Prejudice

[SuccessAndBiscuts]

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I think that's more hazardous stupidity than prejudice. But yes, because my girlfriend is Scottish I occasionally get mocked by them for my pronunciation.

I want you to think about that for a second: Scottish people, mocking an English person, for their pronunciation of English words. It's as stupid as it sounds.
EDIT:

Well, other than the occasional "English bastard", "Go home", and violence which used to be directed towards me, no. It's not always pleasant sounding English in Scotland.

It appears I've been partially ninja'd.

Yea disregard the years of anti-Scottish prejudice to the extent of trying to drive out the native language and it does seem a bit stupid.

Yes there is prejudice in Scotland towards the English but I would argue you get off relatively lightly compared to a Scot south of the border, at least we honour your currency.

Yes but that's the thing: I'm an 18 year old guy who's been born into the 21st century...I haven't done anything to any group of people. And the people I'm talking about here are around the age of 16. Politics comes nowhere into it.

And I'm a 20 year old guy, I haven't done anything to any group of people. But I get abuse south of the border because of my accent. Two sides, same coin.

I'm not 100% that you're getting my point there. You spoke about 'the years of anti-Scottish prejudice' but I myself and the people concerned with this aren't in the right kind of time for it to be a politically based thing.

I lived in Carlisle for 4 years, arguably the most anti Scottish city in England, and Glasgow for 2, and I have to say the Scots are far more anti-English than vice versa. It's understandable considering the history, but in nearly every part of the country your accent wont change the way people treat you. In fact, from Manchester south, it works in your favour.

As for "honouring the currency", that's a stupid thing to say. An extremely high majority vote SNP and are British seperatist. People are welcome to practice their own language as well. Look how well it schemes have launched in Wales and Cornwall. If you feel strongly about that, you should work with it and encourage it. I for one would back you, because history and heritage is very important

The first paragraph is an opinion and I cant really argue that suffice to say it doesn't match my own experience but then it wouldn't anyway.

The second on the other hand, regardless of how people vote we are still at this time part of the UK so why do I go through hell trying to use Scottish notes south of the border?

Finally, trying to bring back an almost dead language is tricky at best but I personally do what I can when I can to aid the process.

 

[Jonluw]

No I have not.

The closest would be not being included in serious conversations because I am technically still a child.

Edit: Which is understandable; after all, children are really annoying.

 

[Verlander]

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The first paragraph is an opinion and I cant really argue that suffice to say it doesn't match my own experience but then it wouldn't anyway.

The second on the other hand, regardless of how people vote we are still at this time part of the UK so why do I go through hell trying to use Scottish notes south of the border?

Finally, trying to bring back an almost dead language is tricky at best but I personally do what I can when I can to aid the process.

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To be honest there are 2 big reasons as to why the note are harder to spend in England. Firstly, they are just rarer. There are a lot less of them percentage wise than there are English. The second reason is the variety. Every bank in Scotland has a design, whereas in England, only the Bank of England designs and releases the note. Which means that for an English cashier, anyone could pass off a fake Scottish note, or an out of date one, and they wouldn't be any the wiser. When I was working in Carlisle, where there was a lot of people coming down or through from Scotland, it took me well over a year to get used to them and understand all of them, and it was my job. Throw in the occasional northern Irish note, and you go to bed with a headache!

It would be a lot easier if there was a single printed currency, but that would take away the individuality of the other countries in the United Kingdom, and in my opinion, that isn't right. I'd also like to take this moment to say that I love the Scottish! I go up there whenever I ahve the opportunity, it's a beautiful land, and the people are as decent as you'll meet anywhere.

Oh, and I respect the language thing, and I hope it goes well. Anti-country sentiment is ridiculous to me. Where you are born is a coincidence of birth, something you have zero control over. Hating someone for where they are from is stupid, and I enjoy knocking peoples head together when I hear them doing it!

Cheers for giving me a decnet response man, and not getting arsey with my potentially hostile-sounding message earlier

 

[Arkzism]

when certain people find out i dont believe in god. i get the oh no you must accept jesus into your heart or the ill pray for you... then on top of that i keep my sexuality on the down low

 

[crudus]

I have been discriminated against because I am an atheist.

 

[Rolf]

Well because i don't have a girlfriend and because i don't like Football im gay. And those calling me gay because of these reasons don't have girlfriends either. Wierd how that works

 

[Acier]

I've been bullied and ridiculed because of my skin color.

I'm white. :/

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

I think that's more hazardous stupidity than prejudice. But yes, because my girlfriend is Scottish I occasionally get mocked by them for my pronunciation.

I want you to think about that for a second: Scottish people, mocking an English person, for their pronunciation of English words. It's as stupid as it sounds.
EDIT:

Well, other than the occasional "English bastard", "Go home", and violence which used to be directed towards me, no. It's not always pleasant sounding English in Scotland.

It appears I've been partially ninja'd.

Yea disregard the years of anti-Scottish prejudice to the extent of trying to drive out the native language and it does seem a bit stupid.

Yes there is prejudice in Scotland towards the English but I would argue you get off relatively lightly compared to a Scot south of the border, at least we honour your currency.

Yes but that's the thing: I'm an 18 year old guy who's been born into the 21st century...I haven't done anything to any group of people. And the people I'm talking about here are around the age of 16. Politics comes nowhere into it.

And I'm a 20 year old guy, I haven't done anything to any group of people. But I get abuse south of the border because of my accent. Two sides, same coin.

I'm not 100% that you're getting my point there. You spoke about 'the years of anti-Scottish prejudice' but I myself and the people concerned with this aren't in the right kind of time for it to be a politically based thing.

Yea I kinda bypassed that but what you have to understand is that it still works both ways, I couldn't blame anyone for what their ancestors did but it did happen and there is a resentment of that that exists outside of politics or even any real understanding.

My 10 year old brother was happy that England got knocked out of the world cup but couldn't put together any real reason why when I asked him, it was simply because his friends, family and their/our friends/family felt the same way. Its an ingrained mindset right or wrong and it exists on both sides.

No, very true. It kind of becomes a 'that's just the way it is' kind of mindset, doesn't it.

You know, my girlfriend and her friends are the same. She had to explain that she has nothing against the English and doesn't care that I am. Her only reasoning was 'I'm Scottish, it's genetic'.

 

[SuccessAndBiscuts]

The first paragraph is an opinion and I cant really argue that suffice to say it doesn't match my own experience but then it wouldn't anyway.

The second on the other hand, regardless of how people vote we are still at this time part of the UK so why do I go through hell trying to use Scottish notes south of the border?

Finally, trying to bring back an almost dead language is tricky at best but I personally do what I can when I can to aid the process.

To be honest there are 2 big reasons as to why the note are harder to spend in England. Firstly, they are just rarer. There are a lot less of them percentage wise than there are English. The second reason is the variety. Every bank in Scotland has a design, whereas in England, only the Bank of England designs and releases the note. Which means that for an English cashier, anyone could pass off a fake Scottish note, or an out of date one, and they wouldn't be any the wiser. When I was working in Carlisle, where there was a lot of people coming down or through from Scotland, it took me well over a year to get used to them and understand all of them, and it was my job. Throw in the occasional northern Irish note, and you go to bed with a headache!

It would be a lot easier if there was a single printed currency, but that would take away the individuality of the other countries in the United Kingdom, and in my opinion, that isn't right. I'd also like to take this moment to say that I love the Scottish! I go up there whenever I ahve the opportunity, it's a beautiful land, and the people are as decent as you'll meet anywhere.

Oh, and I respect the language thing, and I hope it goes well. Anti-country sentiment is ridiculous to me. Where you are born is a coincidence of birth, something you have zero control over. Hating someone for where they are from is stupid, and I enjoy knocking peoples head together when I hear them doing it!

Cheers for giving me a decnet response man, and not getting arsey with my potentially hostile-sounding message earlier

Firstly regarding currency I do see where you are coming from with the rarity and variety but I feel this quote from earlier sums up my opinion on the matter.

In regard to currency I work in a supermarket in Scotland (currently anyway) and we are expected to accept Scottish, English and northern Irish bank notes, there are a handful of checks we perform at the till and that's it. Confusion is no excuse for going against something that exists in the acts of union.

I agree more or less entirely with you on the single currency point.

My opinion on England? For the most part its a nice place I agree with the anti-country sentiment thing right enough, it is a nonsense, and the people there are people just like you find anywhere else.

(I follow the "people are people no matter where you are and people are mostly ignorant" theory when it comes to mankind in general. I include myself in that, but I know I'm mostly ignorant and knowing is half the battle)

As for a decent response, that's why I come to the escapist. Its the most civilised place in this mess we call the internet I have ever encountered.

 

[SuccessAndBiscuts]

I think that's more hazardous stupidity than prejudice. But yes, because my girlfriend is Scottish I occasionally get mocked by them for my pronunciation.

I want you to think about that for a second: Scottish people, mocking an English person, for their pronunciation of English words. It's as stupid as it sounds.
EDIT:

Well, other than the occasional "English bastard", "Go home", and violence which used to be directed towards me, no. It's not always pleasant sounding English in Scotland.

It appears I've been partially ninja'd.

Yea disregard the years of anti-Scottish prejudice to the extent of trying to drive out the native language and it does seem a bit stupid.

Yes there is prejudice in Scotland towards the English but I would argue you get off relatively lightly compared to a Scot south of the border, at least we honour your currency.

Yes but that's the thing: I'm an 18 year old guy who's been born into the 21st century...I haven't done anything to any group of people. And the people I'm talking about here are around the age of 16. Politics comes nowhere into it.

And I'm a 20 year old guy, I haven't done anything to any group of people. But I get abuse south of the border because of my accent. Two sides, same coin.

I'm not 100% that you're getting my point there. You spoke about 'the years of anti-Scottish prejudice' but I myself and the people concerned with this aren't in the right kind of time for it to be a politically based thing.

Yea I kinda bypassed that but what you have to understand is that it still works both ways, I couldn't blame anyone for what their ancestors did but it did happen and there is a resentment of that that exists outside of politics or even any real understanding.

My 10 year old brother was happy that England got knocked out of the world cup but couldn't put together any real reason why when I asked him, it was simply because his friends, family and their/our friends/family felt the same way. Its an ingrained mindset right or wrong and it exists on both sides.

No, very true. It kind of becomes a 'that's just the way it is' kind of mindset, doesn't it.

You know, my girlfriend and her friends are the same. She had to explain that she has nothing against the English and doesn't care that I am. Her only reasoning was 'I'm Scottish, it's genetic'.

Yep and it works both ways unfortunately, "We hate them cause they hate us." It does annoy me more than a little.

Just found this video with a random Google looking for something else. I know nothing of this comedian, guess I know what I will be looking up tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2N2enWkrPc

 

[Pegghead]

Well people tell me that I have an American accent despite the fact that I was born, raised and currently living in Australia. I've heard many a joke about cheeseburgers, had to say words like Peter and seagull many a time and even been called things like Americ*nt and fatass American (Which is funny because I'm neither).

 

[SturmDolch]

If it interests you, my prejudice against the Swiss is a different kind...

I think you've all been too neautral for TOO LONG. You're trying to avert attention, because you're PLANNING SOMETHING

ADMIT IT, SWITZERLAND IS BUILDING THE BOMB!!!!

*Cough*

I'll give you one hint. Those mountains are pretty big... Imagine what you could hide inside if you hollowed them out.

 

[Withall]

I pointed the problem out: "Ignorance". Most people (the majority) don't know enough to make a sound judgement. That is the root of all problems, in my mind. How do we solve this issue?

Education, and by revising old data. That way, we can have a higher quality of life (provided we can attain it with moderate ease).

In my mind, the minorities wants to change the way of life that satisfies *their* needs, and forcing the majority to go out their way to make *them* happy, while not considering the "bigger picture".

I keep repeating that what I post is my "gut feeling", or "in my mind", or "I believe/I think". I make no effort in making it sound like fact.
Just because my opinion doesn't rub anyone the right way. I appreciate anyone who calls me out "Oi! this is bullshit!" or "Oi! this is a good point!", since it helps me realize what I need to consider.

Speaking of things to consider: How do you improve your understanding of things? You learn about something.

I'm NO WAY NEAR a "real" rolemodel for that, since these topics require not only reading
facts, but also ALOT OF OPINIONS on both sides, and ALL the fence-sitters.

So, to answer your hypothetical question.

No, I don't prefer an ignorant majority. But it is the "duty" of the minorities to make people aware of their issues IN A CONTEXT THAT MAKES SENSE TO ANY IN THE MAJORITY.
Not through demonstrations, parades or the like. They only serve to make the minorities out what I believe the majorities view them as: whiny show-offs who would do anything to get attention.

 

[capin Rob]

Have you ever been exposed to prejudice? Why?
For some reason, every time I'm in America people keep asking me if I'm a nazi. Just because I'm German.

Wow, that makes me want to climb a tower and pick off people who look stupid, God I hate this country's people.

 

[Spinozaad]

No. Although foreigners do tend to ask bullshit like: "OMG, YOU DO DRUGS? YOU GOT SOME WEED WITH YOU?" or "DO YOU LIVE IN A WINDMILL?"

 

[Johanthemonster666]

I've been called a ****** (by my own mother no less). This was a response to me coming out as gay. I never did anything and was always a well-behaved kid/teen growing up.. so she had no place to talk to me as if I had betrayed her or committed a crime by just being honest.

Strangly my orientation doesn't put anyone that I meet off EVER(not that it's anyone's business anyway unless they ask me), my mother was the only one who freaked out (still gets dramatic now, but doesn't really care overall). There was one incident that was rather borderline homophobic when I asked a guy(friend of my Bf) a simple question; I wanted to know what sort of exercises he did and how often he want to the gym(because I wanted to start doing that again, but had no idea where to begin). He calmy told me what his routine was and I looked up on the web how to do it and I was stoked to be getting into a healthy routine again.

This jerk then went to my boyfriend and told him I had hit on him -_-. My Bf knew he was lying and brushed it off thankfully. Gay guys get a lot of this kind of discrimination (major actions of homophobia and small doses of bigotry over simple things...as if we're a different species or something.)

I'm not sure why being a Gay,Lesbian and Bisexual individual makes you some sort of sex crazed maniac no matter what century it is. It's probably the only global prejudice that I know of that isn't really founded on anything but the assumption that we're somehow radically different then any other human beings. Only western countries seem to offer legitimate equal rights and civil protection for people like myself... but even in the US right-wing polticians think it's their sworn duty to make sure I have no liberties other than ones they permit(which would be few).

 

[legion431]

I'm Australian. And apparently people think we're racist[I'm not].

 

[Arcanite Ripper]

Throughout years, i've been subjected to being called "fat".

Why? Because I am fat.

Sorry, i'll be serious. Prejudice is an ugly thing sure, though an indisputible concern unless genuine hatred is involved. Segregation of people and personalites is just a copeing mechanism to keep what's comfortable together; Prejudice is self-rightous criticism to, in their minds, keep their social "standing" above another to help cope with their own lives by condescending remarks usually inflicting some sort of controversy mark. By it's own, it's harmless.

Criticism, as some defend, can be a powerful force of "good" however. If creditable "bad" remarks of another are distributed, a step-back realization might show your newly-found pathway to solve this dilemma:
-You both have odds, why not help each other to improve? A flower and sunshine world would have this strategy absolute, though no one can argue a combined force is more appreciable and strengthed then a sole one.
-If not, we'll fight to the end until a clear winner is resolved. Maybe irrational hatred is backed up, maybe resources are tight. Now it's beyond prejudice.

I somewhat doubt that just straight-faced insults affecting a weak point would be enough to start a conflict though. Maybe just the regard of insults, regardless of what's he saying, only to treat you in such a way is enough, but it shouldn't be. You both know what you can do with each other and what's at stake in a conflict; It's always up to you on what you make of it.


Anyway, i'm getting off track. TL;DR: Prejudice (or insults in general, I guess) is nothing to shake at. If you have a war, there's bigger problems then mudslinging.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Of course it counts if they make fun of your extremely embarassing size. Prejudice is not just about race.

Nah, it's not as if it's held against me to make me feel like a lesser person. We make fun of everyone in our group for something minor about them, it's all in good humour and we all know that.