of times that people go "that happened in my dream last night" they neglect to mention that about 100 different things that didn't occur in real life also happened in that dream that they either neglected to mention or forget about. So even if something occurred in your dream that was possible enough to occur in real life, it wasn't because you are partially psychic, it was because what you dreamt was probably a pretty mundane thing. [footnote]I used to think I was having precognitive dreams when I was in high school, but then I realized that it was because my high school life was incredibly monotonous.[/footnote]

So as others pointed out, it is probably confirmation bias mixed with an malleable/imperfect memory of your dream. Or you were consciously trying to make something you dreamt about occur (i.e. steering a conversation into a conversation you had in a dream), in which case it shouldn't be surprising if it happened.
 

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Isn't dreaming about unconscious mind dumps where you brain tries to make sense of shit you've already seen?
 

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Pinkamena said:
Often, your brain can alter your memories. So if something happens and you're like "Oh wow! I dreamt this x weeks ago!" then it's likely that your brain quickly altered your memory so it would reflect what's happening.
^This. It's exactly how Deja 'Vu works: a glitch in your brain causing you to believe you've been here before. It's incredibly convincing.

Captcha: Oh, you

I'm sure there's a joke there somewhere...
 

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Spot1990 said:
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That?s déjà vu, not precognition. Contrary to popular belief, they?re not actually the same thing. Look it up.

However, I don't want to sound like a spiritualist loony or anything, but it wouldn't be at all wrong to theorize that humans do have some kind of subconscious precognitive ability, like tapping into more of their brain power or something.
... More of their brain power? You don't actually believe that "we only use 10% of our brain" thing do you?
N...nooooooo...

I always accepted it as scientific fact. No-one ever told me otherwise. What percentage of our brain power do we use, or are we just using all of it? Or is it just a myth that anthropocentric scientists pushed to fuel their bias that we're all special (not in the retard way) people with potential beyond our current capacity or whatever?
 

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Relish in Chaos said:
N...nooooooo...

I always accepted it as scientific fact. No-one ever told me otherwise. What percentage of our brain power do we use, or are we just using all of it? Or is it just a myth that anthropocentric scientists pushed to fuel their bias that we're all special (not in the retard way) people with potential beyond our current capacity or whatever?
We use pretty much all of our brains just not at the same time. Increasing brain activity at one time isn't associated with superpowers but with depression.
 

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I was had a dream I won money on the lottery.

The next Saturday I got a ticket and did indeed win....

A whole £10.

Oh how I celebrated.
 

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I get crazy deja vu, but I'm pretty sure that's because I really don't pay attention to what's going on around me, so I'll be walking down a hallway and think, "Wait, have I walked down this hallway before? I don't think so, have I? I feel like I have. Have I seen that door before? What is going on? OMG I must be a magical fortune telling space alien, it all makes so much sense...oh wait I have walked down this corridor before."
 

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I've had one episode of (waking) precognition in my life, which I attribute to God. It may be that God has been sending you these dreams for a reason. My recommendation is to pray and try to open your mind to what He's trying to tell you.

Of course, I'm aware that not everyone is religious like me; please take no offense at my advice if you are not.
 

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Relish in Chaos said:
Spot1990 said:
Relish in Chaos said:
That?s déjà vu, not precognition. Contrary to popular belief, they?re not actually the same thing. Look it up.

However, I don't want to sound like a spiritualist loony or anything, but it wouldn't be at all wrong to theorize that humans do have some kind of subconscious precognitive ability, like tapping into more of their brain power or something.
... More of their brain power? You don't actually believe that "we only use 10% of our brain" thing do you?
N...nooooooo...

I always accepted it as scientific fact. No-one ever told me otherwise. What percentage of our brain power do we use, or are we just using all of it? Or is it just a myth that anthropocentric scientists pushed to fuel their bias that we're all special (not in the retard way) people with potential beyond our current capacity or whatever?
I have a B.S. in psychology, with an unofficial emphasis in biology, so I may be able to help here. We generally use only a certain percentage of our brains *at any given time*, but all of the brain gets used throughout your life. Different parts of the brain do different things, some of them contradictory to each other, so you don't want all your neurons firing at once; if they did, you'd likely die, or at least have some extraordinary hallucinations and seizures. How much of your brain is in use depends on, well, how much of it you happen to be using at the time.

Think of your brain as a console on the bridge of a starship. There's a ton of things that console *could* be doing, but it's generally only doing a few at any given time. If it was doing literally everything it could do -- such as trying to turn the ship both port and starboard at the same time -- it would be counterproductive or even dangerous.

The more knowledge and ability you have in a specific area, the more neurons you brain devotes to that area. That's where we get the whole story about Einstein using more of his brain than we do; it's true when he works in his chosen field, but at no other time. He's only using more brain because he's devoted more neurons to the subject, which is something any of us could do.

Of course, I only have an undergraduate education on the matter, and it's been a few years since I studied all of this; I would not call myself an expert. But overall I would say that the "we only use 10% of our brain" concept is a myth. I hope this post was helpful to you.
 

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Abandon4093 said:
persephone said:
I've had one episode of (waking) precognition in my life, which I attribute to God. It may be that God has been sending you these dreams for a reason. My recommendation is to pray and try to open your mind to what He's trying to tell you.

Of course, I'm aware that not everyone is religious like me; please take no offense at my advice if you are not.
Abandon4093 said:
One really bizarre quirk I have is that when I talk about something, like a film, or specific episode of a TV program with my mates. With insane regularity that show or film will come on a channel we're both watching within the next few days. Also more regularly, I'll simply think about a film or tv program and when I'm flicking over a few days later it'll come on.

It's happened since I was a child and there at least 5 friends that have noticed it and mentioned how weird it is.

What's actually happening? No idea, I doubt it's latent psychic abilities or anything like that though.

Imagine if it was though? What a shit superpower I've got. Doubt I'll be making it to the Xavier institute with that on my resume.
No idea. I don't think all "psychic" phenomena are necessarily divine in nature, but it's always a possibility.
 

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I know what you mean OP, had a few in my time, nothing major (in terms of events and usually on a couple of seconds) and probably explainable (as many people have already stated).
 

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Da pyro man 999 said:
For all those who don't know, a precognitive dream is when people dream of events that eventually happen. I have been having these dreams with alarming regularity and, while it is cool to dream something and then have it actually happen, it has made me very curious as to how is it possible that people can dream things that haven't happened yet. When talking to a friend, we discussed the idea that our perception of time as a species, being that it goes in a straight line, is wrong.(Yes, I suppose you could say that time wibbly wobbily, timey whimey stuff). So, what are your guys thoughts?
Want a million bucks?

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

Surprised this hasn't been brought up before.
 

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I have had moments of precognition or intuition or gut feeling, you just seem to see the event unfold in your mind and then it happens granted these events happen a couple secs later its that feeling when watching a match and just seeing/knowing the other team will score before it happens. I was once at a busy crossroad and i just knew that there was going to be a crash before the lights changed, it was a low speed crash just some bodywork damage to cars. I read somewhere that it is plausible for people to see a couple of secs into the future because of sub-concious information.
Though precog dreams have never happened to me (though my dreams are fairly abstract and i rarely have them, that i remember) though if these are acts you perform in the dream, then you perform the same acts in reality that may be similar to a self-fulfilling prophecy, because you performed the act in the dream you then perform the act in reality. If your dreams revolve around scenes you witness and not involved in directly which then occur in reality thats a little more interesting and i can't advise you there.
 
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Could you let me know when you get the Lotto numbers? Seriously, though it is probably coincidence unless you predict something really bizarre like Megan Fox doing a naked backwards crab walk. So unless you record it for proof then no. Myself I've forgotten things I've said and have had people forgotten things they've said(or so they said) to the point where they don't believe it happened etc. This is probably just deja vu as already said.
 

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I've had many strange instances with what I thought precog stuff. I used to be able to tell know episode of certain shows was about to air. It was usually reruns or shows in syndication. It used to freak me out until a little reason creeped into my head. I used to fall asleep watching tv every night and I'd hear the commercials for the upcoming episodes. So when that show came on, I'd think "this is the episodes when X does Y" and sure enough, it was. I haven't had this issue since I took the tv out of my bedroom. I also don't really watch tv anymore so I'm sure that helps too.