If the news does repoty on any controversy it will be abou that girl's spectacular cleverage rather than the political commentary, they didnt complain about the first one surprisingly even though you could kill children
Prediction: Bioshock Infinite will be controversial for the game's internal politics.
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LOl you wimpDustyDrB said:
I think this looks amazing and I agree with you I think it's going to awaken some debate over politics. It's nice that they would put something in this deep for gamers and it will be interesting after playing it to discuss the implications of the plot.
I think they are showing the extremes of each political movement, the control and militarism of the founders and the anarchy and violence of the vox populi. I'm guessing as Dewitt (sp?) you will almost feel liek a normal person of today caught between this liberal and conservative struggle that we experience even here in Britain (I won't into the details of the murky politics of the last election...) The fact that he mentions a student movement in that video makes me think back to the riots earlier this year.
It will be interesting to play indeed.
Apperently it's okay to kill creepy children. :/spartandude said:
It was a damn typo and why the hell does it matter if I call it the Video Game Industry, which is 17 letters on my keyboard an 19 if you count the spaces or just call it the medium, a nice 6 letter word. Maybe your just mocking it as a typo which I'm unaware of, fine be a Grammer Nazi. How about I compromise with you and call it the Industry, which has 11 letters? I mean honestly why do you care?mikev7.0 said:
No really, eating walnuts actually builds courage. Psedu-science fact!DustyDrB said:I'm jittery. I can't help it. Things jumping out at me will make me freak the fuck out (I've hit people, and I mean really hit for talking to me when I didn't know they were behind me. Call my mom and ask her. I felt bad about that one...). And then expecting it to happen again will give me anxiety.Blatherscythe said:Here take these, they'll help.DustyDrB said:
I really doubt any news media will take notice. They watch gaming in 5-second snippets. If something controversial isn't made immediately clear through that (sex, violence, ripping someone's head off), then they dismiss it. It's certainly not as if games have PLOT or any CONTINUING THEME.
Bottom line: If a character is going to insult fox news, make sure the sentence where he does so is at least 6 seconds long.
Bottom line: If a character is going to insult fox news, make sure the sentence where he does so is at least 6 seconds long.
Speculate away! That reasoning makes a lot of sense really. It's just that I know good, smart people who subscribe to that ideology (Conservativism) and they just wave away the things she said that are directly opposed to their beliefs and just say "Well it's not ALL genius...." I guess I can't talk much though because while I like parts of what Ayn Rand says, I can't agree with her on all of it (for one, I'm a Deist.) so I kind of see what they are saying, but I can admit that part of Rand's philosophy offends me, they act like she hung the moon and just "was having a thing." when she wrote "that" part. Lame.Gethsemani said:
Wait, what kind of person will get riled up about the political views of fictional characters?
In any case, I doubt there will be any big thing about it, no one made a fuss about Ezio's blatant anti-organised-religion speech in ACII, and that was probably played by more people than this will be.
In any case, I doubt there will be any big thing about it, no one made a fuss about Ezio's blatant anti-organised-religion speech in ACII, and that was probably played by more people than this will be.
Actually I don't THAT much, I just wanted to know which "Left wing nutjob" was an enemy to Video Games?Blatherscythe said:
As for the typo, I wasn't aware that putting something in quotation marks was mocking it. In fact I was taught in my english class that it meant you were questioning it. Which was all I was doing. As for your (and many others) use of Medium, there are just a whole lot more words, many of which are a LOT less used, that make it not as confusing. Yes, industry is a much better word, video games have been around for quite awhile and they've done it without a rebranding. In fact that's just what I and everyone I have ever really met calls "the Industry": "Video Games." Short. Simple. A definition that makes it tough to NOT know what is being discussed. So if voicing the opinion that I think the word medium has been done to death means I need to be compared to a group that was bent on genocide? Uh, well, that's YOUR opinion oh ye' who take such offense at being "mocked" (see that? It means I question not mock your use of the word mock. Confused yet? Wait it gets betta'....)
By the way if you ARE going to label people using such an extreme word (Nazi) I'm at least going to earn it.
You spelled "grammar" wrong.
It's Propaganda. It's purpose is to brainwash the masses into believing its message. In this case it's trying to inspire nationalistic feelings. It's not supposed to be subtle. Take a look at some World War 2 propaganda, especially the stuff in Nazi Germany. There's nothing subtle about it.Ian Caronia said:However, I also think that image is the most grotesque attempt at being irreverent I've seen since Duke Nukem Forever, though at least DNF was just being silly to be silly (and stuck to poking at other franchises, so you could laugh if you wanted and not lose your IQ).Not G. Ivingname said:
_This? This can't be in Bioshock Infinite. It's...
Stupid. Incredibly stupid. Insultingly stupid. This is either a very lame joke that not even Rockstar would put into a GTA game, or it's a sad realization of how the developers will handle the subject matter you're talking about.
Wow. Just...wow. No subtlety at all. Put it this way: That image is EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of how I think games should handle complex subject matter. One sided and absolutely lazy. Don't seem to recall the original being so...so...
Where's that overused "AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!" song to go with that pic?
EDIT: Nevermind. I'm thoroughly disappointed in this game now >_>
You misunderstood me -- I meant that Rapture was a city founded on a belief system, just as I suspect Colombia will be; not that they were both based on the same thing. Secondly, I've only watched a grand total of one Infinite trailer, and I left with the impression that the inhabitants were racist nationalists that did indeed produce "ridiculous and offensive hyperbole": I never considered it representative of Constitutionalism at all. My original post was asking if they could clarify whether they were annoyed at the poster itself (in which case, we're meant to find it offensive), or how the poster represented its ideas (a one-sided view of a belief system).Soggy_Popcorn said:
Ok Captain, let me tell you a story. I don't know it by heart, but I can tell you most of it.mikev7.0 said:
So, as I said Rand was a anarchist back in her youth, and she had a boyfriend who was one too. Her boyfriend gets it in his head that he's going to help the "anarchist movement", and he thinks the best way is to assassinate the president. Well she is onboard with this whole thing, and they start up the "plan". They think the best way to do it is for him to just go up to the guy when he's out in public, and just shoot him point blank. Problem is, they don't have a gun, or the money to get one. However, Rand comes up with an idea to get it. I am pretty sure it was just her idea because if her boyfriend did know about it well....then he was even more nuts than I thought.
She decides to get the money by...how to put it? Using her "womanly wiles".....If you didn't get what I ment then I'll just say it now. She tried to whore herself. So, by herself she put on the "whore uniform" of that time and goes out at night. However, she just can't do it. She breaks down, and runs back inside. Then she give herself a little peptalk. She says to herself that if her boyfriend can be willing to give his life for this, then I can at least give my body. So she goes to try again.
This time a guy comes up to her, but not for what you think. He must of been very perceptive (or she must have been very obvious) because the guy goes up to her and tells her something along the lines the she really isn't the type of girl to be doing this. Then the guy gives her some money, and tells her something like stay off the streets and try to get a better life. Well Rand was overjoyed. She got the money, and she didn't even have to do anything to get it. However, the grand skeem failed. I can't remember what exactly, but her boyfriend either got put in jail for some other crime or something like that. Point is, Rand's boyfriend was nolonger able to do the deed. So, Rand gave it up, and started on her way to what she became later.
Its funny really. Rand's life of telling the world about a lifestyle that can be very simply summed up as; "I got mine Jack. F@#k the rest of you.", may not have been if not for some guy giving help to a very desperate girl he didn't know, and for nothing in return.
So that's the story, or at least how I heard it. You could probably find a more detailed verizon, but that's most the of it.
IIRC somebody asked Levine about the whole "Columbia=Tea Party" and he said that wasn't his intention. Besides, Bioshock wasn't critical about Objectivism, it just told how people can't blindly follow ideals. Like Ryan ultimatly became the very thing he preached out against; a tyrant
So first,how is Resident Evil 5 racist?I'm sorry I just have to ask this.
As for the politics,don't get the game if you don't like it.Even if the political speak strikes me as bad,I can still shotgun the guy who says it.
As for the politics,don't get the game if you don't like it.Even if the political speak strikes me as bad,I can still shotgun the guy who says it.
Exactly,how do people rush to conclusions so quickly when the answer is RIGHT THERE.Nieroshai said:
Metaphor time: people LOVE to b**ch and moan about the wrapping paper on their present to the point that they don't care to tear it open. In fact, they haven't even looked at the box, they let some guy on a website tell them what the wrapping paper looked like, and even that all that's in the box is more wrapping paper. Long story short: people are sheep who feel what they're told.Psycho Cat Industries said: